
To #1: Restricting abortion access also hurts women who are pregnant and want their babies. So many women have died because they had complications and doctors werenât allowed to give them the proper care because of laws. Other women are being forced to carry their dead babies (they also wanted) for weeks because of these laws. Even though the mother and the doctor both know the pregnancy is not viable and the mother will miscarriage. This puts women at risk of going septic and dying.
those men voted to take bodily autonomy away from women. their interest is in protecting the country and their own interests, not women. i honestly canât even believe you used cops as an example of good men. do more research into how often they sexually assault women they take into custody and the terrible record of following up on completed rape kits. if more cops were actually invested in protecting women, once again, violence against us wouldnât be nearly as common as it is
i donât think he does tho! bc as soon as u brought it up the convo went from being all about consequences to âohh umm i just want to save lives!â like he clearly knows accepting risk doesnât mean medical care is automatically denied. he just refuses to admit his logic makes no sense
yes. and engaging in risky behavior has bo medical precedent for being denied treatment. why should that change when a woman no longer wants to be pregnant? thereâs also no medical precedent for forcing someone to use their body/organs/blood to sustain another life, even when their actions are directly responsible for the situation. a driver could hit a kid and be told all it would take would be a drop of blood to save their life, and that driver STILL wouldnât be forced to use their body
then you better stop eating and drinking because you could choke, and in YOUR perfect world, no one would be able to save you because you weighed the risks and chose to do it anyway. a pregnant woman could be driving to the hospital for a checkup, get into a crash, and because she weighed the risks of getting into a car, she should be left to die. if someone attacked you you shouldnât be offered any help because you weighed the risk of walking outside. thatâs the world you want? really?
thatâs different from not having any options to deal with the consequences of that risk tho. everyone already weighs the risk of everything - i did it with this convo! i risked that you wouldnât actually listen to anything i said and i was right. but im not being forced to continue this convo, even though i originally agreed to it. if i get bored or decide i want to do something else, i have the option to do that. accepting risk â no options
it literally does though. if i get into a car crash and break my arm, im treated for that injury. no one shrugs and goes âwell treating you would be avoiding the consequence of your crash! enjoy having a broken arm forever!â just like a woman shouldnât be forced to have her body go through all the changes of pregnancy and birth, which are much MUCH worse than a broken arm
adoption is an alternative for parenting, not pregnancy. no one forces an individual with a broken arm to keep it broken for nine months to teach them a lesson. âyou got pregnant when you didnât want to be, the consequence is an expensive and often painful medical procedureâ not âyou will be forced to give your body up for 9 months, risking permanent disability and deathâ
yeah. thatâs my point. an abortion also takes time to recover from. but if you injured your spine, even if it was 100% preventable and 100% your fault, no one is forcing you to deal with that injury for longer than you have to, and no one is forcing you to risk even greater injury because you âneed to be taught a lessonâ. which is a really gross way to look at pregnancy and birth and says a LOT about your views on women
Hey so.. youâre obviously an ignoramus, just wanted to make that clear first - you need to know take a real honest look at reality from an objective perspective and drop your defense for men - you are not responsible for defending men , real men are the heroâs that see how dangerous it is to be a woman. I read all ur comments and I think you are a dangerous idiot and sadly there are so many men like you . I weep for the women in your life and pray you find truth and compassion one day.
the issue is that a lot of men don't conceptualize SA as evil and are taught from a young age that women are objects and they don't realize the long term negative impact that even sexual harassment causes women. you should research some studies, there's a ton out there about the amount of college age men who have self admittedly committed SA or do would do it if there would be no consequences for it
literally millions of women have had the same exact experiences and have spoken on it and you are STILL coming up in here trying to make a blanket statement for people you donât even know. this post contains so much nuance that you will never understand without having been on the receiving end of some of this behavior. you cannot see it because you have never lived it
this post is not a blanket statement on men because there is in fact a very large scale of men who have had misogynistic influences in one way or another because society is inherently misogynistic, and that manifests in a myriad of ways. there is NO way that 50% of men are just âgood and kind and will always step in when someone is in needâ
Youâre literally just on here crying bc you feel called out by this chart. If the shoe doesnât fit youâre not Cinderella. But I think that the shoe does fit since youâre invading a women only space, are mansplaining our lived experiences to us, and are refusing to admit youâre wrong. Also letâs not talk about how clouded my head is little guy. You thought your bullshit comparison was equal to mine. We all know where you fall on this graph buddy no need to get so worked up