Anonymous #1 11w

they’re gay*

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Anonymous #2 11w

dude get out of this feed

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Anonymous #2 11w

so crazy how it’s always crickets about the actual person sowing division and all the criticism does to the person calling out bad behavior

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Anonymous #2 11w

Why’s it up to women to be nice to misogynists in the name of ally ship when 90% of gay men help perpetuate misogyny pls gtfo

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Anonymous OP 11w

deadass!! so annoying that men blame WOMEN for misogyny

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Anonymous #2 11w

They hate you because you’re right

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Anonymous #5 11w

No it’s actually bc they’re putting the responsibility of being allies on women instead of criticizing gay men for being misogynistic

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Anonymous OP 11w

How about we all try to be better???????? Hello??

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Anonymous #5 11w

That’s a point u can make on any other post but this one

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Anonymous OP 11w

Ok whatever man

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Anonymous #5 11w

Actually not even whatever. It’s a point that should be made on this post. You’re literally giving the same energy as “every woman who enjoys any queer romance is fetishizing gay men” discourse. Like yeah it’s an issue but you don’t need to essentialize based on a couple of rage bait posts from people you don’t even really know are gay. You saying that shit isn’t gonna make anything better. You aren’t even making an interesting point. Youre just reacting emotionally

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Anonymous #5 11w

I’m not giving that at all, actually. Ur annoying ❤️

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Anonymous #9 11w

I don’t think anyone believes gay men should be allowed in women’s bathrooms 😭

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Anonymous #8 11w

I’m not I’m just tired of everyone pretending that gay men are our allies when 90% of them are misogynistic.

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Anonymous #10 11w

sooooo many people do and i have personally been made uncomfortable by gay men in our bathrooms😭

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Anonymous #9 11w

I hate the whole “girls and gays” thing bc why do women have to open our spaces to men just bc they’re gay like 😭😭😭 yet gay men will complain when women go into gay bars

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Anonymous OP 11w

exactly!!!

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Anonymous #9 11w

that’s not a wider community issue, if you asked the average queer person they’d say that’s weird as fuck 😭 I’m sorry that happened to you tho

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Anonymous OP 11w

gay men shouldn’t be going into women’s spaces, and cishet women shouldn’t be going to gay bars to get away from straight men, having spaces for minorities is important in both cases

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Anonymous OP 11w

That’s probably not because they’re gay. It’s probably because they’re men!

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Anonymous #8 11w

I get why you read this post as saying “they’re misogynistic because they’re gay & this is an issue with their community” because I read it that way at first, too. but that wasn’t OP’s intent, she’s saying exactly what you’re saying: gay men are still men, so we shouldn’t think they’re feminists just bc they’re gay

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Anonymous #10 11w

No, you got me wrong. I just think gay people are annoying and suck for multiple reasons completely unrelated to the original post as well.. and i personally dislike most groups of people for different reasons and some more than others… gays wouldn’t be as high on my list if they weren’t so annoying

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Anonymous #7 11w

the way I wasn’t talking to your bigoted ass

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Anonymous #7 11w

Don’t speak as if ur me. This post was not intended to be homophobic. Ur a loser

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Don’t report me cus u gals are too emotional 🥹

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Anonymous #7 11w

calling us emotional when you’re invading a woman’s space to share your little feelings bc you’re butthurt that no one gaf about you lmao

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Im literally a woman saying gay men have cons what r U talking about

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Anonymous OP 11w

It's not up to women to be nice to misogynists, it's not appropriate to say "gay man are not our allies" as a broad categorical statement.

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Anonymous #3 11w

I'm not blaming women for misogyny. You didn't read my comment

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Anonymous OP 11w

Also, 90% of gay men help perpetuate misogyny isn't an argument. You're helping perpetuate homophobia, I don't then throw away the allyship between marginalized communities because some individual is being unhelpful, or they are helping perpetuate homophobia. It's the responsibility of everyone to not throw away allyship for the actions of individuals.

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Anonymous OP 11w

You're just lying dog, you pulled that stat straight out of your ass

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Anonymous #7 11w

men are too emotional i can’t 😭

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Anonymous #4 11w

Perpetuating the sowing of division by generalizing an entire category of people because of some chud on the internet is what's bad. It's actually not a good call out saying "GAY MEN ARE NOT OUR ALLIES"

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Anonymous #11 11w

yeah it’s just men in general

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Anonymous #11 11w

the gold star gays and gold star lesbians are both incredibly male-centered it’s so annoying

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Anonymous OP 11w

wow. this is a homophobic generalization based in no fact. what if I said 90% of women help perpetuate homophobia… pls be more introspective

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Anonymous #1 11w

Racist as well. There’s a huge problem with it in the gay men community. And before any man comes to comment, yes we know it’s not ALL of them so F off.

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Anonymous #9 11w

100% genuine question, but how do you guys feel about transwomen that haven’t gone through years of hormone replacement therapy being in women’s bathrooms. Does this make a difference?

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Anonymous #10 11w

Nah I j love making u guys so angry and it works almost everytime 😘

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Anonymous #7 11w

Agreed! It’s fun to piss people off on here

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Anonymous #16 11w

personally i think trans ppl should have their own spaces. the fact of the matter is because they’re trans they’re in their own category. did you know that in several states if you’re incarcerated, you just need to identify as another gender and they’ll place you in that facility without prior hormone therapy or gender affirming surgery. so a full on bearded man could quite possibly lie and claim to be trans just to be placed in women spaces. now guess what happens then.

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Anonymous #17 11w

Trueee, own spaces seem like they would make the most sense Idk anything about gender identity and incarceration though. Is there not more that goes into officially declaring an identity when being imprisoned? I feel like I would’ve heard more about how this was problematic if full on men were lying just to rape women

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Anonymous #16 11w

well rape is a thing that happens regardless in both prisons regardless of the sex and i doubt you’d hear about it for a variety of reasons just like how it’s not common to hear about the nonsexual systemic abuse and mistreatment that goes on in prisons. for one, they’re locked up with guards that can make their lives hell, two formal complaints within the system are often rejected, three prisons are typically built in rural areas to separate inmates from society

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Anonymous #17 11w

4 theres societal stigma that inmates deserve to be treated harshly and ultimately the majority doesn’t care, i’ve often heard many ppl joke about “dropping the soap” and prison rape

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Anonymous #17 11w

also proving abuse in prison requires meeting difficult legal standards like proving deliberate indifference by the jail staff or whatever which is hard to document when you’re literally behind bars and none of the jail staff would vouch for you, and no jury would take prisoners words for truth

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Anonymous #17 11w

atp it’s just normalized, for the sake of the innocent people in prison and those that did lesser crimes and still have to muck it with genuinely evil people, i don’t think it should be. i had to write a research paper on it a couple years back for a class and my topic was centered on how trans ppl should have their own spaces for not only their safety but others. a man could lie and get into women spaces but what about trans men who go to male prisons and get assaulted

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Anonymous #17 11w

it defo still could happen in women prisons bc ofc there’s a much wider systemic issue, but my stance was and still is a girl wouldn’t be able to get a trans man pregnant and vice versa, which is why i supported trans spaces in my paper. sorry for the long winded response

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Anonymous #17 11w

Nooo, I appreciated it. This is the kinda stuff I don’t really think about often but still seems interesting when people can talk about it calmly. I’ll probably look into this on my own time now The trans man example was good, but I think it gets harder when you try to figure out how trans women should be handled in prison. It seems like you run the risk of abuse no matter where you put them just due to the nature of prisons and some of the people who are imprisoned 😕

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Anonymous #16 11w

it defo is tricky, even if they had their own space there’s still a risk in terms of prison facilities, but idk. it really baffles me though bc i’ve heard from some trans ppl that they don’t want their own spaces and they just want to go to the space they transitioned to bc that’s how they identify and then some of the ones i’ve spoken to said me wanting them to have their own spaces is discriminatory. but babes, you made a choice and i’m happy for you, but you can’t take that choice from others

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Anonymous #17 11w

there are people that will feel uncomfortable, but like having your own space will minimize it and will even normalize trans identities i feel like. plus genuinely if it’s discriminatory and you feel like you’re not being treated as an “equal” because of the idea of getting your own bathroom, locker room, prison facilities etc, then men and women shouldn’t have separate bathrooms and other facilities either either. but of course no one would go for that again for obvious reasons

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Anonymous #9 11w

I feel like if anything, gay men would WANT to be in the men’s restroom no?

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Anonymous #17 11w

most trans people use whatever bathroom they pass as since that’s what’s safest for them, I’ve never known anyone to actually go into a bathroom while not passing as that gender. it puts them at incredible risk for multiple reasons to do so

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Anonymous #17 11w

a gender-neutral bathroom would still be great for people who’re more androgynous or just need privacy. not just trans people would benefit from it; a trans-only bathroom, though, would be practically impossible to enforce or keep safe, and it might never get used in some places

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Anonymous #17 11w

and I agree that a trans/queer-only prison in ideal conditions may do good given the high amount of violence (sexual & otherwise) committed against trans people. that said, I’d never trust legislation to make that a thing since it could very well turn into another form of targeted abuse

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Anonymous #2 11w

Ur not a girl u don’t belong here

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Anonymous #23 11w

And no im not generalizing gay men before u say I am, its just in so many different spaces and communities ive seen it from gay men

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Anonymous #1 11w

they are just men who like men.

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Anonymous #10 11w

obviously this is in a perfect world, in reality no one’s really safe anywhere, there are even pedos who go into women’s restrooms after young girls 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #8 11w

cornball

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Anonymous #24 11w

Sorry which comment was too corny for you?

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Anonymous #17 11w

Ugh not this trans discourse again 🫩 do you know why trans people don’t want to just be in their own space? It’s because you’re invalidating their identity and telling them “go fuck yourself faker”. And the way you talk about men pretending to be women to assault them kinda grosses me out bc you’re really playing into the all trans women are predators thing

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Anonymous #26 11w

And gender neutral bathrooms have been all over Europe for a while and there isn’t this huge rape epidemic, I swear the conservative narratives rot some of your brains

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Anonymous #26 11w

never said that. i’m saying that the fact that there is room for a man to impersonate a trans woman solely to get into women spaces is inherently predatory and there’s really no way to fact check a persons identity. i think those creeps are dangerous not just to women but also trans women as others can twist this rhetoric negatively against them. also, inherently trans people ARE different than cis men and women. it’s not about being a faker, it’s about making sure people feel comfortable

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Anonymous #17 11w

No one is saying there’s no difference whatsoever. Can you understand why that would be invalidating to trans person tho?

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Anonymous #26 11w

To make them have their own space

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Anonymous #26 11w

forcing a seat at a table to validate decisions someone else made is the reason why a lot of ppl are anti trans. i’m not sure what politics and systems will have to go into place so that trans ppl and cis ppl can find a common ground and co-exist in peace, but i don’t believe saying “have at it and go into whatever space you identify as” is helpful. it can be dangerous to both parties. but that’s neither here nor they’re, ppl can do what they will but if you ask me, that’s my stance

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Anonymous OP 11w

Why do you say %90 of them are misogynistic? I admit my gay exposure isn’t a lot but that seems like a sweeping condemnation

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Anonymous #17 11w

there* whoops

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Anonymous #17 11w

A lot of people are anti trans because they’re cruel hateful people or they have fallen for the myth that every trans woman is a predator trying assault you. My issue with your stance is you’re just kind of saying to leave them behind and to go screw themselves and justifying ppl being anti trans. And the way you phrase being trans as just a “choice they made” and make validating their existence a chore is just kind of mean I think.

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Anonymous #26 11w

if that’s what you believe 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #17 11w

Does nothing I said matter to you? Do you care at all what their perspective is? I don’t expect you to completely agree with me but I hope you consider at least something I said

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Anonymous #17 11w

you realize that a rapist could just walk into the bathroom if trans people didn’t exist, right?

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Anonymous #26 11w

i don’t really see us having a productive conversation on political views on yikyak, so no, i don’t really care all that much. too much energy for such an unserious app

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Anonymous #26 11w

btw, im actually not even conservative 😭

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Anonymous #10 11w

Exactly that and believe me, I’m desperately trying to lookup cases where men lie about being a woman to assault someone and there’s maybe a few cases adjacent to this idea but there’s always more nuance to situation. Point is that I feel like so many people on here are convinced that there’s like a 50/50 chance that a trans person is lying and they’re raping people everywhere

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Anonymous #10 11w

did i not say before that my ideals were if we lived in a perfect world? i thought i went into detail about how ppl in general suck and we’re not safe anywhere

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Anonymous #17 11w

It’s a few sentences, it’s not that much energy. And this isn’t a big conversation I’m just suggesting you try and understand the trans perspective or as I now see it, hate them maybe a little less

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Anonymous #26 11w

okay i’m bored of this conversation now. and i don’t hate anyone wtf, the assumptions are crazy

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Anonymous #17 11w

It just comes out how you act and how you speak, but whatever, since you’re so above any moral critique I guess you should go. I was being pretty nice but you’re just like “what? I don’t give a fuck about any of this! Wdym I can’t put my ideas out and get responses?”

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Anonymous #26 11w

And then she deletes her comments, what a coward unwilling to hear any pushback whatsoever

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Anonymous #8 11w

Oh pleaseuuuhhhhh

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Anonymous #26 11w

she blocked me after I used basic common sense to point out how rapists dgaf about social rules when they’re going to assault someone 💀

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Anonymous #10 11w

It’s whatever, like it blows my mind that people become so insulted and angry when you give even the most milquetoast pushback to an opinion they put out. And she didn’t have to engage if she didn’t care so idk why she made such a big deal out of it

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Anonymous #26 11w

literally, she acts like she’s an expert when this has been discussed extensively for years by both professional sociologists & people actually in the community 😭 and it doesn’t take a genius to realize that separate spaces won’t stop rapists, idek how that’s a real argument 💀

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Anonymous #10 11w

I was being decently nice too until she was like “idgaf what ur saying lol”

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