Anonymous #2 8w

what assignments are you failing if you disagree? i’ve disagreed with a lot of my profs but ive done the research needed to actually present an argument and ive never failed an assignment because of that

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Anonymous #1 8w

My sociology class, the assignment was to explain why gender is a social construct and is a wide spectrum, there was no option to disagree or challenge it, to get the credit we had to agree and explain why. For my sake I didn’t attempt to challenge it to protect my GPA

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Anonymous #2 8w

some professors can be harsher, yes, but you shouldn’t be failing JUST because you disagree. but if your views don’t align with objectives being taught in these classes, that says more about you than them.

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Anonymous OP 8w

Well, I don’t believe that gender is necessarily a spectrum, I mean obviously people can be more masculine or feminine. But a lecture on non-binary individuals and other variations do not align with my beliefs

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Anonymous #2 8w

i mean… that’s just a fact. that’s like arguing the sky isn’t blue. gender IS a social construct - “man” and “woman” as social roles don’t exist in nature and were made up by humans

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Anonymous #1 8w

Non-binary is not a gender

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Anonymous #3 8w

every single christian university plus some that are in conservative areas

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Anonymous OP 8w

Christian and conservative are not exactly 1:1

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Anonymous #2 8w

okay? even if it wasn’t, that doesn’t change anything i said 😭

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Anonymous #1 8w

The lecture I had to base several assignments on was complete nonsense in the way it was taught. Yes gender is created by man, but apparently anything can be a gender if you want it to be was the center point. Basically the same as the TikTok or Instagram reels of “fairy-self” or “clown-self”

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Anonymous #2 8w

but it is. and you just proved the point that it is with your masculine and feminine comment 😭 sex and gender aren’t necessarily the same thing. sex is biological, and even then, intersex people exist. non-binary is recognized as a gender because those people don’t fall into tradition gender roles, which is the exact point of gender being a social construct. it’s like how only men used to be teachers, now it’s a female-dominated job. men used to wear high heels, now that’s a feminine thing.

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Anonymous #2 8w

They’re not forcing you to personally agree though, what’s being tested is your ability to make a valid argument. You can technically make a valid argument for any claim, even if the claim itself is something you don’t believe to be true.

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Anonymous #4 8w

this!!!

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Anonymous #2 8w

yes i know, but most conservative universities ARE christian.

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Anonymous #4 8w

See the assignments were not really to make an argument tho. It was to explain how and why the professor was correct and what it means. To be fair it was also a online course so a lot of assignments were to see if you even watched the recorded lecture videos Kinda listening comprehension activities

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Anonymous OP 8w

You have male and female, which truthfully boils down to genetics. Because yes uteruses are not for all women. Intersex people do exist. However the presence of 1+ Y chromosomes makes someone male and the presence of only x and no y makes an individual female. Intersex people have some sort of variation of that, but it’s kinda like arguing people can be born with no limbs, which yes but that means there was something wrong during development, it’s a disability. Klinefelter SYNDROME for example

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Anonymous #2 8w

You have masculine and feminine traits, which is definitely a spectrum but that’s not gender that’s personality, like I’d say I’m a Tom boy, but that doesn’t change my gender

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Anonymous #2 8w

People are free to behave or dress or act however they like, more masculine or feminine, which is back to gender roles, but again, there’s nothing wrong with a woman who wears overalls and is a trucker for a living (a traditionally male-dominated field and considered masculine by society) but she is still a woman

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Anonymous #2 8w

you’re right, there’s nothing wrong with that. but gender expression and gender identity is not the same thing 😭 plenty of gay men present more feminine but that doesn’t mean they’re a woman. that’s WHY it’s a spectrum because it’s different for everyone. you might have masculine traits and still be a woman but that doesn’t mean the same goes for everyone else.

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Anonymous #6 8w

Just curious which classes are you referring to, I’ve had similar experiences

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Anonymous OP 8w

The way my class was lectured they were pretty much identical

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Anonymous #2 8w

that’s interesting because that’s not how it’s been taught to me. maybe your professor just didn’t explain it well?

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Anonymous OP 8w

Probably, she wasn’t very confidant speaking in the lectures either, which again is why I don’t like these type of classes being taught in universities by professors without good understanding (even in my department some of the professors were kinda ignorant)

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Anonymous #2 8w

those are just neopronouns, which can be anything. I’m sorry if it was taught to you poorly, but “gender is a social construct” is considered fact in sociological circles—because it is a fact. it’s not an opinion nor an ideology, and it’s only political because people who’re uneducated on gender think they know better than professionals.

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Anonymous #2 8w

assigned sex at birth (ASAB) doesn’t have anything to do with genetics. they measure the length of your natal genitals and assume you align with one of two boxes based on that. sex is bimodal, not binary.

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Anonymous #7 8w

True which is why I particularly don’t like ASAB, because it’s an assumption. Many syndromes, while rare, do exist, and in that case yeah I’d agree gender could be a spectrum in that sense, but again it’s a condition. A syndrome where something went wrong during development, it’s not like eye color

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Anonymous #7 8w

also, gender ≠ sex. they are related because of how our society functions, but they are not one to one. gender has to do with how people perceive you, while sex is the sum of your sexual traits (which includes but is not defined by genetics. 99% of the US population has never been karyotyped, so sex is more defined by phenotypic expression)

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Anonymous #2 8w

depending on your definition of “intersex,” the intersex population may be as high as ~2%, which is one in fifty people. most people will have known an intersex person in their lives (again, depending on criteria)

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Anonymous #2 8w

frankly—as a trans person—I dislike classes like that in general, and dislike them even more when they’re taught by a shitty teacher. frankly, it makes sense to disagree with someone who can’t explain a complex topic that challenges views you’ve held your whole life 😭 it doesn’t mean it’s wrong, just that the teacher failed to convince you

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Anonymous #7 8w

dislike classes taught by shitty people, and dislike them more when it’s abt a complex topic like gender* tired so I’m not very articulate rn

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Anonymous #2 8w

You took a sociology class what were you expecting lol

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Anonymous #9 8w

Had no choice, university requirement

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Anonymous #11 8w

yup and i think that relates to what #8 said

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Anonymous #2 8w

I had to take women and sexuality, also prejudice and discrimination. The prej and discrim is really the one that harped the most on how women are disadvantaged by society.

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Anonymous #6 8w

Sorry, I meant I don’t agree that we are automatically screwed over by being born as women. I typed it wrong the first time

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Anonymous #6 8w

Certainly, we have the same rights as men, while we might face challenges with sexism and there may be hurdles to achieve goals, epically in career, we still have every right to get there

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Anonymous #5 8w

I swear to god they just hope they’ve finally found one conservative woman who just loves to have brightly colored hair and piercings 😭 it’s delusion

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Anonymous #2 8w

“Not exactly” implies that they still overlap nearly all the way ! :]

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Anonymous #6 8w

I’m honestly curious, why do you think that we AREN’T immediately put into a disadvantage? There are many sources to prove that women are more likely to be exposed to violence, poverty, unemployment and hardship more often, as well as being commonly dismissed in healthcare. I’d just like to know which part of that sounds like we aren’t being screwed over

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Anonymous #12 8w

legit. i feel like some people believe just bc we have rights legally doesn’t mean there aren’t still challenges

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Anonymous #16 8w

!!

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Anonymous #16 8w

So that’s just blatantly false but whatever

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Anonymous #13 6w

Didn’t tump say he loves uneducated people? Right, right…

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Anonymous #12 6w

Ur leaving out all the context and significantly misrepresenting what he said but that’s fine cuz ur clearly much more concerned about pushing propaganda than being correct

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Anonymous #13 6w

do you mind providing the context then? please give me the correct representation

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Anonymous #13 6w

because yes, I know I made a statement about all schools when this post was about liberal arts schools. But I feel like it’s very relevant- conservatives expect they’ll be supported and validated in academic spaces even though modern conservatism is inherently anti-intellectual. How is this not in context?

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