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Idk why my comment was downvoted (not saying it was you). I live in an extremely queer friendly city. Like i belong to 3 different lesbian wrestling groups. We have sapphic art markets sponsored by the city. Theres a pride flag in every block. Its like at least as gay as seattle if not more

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Anonymous #3 11w

Why "should" i? Its natural and really has nothing to do with hygiene

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Anonymous OP 11w

it is a hygiene thing actually.. even with washing well when it's too long it holds more odor and bacteria

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Anonymous OP 11w

and even for men being completely unkempt isn't a style choice they can get away with without some comments either

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Anonymous #3 11w

It literally isnt. There are so many sources from womens health resources saying how bush protects the vulva and vagina from pathogens. I get way smellier if all the sweat has nowhere to be evaporated too. Not to mention i get zero ingrowns or irritation there anymore. What works for you works for you but youre perpetuating misinfo as a way to shame women for not conforming to male beauty standards

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Anonymous OP 11w

i literally never even said shave it, which is the beauty standard, and i never said only women should be maintaining their hair in those places, men should be too

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Anonymous #3 11w

I am maintaining it by making sure its clean and moisturized. Again like why "should" people have to trim their natural hair? Is it gross to you personally and if so how does that affect me?

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Anonymous OP 11w

i mean i can't deny that it smells every time i see someone who lets it overgrow man or woman. that's not a personal opinion. but yeah i do think as a general rule when you look unkempt people will give you looks.

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Anonymous #3 11w

No way you can smell other peoples bushes out and about unless theyre really not clean. And again im not unkempt. I wash and moisturize and use deodorant and all that. No gay women ive ever met have ever had a problem with it either, most in fact rlly like it. I am personally very proud of my body hair and it makes me feel hot. Why enforce your beauty standards on others who dont even have overlapping attraction to you?

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Literally. Just cuz its not your personal preference does not mean everyone should be obligated to align to it or else deserve judgement. If my happy trail offends you then thats honestly your problem

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Anonymous OP 11w

you were complaining you got looks, that's why

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Anonymous OP 11w

also i'm literally bi 😭 and even with men would no be okay with completely untouched body hair. it gets far longer and thicker than it needs to be

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Anonymous OP 11w

i literally have no issue with body hair, but just like head hair and facial hair it's basic hygiene to keep it neat

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Anonymous #3 11w

I know why i get looks, its misogyny. Its okay that you personally have a preference for your type but youre turning your bias onto others to justify your shitty opinions. It implies a denial of body autonomy for respectability politics and that gender nonconformity is deserving of scorn. Just cuz youre bi or apply that on men too doesnt mean its not rooted in misogyny.

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Anonymous #3 11w

Girly its ok to change your opinion if its changed but the og comment is literally about body hair

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Anonymous OP 11w

my opinion didn't change. body hair is fine i never said shave it. but like all other hair it should be kept neat which includes trimming it when it's overgrown

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Anonymous OP 11w

i mean i'm not denying anyone body autonomy feel free to not maintain your hair not shower not brush ur teeth no one's stopping you

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Anonymous #3 11w

I do keep it neat, i dont see it as overgrown i see it as perfect."overgrown" is an opinion and highly subjective. Youre applying your personal taste to how you think other people should live their lives

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Anonymous OP 11w

and applying it to men quite literally makes it not an issue with women's body hair specifically 😭 no one is suggesting we force every woman to shave bare

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Anonymous OP 11w

if it's interfering with your clothing and visible when ur arms are down yeah it's overgrown

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Anonymous #3 11w

and if it's tangling and holding odor and shit

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Anonymous #3 11w

Dawg thats why i said imply. The misogyny aspect is an implicit belief embedded in the broader sentiment. When you use words like "should" and "unkempt" and "hygiene" and "overgrown" you make the implication that theres smth inherently wrong about body hair despite it being natural. Where do those beliefs come from in our society?

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Anonymous OP 11w

hygiene absolutely applies to both men and women. though men are absolutely not held to as high of standards, they should be. people can tell when you care for yourself

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Anonymous #4 11w

Aw im sorry :( ur not gross babes but i get it, its a lot harder to unlearn it for yourself than it is for others

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Anonymous #3 11w

Youre misunderstanding what i mean i think. In no way am i saying that hygiene doesnt apply to men and women. Im saying there is bias to associating hygiene to body hair and that youre also applying that bias to men. And for the taking care of oneself thing, my luscious body hair is representative of how i take care of myself. Youre being very narrow minded about what self care means

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Anonymous OP 11w

luscious body hair 😭😭

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Anonymous OP 11w

and a biased applied equally to everyone wouldn't be a bias? hold men to higher standards, not women to lower ones, it's the 21st century

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Anonymous #3 11w

Thats not how bias works. You are biased against having natural body hair vs not, just because there is no gender distinction does not mean that there is no bias. You making it about "standards" illustrates that clearly

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Anonymous OP 11w

who are you to say how bias works 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #3 11w

Wdym? Not to appeal to authority but ive done partnerships with the uc berkeley othering and belonging institute. I am aware of how systems of bias develop and perpetuate themselves

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Anonymous OP 11w

and yet don't know that holding two groups to the same standard isn't discrimination?

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Anonymous #3 11w

Be so fr are you trolling? You are holding a bias favoring hegemonic beauty standards which are rooted in misogyny and assuming that this is the way ppl "should" be. Applying that to all genders does not change that fact, you can apply misogyny to men as well, thats how patriarchy works.

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Anonymous OP 11w

bro ur acting like im talking about some eugenics shit 😭 i'm not even saying shave it just trim it and thin it and touch it up i genuinely can't believe im arguing abt discrimination over basic hygiene

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Anonymous #3 11w

Im rlly not that pressed over it, remember when i said implicit? I dont think youre discriminating against me im just saying your bias sucks and youre applying your personal opinion to how other people should act. I dont want it to be thin, i get a lot of gender euphoria from my bush and happy trail and leg hair and whatnot, thats why im on testosterone. Being on t is my way of grooming it, but for me that means enhancing it.

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Anonymous OP 11w

what on earth

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Anonymous OP 11w

alllright man

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Anonymous #3 11w

This shit is exactly what im talking about with my post. It doesnt concern you what does it matter. This shit is common for lesbians and we dont judge eachother like ur doing

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