
solidly yes they've changed a ton over the decades and their visual presentation was never the most explicitly "gothic" out of their contemporaries, but albums like Faith and especially Pornography are definitively part of the canon of goth music, and those were released way back in the early 80s towards the start of the subculture's inception
What are the big five? I didn’t really know anyone around me who liked goth music growing up. So whenever I talk about music, I can list a few bands I listen to religiously and people know what I’m talking about, but then they’ll bring up a band name that I have never heard of, and their music is gas