I like it and I like how it feels😛

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You really think those two extra sets makes it ineffective and qualifies it as “dumb shit”?💀get a grip bro. Using it properly has nothing to do with your lack of patience

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“Hogging the equipment” how long do you think two sets takes? Maximum of two minutes between a set, 8 reps takes what? 20-25 seconds? You really turning red over an extra 5 minutes?

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😭if it takes you that long to catch your breath, do a bit more cardio. If you’re really bugging out over someone being on a piece of equipment for 10-15 minutes, you’re better off training with meditation than weights

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Anonymous #3 30w

Bro needs a full 8 hours of sleep in between each set

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Small? Nah. I think I’m somewhere around 210 atm. Something tells me you’re in your mid-late 20’s, sitting around 230 and workout in sets of 3-4 reps then huff and puff staring at people who dare be in the gym at the same time as you

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Anonymous #3 30w

If that tiny window matters so much to you, why don’t you go up and ask to work in? Any gym bro would be happy to let you in

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Out of curiosity then, how long do you spend on a piece of equipment? Better not be more than 10 minutes. And if it takes you 3+ minutes to rest between sets, you’re looking at 2 sets max before you’re no longer being courteous

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Sooo your entire argument is that since you rest a full minute longer than I do, your workouts are clearly more intense and that has to be the answer, no possibility that someone else could recover faster than you or have more endurance?

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Anonymous #3 30w

Gosh those 60 seconds seem really important, I need to rework my entire perspective of working out

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No shit, that’s why you adjust working weight, so you can maintain intensity even as your strength wanes.

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You really load the bar with one weight, do 2-3 sets and call it a day😐boy, that and your short temper really makes your life sound fun

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I think you’re confusing growth with strength. If you’re focused on strength, by all means keep doing what you’re doing. I’d rather go for hypertrophy

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AthleanX right here “reducing weight to stay in the 6-8 reps range is killing your gains”

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If you can do 4 sets of a weight and stay within 6-8 reps, it’s you who isn’t going intense enough

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Again, strength-dominant strategy, congratulations 👏

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There’s no doubt they go hand in hand for the most part but the different builds of bodybuilders versus powerlifters begs to differ in the long run

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Aside from the powerfatties, i think you’d notice that the majority of powerlifters are at a normal or even lean body fat percentage but a generally lower amount of muscle mass compared to bodybuilders

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Anonymous #3 30w

Recruiting stronger muscle fibers instead of increasing the amount of muscle mass

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Ah yes, like for example Tom Platz, famous for… barbell squatting and also some of the greatest legs in bodybuilding

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Anonymous #3 30w

You might also consider the difference in ranges of motion, prioritizing time under tension versus full range of motion

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Do you really think that steroids are anything other than an enhancement of the functions applied by the body or that to be in the top 0.1% of anything you’d have to be both genetically gifted and also effective your training?

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Bi-weekly, not per monthly, while no I don’t believe that’s quite optimal, I also don’t believe that’s the regimen he followed the majority of his career. Protein synthesis, endurance, etc, are all things we already do, and are enhanced by performance ENHANCING drugs

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How long have you been working out? Did your methods stay the exact same from start to finish or have they changed over time? If you really think that he trained the exact same way for his entire career, you’re full of shit

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Anonymous #3 30w

And if your method stayed the exact same, the exact same exercise over and over, you know what kind of training you’re doing? The exact same kind as the strategy you outlined for powerlifters

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If you can’t go two weeks of not working out without hemorrhaging muscle mass, something’s not functioning right

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But you could absolutely compare his training to other people in the NBA, or make an argument that a skill like jumping, while already clearly having a gift for it, jumps better because of a specialized way of training.

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Anonymous #3 30w

He jumps high as shit, doesn’t mean he has the biggest calves in the world

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Anonymous #3 30w

Because there’s a difference between training for performance and training for muscle mass

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Yes, if that’s really the only thing you can reply back, calves are indeed not the sole muscle used to jump

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So things like resistance bands to train speed and recruit fast-twitch muscle fibers for explosive power over raw controlled power is, as you say, dogshit

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Dawg I’m so bored of arguing, just post a pic along with how long you’ve been training and natty status and I’ll shut up

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Anonymous #3 30w

If this stuff is your entire life’s focus and you count every single calorie and follow super strict diet, and make everything ultra scientific, that’s amazing. At the end of the day my entire reasoning for doing 6 sets was because I like how it feels. I workout because it’s fun, not because I want to make sure I get every drop of productivity out of my sets

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😭we’re right back to square one about the value of your 10 minute machine time versus my 15 minutes

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Anonymous #3 30w

All that education just to go right back to “I’m too impatient to let other people use machines”

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😭😭😭dawg if I was sitting on my phone for 10 minutes between sets, I’d agree with you, but I’m using the equipment properly and for an amount of time (and you can try to inflate it as much as you want with percentage statistics) 5 minutes longer than you are, you can debate effectiveness if you want but when your complaint in the first place was courtesy, your entire argument is down the shitter

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Anonymous #3 30w

If you scroll up, it was actually you who began the effectiveness debate

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Basic math yes, but relativity is important. You keep using percentages to refer to time because saying I use a machine for 50% more time than you do sounds like so much more than 5 minutes

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Anonymous #3 30w

A person could say “I increased my lateral raise pr by 50% in two weeks” but it was from 10lbs to 15lbs

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Anonymous #3 30w

Sure, absolutely massive gains from that point of view, but it’s not a continuous trend

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Anonymous #3 30w

If someone used a machine for 50% longer than I did, they’d be on it for 22.5minutes compared to my 15. Someone uses that machine for 50% longer than the previous user? 34minutes. Your argument uses unrealistic scaling to make the difference between us seem more pronounced than it actually is

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Anonymous #3 30w

At the end of the day you’re comparing 10 minutes to 15 minutes and claiming moral high ground because of it

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😭dawg you’re trifling over 9 minutes. That’s 540 whole seconds, incredibly huge amount of time. Please forgive me🙏the error of my ways is so blatantly obvious now.

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Fucking around❌ doing the exact same exercise you do✅ 5-9min big deal?❌ could work in if so desperate✅ employed✅ Also in school✅ could try another exercise/machine✅

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Sounds very cope to me

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Bro is training for strength

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Anonymous #3 30w

I would be pleasantly surprised if I had benched 315 within my 3 years of working out

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Lmaooo 5’9 he’s a shorty

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Anonymous #3 30w

Something about leverage, less distance traveled, less total force needed, etc

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Could also compare starting points in age, strength, and weight

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Absolutely, if I had the same amount of muscle mass proportional to my frame and the same levers, It’d be much more equal

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Anonymous #3 30w

And yes, two plates is well within my abilities

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65 working or max, for math purposes

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That’s the comparison you wanted to make, I have more potential because of my larger frame, your said that the leverage argument evens out because of that, which is under the assumption that we would both have the same amount of muscle mass relative to our frames. Keep up

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And you remember bringing up genetic potential with Platz yes? We do both agree that genetics can give people an advantage in every conceivable form?

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You understand the difference between 185 on a 5’9 frame and 185 on a 6’2 frame yes?

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If you wanted to train for strength, sure.

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Anonymous #3 30w

But comparing bodies, I have a higher height to weight ratio

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Really? How interesting. I’m sure 500 calories puts much more weight on a 6’2 frame than a 5’9 frame. Makes perfect sense

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… you aren’t bigger than me😂, it’s just that 185lbs looks bigger on a small frame than on a big one

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Anonymous #3 30w

40lb cat vs 40lb dog

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Anonymous #3 30w

Different frames, different appearances

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Yes Green Bean Giant, we’ve clarified you can bench more

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Anonymous #3 30w

So uh, when’s the physique reveal

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I’m just as big as I thought I was, and I’ve known my entire life that I’m below average strength compared to people my age

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😂tik tok science, every argument I’ve made, you counter then fall into later on, like claiming genetically gifted people like LeBron can train suboptimaly and still perform well, then later say you’re more genetically gifted than me, or for all the education you have, ignore the idea of proportionality when it comes to things like mass, adding mass, frame, strength, and even time😂

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Anonymous #3 30w

After reading your comments something tells me you don't even look like you've been lifting for the 3 years you've been in the gym

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Anonymous #3 30w

how the FUCK did this argument go on for so long

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