
A few counterpoints: ever seen a construction worker vs a body builder? That absolutely is a thing as less showy but more practical muscles. There is such a thing as training past failure, it just involves a spotter helping. Stabilizer muscles absolutely are a thing, they’re more minute and help keep the right path of the weight during a lift.
also toning absolutely exists, the definition of it is lowering bfp and increasing muscle, it just can go by other names as well (it’s essentially body recomp) and is often used with the wrong definition or by people who use that as a term to describe their goals because they don’t want to get “bulky” or some bs. basically the word has been a bit corrupted
Let me be more specific. Yes, bodybuilders are stronger than workers in almost every metric, I just meant the workers are stronger at what THEY do even tho they don’t look like it. By support muscles I meant you use muscles around the target area (like shoulders during chest press) that if are proportionally weaker than the target area will lead to poor form and potential injury due to lack of stability side to side.
Yes, the hamstrings stabilize in a squat, the back helps stabilize in presses, etc. When people say “stabilizer muscles”, it’s usually something along the lines of “machines aren’t functional because they don’t train stabilizer muscles”. What they actually should be referring to is just the coordination involved in free weight lifts