Anonymous #1 4w

Wanna elaborate then? I’m happy to have a conversation about this.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Making a statement without backing it up with good reasoning is foolhardy.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Agreed, I’ll provide my reasoning too. The intent of a bulk is to provide the body with the necessary energy to create muscle tissue, and to fuel workouts. Well, adipose tissue (bodyfat) is just our body’s method of storing energy, and we derive any additional energy needs from this. For that reason, as long as you have excess adipose tissue to convert into energy, then a calorie surplus will not lead to any more muscle growth than eating at maintenance, or even a very slight deficit

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Anonymous OP 4w

I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. Eating in a calorie surplus(bulking) will always be better for gaining muscle. The two most important things in a diet for muscle growth is carbs and protein. During an intense workout your body uses more carbs eaten as fuel not body fat and protein helps build muscle. That is why people bulk for more of these 2. It’s a lot harder to get enough carbs and protein eating less or normal maintenance

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Anonymous OP 4w

Obviously no one should be aggressively dirty bulking unless they are lean though😭

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Anonymous #3 4w

I disagree. You should not have any issues getting enough protein at maintenance (0.73 grams per pound is the most that is going to contribute to muscle protein synthesis) and while yes you do need to maximize glycogen to fuel your workouts most optimally, glycogen stores max sooner than you would think, and you can absolutely maximize glycogen storage at maintenance, or even at a slight deficit. My sources are my degree in exercise science, my 8+ years as a personal trainer, and my 440 bench

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I literally said that you could bulk if you were lean in my post, which those guys are. A little bit of reading guys, come on

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No actual biology in your argument, just “you’re wrong” average gym conversation with a meathead.

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are you natty?

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Damn, impressive. I’m still right tho, this is entry level physiology

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Because the 2.2 figure is based on studies from the 90s and nothing in the past 15 years has found a benefit above 0.73

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Anonymous OP 4w

This can obviously vary slightly tho, for example, if you’re morbidly obese

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and don’t get me started on the hypertrophic rep range bullshit lmao

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Lmao all good. Obv bulking is needed eventually because you need energy to convert into matter to get bigger. You just don’t need it if you’re not like, 12% bf, which is most people who are bulking and getting fat for no reason

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“4-6 for bulky empty muscle, 8-12 to tone the muscle, and if you do 7 reps you’ll explode

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Anonymous OP 4w

Someone who is 140lbs needs about 100 grams of protein and 280 grams of carbs. That’s already about 1500 calories right there and sugars and fats add more calories to those foods. Add in drinks or snacks someone consumes in their daily lives it adds up. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it would be difficult without a strict and specific diet. It’s easier, sustainable and more convenient to just eat in a calorie surplus of 300-500. Especially as a college student

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Anonymous #3 4w

I was a college student too, and I never had issues doing it on a strict budget. It comes down to who wants it more

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Anonymous OP 4w

Like I said it not impossible but it also isn’t convenient. Not everyone has the time and convenience for it. I was on a high protein diet last semester and it was very rough doing that on a dinning hall meal plan and I had much better progress on a calorie surplus. Done right both will give the same results of muscle growth but a calorie surplus is just more convenient and easier to sustain. Much easier to mess up a strict diet than a calorie surplus

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Anonymous #5 4w

Powerlifting is a different case than bodybuilding, because aesthetics aren’t your main priority. I’m making this post from the perspective of someone who cares purely about putting on a lot of muscle and being lean. Also, extra body fat is nice for a powerlifter due to the leverage advantages it gives you.

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