thank you for proving my point

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let’s talk about the moids that donated $300,000,000 to a rapist and child predator

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Anonymous #3 8w

Moids, really? That’s how creative you are? You take a term made by men and use it for yourself.

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Anonymous #2 8w

calm down snowflake

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You're an incel and a disappointment to the human race. People like you who perpetuate the cycle of hate shouldn't call themselves men.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Well I don’t kill my kids and don’t support those that do, so actually I’m a step above modern women.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Also, I’m married with kids so Incel doesn’t apply, but you probably don’t even know what Incel is short for.

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Anonymous #2 8w

Have you ever talked to a real woman about this? I've heard views from many of the women I know and it's a much more nuanced topic than what your for you page is leading you to believe. Of course her murder of her kids is a tragedy and there is no excuse, all women I've talked to about it agree. But also, Lindsay Clancey constantly reached out for help from her husband and doctors about her mental state and they did not offer her the help she needed. This was very preventable.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Nothing is ever black and white. Do I think Lindsay Clancey should be held accountable for what she did? Yes. But also professional help and support for women struggling mentally should be much more available and normalized. If her husband wasn't a deadbeat and doctors listened to her this could have been prevented, but because of the way we systematically treat women and their health that sadly wasn't the case.

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Anonymous #4 8w

which is why we need feminism

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you don’t seriously think just because something is written on paper that it’s enforced correctly in real life, do you?

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we’ve already reached that point where? there are so many countries where feminism is still needed. until all women are free, none of us are

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and it’s always so interesting to me that people get more upset when feminists or women want to be superior to men, but no one bats an eye when men are constantly wanting to be superior to women. it’s just crazy how misandry seems to upset people more than misogyny, when misogyny is a much more serious issue that has literally contributed to violence and women being killed

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Anonymous #6 8w

Well it’s much harder to have concrete evidence and proof when you refuse to accept what is written. So the goal post is being moved, which, if we take any of the women online that are “feminists” while being clear misandrists, it changes how feminism is represented

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brother we have not reached that point 😭😭 the wage gap still exists. our rights to abortion and birth control are being threatened and taken away from us. medical gaslighting disproportionately affects women, especially women of color. like op said, just because on paper it says we are created equal, doesn’t mean there’s not systematic and individual discrepancies

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as long as there’s a cultural problem where women are looked down upon, mistreatment is normalized and excused, and double standards are normal, then no we have not achieved the goal of feminism yet. our society cannot be truly egalitarian when these issues are still endemic

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Anonymous #1 8w

i agree but it doesn't help when some (fake?) feminists attack other women for doing these things. i've seen them tell other women they can't be feminist or even call them misogynistic for dressing modestly, dating men, or identifying with a religion. policing other women like that is ironically misogynistic itself and just makes them feel excluded/marginalized, so it makes sense why some of them say that. that type of behavior needs to be called out more

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Anonymous #10 8w

I think you’re talking about vibe feminists (people who agree and connect with the general principles of feminism without informing themselves on the topic)

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Anonymous #12 8w

what the actual fuck is white feminism😹

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Anonymous #9 8w

You are stupid af. Women are not a homogeneous group. White women care more about upholding white supremacist systems that benefit them than standing in solidarity with marginalised women. Dismantling patriarchy is intertwined with dismantling white supremacy. Women’s rights means all women not just white women. If it’s revolving around only white women, it’s white feminism.

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Sure buddy😂. Victim card activated

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This 9th grade mindset is something you’ll outgrow eventually dw.

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white feminism is an actual thing, the fact that your knee-jerk reaction was to treat the concept like it’s ridiculous then call it “racism” is very telling. vibe feminists are actually insufferable because y’all pretend to be “educated” without actually educating yourselves.

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also your other comments got deleted, so I kind of doubt you’re a feminist, or even a woman 💀

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Anonymous #13 8w

I swear. How do they call themselves feminists and not acknowledge that the intersectionality is very important or that not all women experience power dynamics the same way depending on their religion , race , etc.

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Anonymous #18 8w

claims they have “beliefs that are fundamentally against women” and then doesn’t elaborate 💀

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Anonymous #13 7w

what comments got deleted and holy shit i promise it was an innocent question i genuinely didn’t know what it meant. making all these assumptions about me and for what i’m on your side now that it’s explained to me i don’t support that shit

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Anonymous #13 7w

these were my only two comments left under the post so idk wtf you’re talking about lmao

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Anonymous #12 7w

no i understand now please disregard my previous comment it was ignorant as fuck of me. i don’t believe white women are oppressed and i had a totally different definition of it in my head. thx for knocking some sense into me i need to do more research before i say shit

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they never said white women shouldn’t be apart of the feminist movement but it makes sense dismantling the patriarchy as a whole which is the true definition of feminism includes also dismantling white supremacy. we’re not victims just bc we’re white

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that’s crazy to say when misogynistic laws are still in place and black people are being found hung from trees in masses without proper investigation

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Anonymous #13 7w

no deadass i’m assuming they’re a terf

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i’m not talking about one person there are several cases. i saw a reel that mentioned at least 10. you cannot convince me every one of these cases are perpetrated by black people. what about that black guy who was killed by his white friend group or the black baby that was shot by the officer👀

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not even just black people if nobody were oppressed anymore why are women in red states dying bc hospitals won’t remove their dead fetuses from their wombs

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oh noooo sahel, egypt! how dare you drop me somewhere i can sip on iced coffee while i tan in a bikini and make tiktoks by the beach 😓

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Anonymous #13 7w

yeah they literally act like they're an authority on feminism. i hate how they've turned against choice feminism after using its ideology for years, just so they can police other women. i always thought the argument against choice feminism was that you should think deeper on why you make the choices you make, not that you just shouldn’t make choices for yourself anymore. they’re no different from men trying to police us. both groups infantilize other women

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there is no law that bans women from wearing a bikini at the beach, per the egypt senate tourism committee. yes, resorts are allowed to set their own rules, but the government has literally stated bikinis are legal

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all egyptian women. get out of my face

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but they're all being forced to wear niqab right? i highly doubt you can name more than 5 muslim countries, nvm name all the regions in the world where islam is a majority. you have no idea what the muslim world is actually like outside of fox news. you're just an orientalist. imperialism hurt the middle east so much but people like you love to ignore it so you can pretend to be saviors

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bro thinks social media doesn’t equate to real life whatsoever. where do you think those people get their sources from to make that content?😭

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but nonetheless it isn’t a competition to see how many more black people are killed by white people or vise versa. that’s missing the point entirely. i hardly doubt anyone is killing a white person solely bc of their race like come on. white people aren’t oppressed as a RACE

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Anonymous #9 7w

ok genuinely thank you for apologizing and trying to improve

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Anonymous #9 7w

you commented before this, you can’t be #9 and have your first comments be responses to #12, since she commented after. regardless, I got you mixed up with #5, so apologies for that

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this is blatant misinformation, strict Sharia law doesn’t exist for foreigners anywhere except for Afghanistan lmao

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wage gap data considers women & men in the same job & the same position & still find women are paid less. you’re a man in GT and are just making up shit to piss people off. goddamn troll

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Anonymous #10 7w

Dude literally. Indonesia is the largest Muslim population and they are not forced to wear it. Malaysia doesn’t force it. India has the third largest Muslim population ( even though it’s not a Muslim majority country) and in fact there are laws now passed in some states to remove the hijab. A lot of central Asian countries like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan don’t force it. Muslims are not a monolith and they are from different countries and have different power dynamics in their countries

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Anonymous #12 7w

There are literally two countries that legally make it compulsory to wear it and that is Iran and Afghanistan and you’re allowed to criticise these regimes. And they both are theocracies. There are also a lot of religious fundamentalist countries that have literally genocided minorities like Myanmar , and Sri Lanka ( both Buddhist ) and India is a Hindu nationalist country harassing Muslims and Christians on a daily basis but I bet they won’t talk about it because they’re not Muslim majority.

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Anonymous #9 7w

Lmao that’s alright. You probably just misunderstood what I was saying. Sry

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Anonymous #13 7w

when i said “isn’t that just racism” i was talking about white women being racist towards others but i completely understand why you two assumed i meant the other way around. i had never even heard of white feminism lmao

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Anonymous #13 7w

and it’s not improving it was just my poor word choice and a fatal misunderstanding lmao

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Anonymous #12 7w

exactly. they always talk about the same few countries and make it out like they’re the entire muslim world while ignoring the other 90% of the muslim population. even then, iran, afghanistan, and the lesser sensationalized ones like somalia and yemen looked completely different 50 years ago. almost like neo-imperialism is common denominator 🤔

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Anonymous #12 7w

the propoganda machine is so bad that i don’t believe most people even know that central asia, a large portion of southeast asia, and part of the balkans are muslim. then they homogenize the middle east and north africa as if what happened in a couple war-torn countries taken over by paramilitaries is normal everywhere. i’m so sick of their orientalist beliefs being normalized

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Anonymous #10 7w

Tyy fr😭😭it’s so annoying

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Anonymous #10 7w

literally google it… bikinis are allowed at areas where tourists would usually be but are heavily criticized at local beaches.

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Anonymous #10 7w

I don’t watch Fox News. I’m liberal. And yes I can actually name all Islamic majority nations. Since you already mentioned the ones in Central Asia, I’ll state some others: Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, Algeria, Bosnia, and Albania are a few in the Mediterranean area. How much do you know about the Islamic world? Have you read the Islamic holy texts that justify murder rape and subjugation of women? I also never even mentioned anything about governments forcing women to wear anything. 💔💔

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Anonymous #10 7w

The Islamic world is BUILT on colonization. Egypt used to be a Christian majority country but isn’t anymore due to genocide. Same for Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and some of Lebanon. Iran had its own separate religion before the Islamic takeover.

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Anonymous #5 7w

literally what far right bs are yall getting your information from? the caliphates never genocided christians, that’s literally against islamic law. they did have to pay jizya tax, but muslims also had to pay tax through zakat. egypt was polytheist before christianity, but that doesn’t mean christians came and genocided them. people converted to islam over the centuries, just like people converted to christianity. and christians are considered people of the book in islam.

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Saudi Arabia is VERY close to the Mediterranean, therefor it’s in the AREA. This is the second time you’ve fabricated a different meaning of what I really said in your head. Your “prophet” literally marries a 9 year old and rapes her. This is indisputable. Your “prophet” also married like 12 other women. Just because it’s said in writing a few times that women can do this or that doesn’t mean it actually applied. Many parts of the Quran state women are properties of men.

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Anonymous #5 7w

(reposted) saudi arabia is a part of the arabian peninsula, not the mediterranean. and yes i have read the texts. there is no justification for what you're talking about. murder is the second greatest sin, rape is the highest form of sexual sin, and women are explicitly given the right to divorce, own property, and manage their own finances. i highly doubt you even know what tafsir is, you likely just rely on sensationalized

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Anonymous #5 7w

and you literally did lie earlier that egypt has a ban on wearing bikinis. now that i’ve updated you on the actual law, you’re taking back what you said. you’re an orientalist, not a liberal. you’re the type of person to ignore all the terrible things the west and europe have done, and ignore how people have abused christianity to justify oppressing others. this country once had breeding farms for enslaved women. imagine if i applied your logic to america

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Anonymous #5 7w

and no, saudi arabia is considered a peninsular country, not a mediterranean country. you need to border the mediterranean to be considered part of it. aisha was not 9 literal years from birth and this has been debunked countless times. please refer to her sister’s age and the battle of badr (had to be 15 to attend) to find her actual calculated age. women are not property of men, men and women are equal under God according to the same text you’re slandering

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Anonymous #5 7w

and notice how you listed a bunch of fake genocides above? since you mentioned bosnia, you know what was real? the genocide bosniak muslims faced. it barely gets talked about. had it happened the other way around, people like you would've called it a christian genocide and made muslims out to be a threat to humanity. but because muslims were being killed, you all minimize it and never try to theologize it the way you would've if it was flipped

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