Anonymous #1 1w

what part do you need clarification on

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Anonymous #3 1w

this is not the defense you think it is oh my god :(

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Anonymous OP 1w

What is humiliating about it?

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Anonymous #1 1w

pregnancy in general, birth, losing your identity, being the primary caregiver bc of gender roles and expectations, sleep deprivation, not being in control of your body, negative impact to your career… there’s probs more i’m missing but that’s everything off the top of my head

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Anonymous OP 1w

Most of what u listed isn’t humiliation its either physical difficulty or societal pressure. Pregnancy and motherhood don’t automatically strip identity or power, that depends on the situation, support, and choices

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Anonymous #1 1w

if that’s what you believe that’s okay. for me i think when i have the choice to NOT go through that, choosing it anyway is humiliating

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Anonymous #3 1w

not for everybody

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Anonymous #7 1w

no pregnancy itself is the humiliation to me. i don’t view it as biological magic or powerful. i see what it does to women and it is very very rarely anything positive

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Anonymous OP 1w

Being pregnant is considered being temporary disabled, do you consider being disabled humiliation?

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Anonymous #7 1w

can you show me anywhere that says that bc i just looked it up and nowhere does it say that pregnancy itself is a disability. to answer your question though, no. why does it both you so much that I PERSONALLY find pregnancy humiliating?

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Anonymous OP 1w

It doesn’t bother me, I’m just wondering where this is coming from. Like you said it’s clearly not because of how society depicts it - it’s the biological change itself. Why?

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Anonymous #7 1w

(I am not deleting this)

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Anonymous #7 1w

ohh okay maybe you misunderstood. i think both aspects are humiliating. i know i don’t want kids and i don’t want to be pregnant and i personally think choosing to go through that anyway would be humiliating

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Anonymous #7 1w

thank you for sharing this! this was closer to my understanding of it too, that pregnancy isn’t inherently disabling

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Anonymous #7 1w

…no one asked you to delete it?

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Anonymous OP 1w

But why? That doesn’t answer the question, what about the biological change is humiliating

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Anonymous OP 1w

I meant I’m not deleting it just to repost it in the correct comment

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Anonymous #7 1w

the fact that i chose to no longer have control over my own body. the fact that i would have to chose to put my life at risk for something that i don’t want and would add no value to my life. also the fact that women are societally viewed as less important than the fetus throughout the pregnancy + the invisible labor of motherhood + the sacrifices needed to be a good mother than fathers rarely if ever have to considered

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Anonymous OP 1w

*choose oops lol

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Anonymous OP 1w

Makes s sense, but can you at least see how viewing other women’s choice to become pregnant as “humiliating” is also bad? Unlike you they want to power through the challenges, socially, physically and mentally. In Spartan culture they were considered warriors because pregnancy is a trail of strength and courage. Instead of honouring the ones who want to see it through, you’re giving the impression that they are lesser for making that choice.

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Anonymous #7 1w

sure. i can also look at how pregnancy actually impacts women and i can see that the majority of the time, regardless of how it’s framed, it negatively impacts their life. i can see how it can be personally powerful but im just looking at the reality of it and i find very very few positives for women in having a child

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Anonymous OP 1w

Haha I meant no hate just speaking from my experience! But I agree it’s not for everybody! I was just speaking from my own experience that’s all! If you don’t want children don’t have them!

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Anonymous #3 1w

no dw i didn’t view it as hate, i just think it’s sad that you agreed it’s a humiliation ritual. im sorry you had to go through that :(

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Anonymous #9 1w

that’s awesome. i’m glad you feel that way. i don’t.

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Anonymous OP 1w

yeah, pregnancy is a humiliation ritual unless you actually want a child. becoming a parent willingly and finding purpose in that is a beautiful thing… but I would feel terrified and depressed if it ever happened to me. that’s why choice is so important.

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Anonymous #10 1w

i definitely agree that choice is super super important. no arguments with that. i just don’t personally think wanting a child changes the reality of pregnancy and motherhood.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I just didn’t see it as humiliation ritual! Sure parts of it are certainly unpleasant and dangerous but as are other things. It was something I was willing to undergo knowing the risks and how it would change me and I’m glad I did it. But I do agree like I said not everyone should be parents and if someone doesn’t want to put themselves through it that’s a totally valid choice!

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Anonymous #3 1w

did i misinterpret where you said it felt like that in your original comment? i’m not sure how else to read when you said at times it can be

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Anonymous OP 1w

Sorry I realize now how that may have came off as confusing! There’s times where in my opinion sure it’s uncomfortable and you make feel a little humiliated, but many other things in life we willingly subject ourselves to also do that. So if someone understands that and accepts it then that’s their choice and I hope they’re happy with it. But if they don’t accept that that’s also fine and a cold decision! It’s just up to everyone to make an informed decision before having children!

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’re right, it doesn’t

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Anonymous #9 1w

yeah that’s not at all what makes it humiliating

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Anonymous #11 1w

❤️❤️❤️

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Anonymous #11 1w

what makes it humiliating then?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Im not even gonna lie the way ur replying back to people is in such a bitchy tone, #3 is literally being nice and your replies are so weird. Its giving projection in a way. Please heal yourself, no one is shoving that u should have a baby down your throat. It genuinely isnt cute being rude for absolutely no reason

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Anonymous #10 1w

You worded this perfectly, the way op is going about this is truly just sounding like shes shaming other women that are willing to put their comfort aside for a child. You absolutely SHOULD put your child before yourself? Any mother who is choosing to keep their child shouldn’t just go and start smoking pot and be irresponsible. Im sorry you are so affected by societal views to the point where you feel like you have to throw shade at women. Yall type of females are an ick

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Anonymous #1 1w

I don’t think she’s a bitch. And if she was being bitchy, I think she has every right. She comes here and says pregnancy feels humiliation ritual. And then everyone here like you goes nu-uh it doesn’t and you’re wrong for having that opinion. It shouldn’t feel like a humiliation for you’re dumb for feeling that way. Maybe consider doing the thing you just said you don’t wanna do and then you’ll get over it. These are repeatedly stupid fucking takes of “just don’t feel that way”

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Anonymous #12 1w

No the problem isnt that, if you want to have an opinion go ahead and have it, i literally even agree, part of what she said is textbook factual, pregnancy does come with alot. My problem here is how shes replying, im not just gonna sit here and read a thread of a girl just being straight up rude to a really nice girl. Like ew.

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Anonymous #1 1w

They’ve handled it civilly by themselves. If you don’t want to sit here and read the thread, then don’t.

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Anonymous #12 1w

And thats you, if u want to witness someone being rude to another person whos being nice do that. Im not tho ❓lmfao

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