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Idgaf about the male loneliness epidemic. I became more “socially desirable” over the years as I lost weight and the way men treated me was like night and day. It’s like they finally viewed me as human. I carry A TON of resentment about how I was treated
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Anonymous 5w

Men will always judge based on looks and it’s gross. I’m a petite girly girl and guys always act like I’m a bitch or sexualize tf outta me. They’re lonely bc they don’t treat women like ppl at all

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Anonymous 5w

if you’re considered ugly you’re treated less than human and like you have no value, but if you’re considered pretty you’re viewed as an object of pleasure and amusement with no value outside of that. men will calculate how they treat you in order to get what they want from you but very rarely does that include genuine respect or interest

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Anonymous 5w

I used to be ugly but had a huge glow up and the way I got treated so much better by men was fucking unreal. Fuck em all

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Anonymous 5w

this is the first time in history women have been able to build a life for themselves without a man. now that we don’t need them to survive, the men are “lonely”

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Anonymous 5w

The "male loneliness epidemic" is just natural selection

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Anonymous 5w

Thinking about how I cut my hip length hair into a bob and men started being less nice to me the next day.

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Anonymous 5w

I’m bigger and I’m currently treated like trash by guys unless they’re looking to use me like an object. They need to be set straight.

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Anonymous 5w

ts is so real. i didn’t get any sort of positive male attention until i stopped dying my hair different colors and started to dress more in line with what’s considered “normal” or “trending.” i lost a ton of weight too.

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Anonymous 5w

I will also vehemently argue that the male loneliness epidemic is largely self-inflicted tbh 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous 5w

guys never talked to me in highschool cause of how i looked, flash forward two years and now they want to be all over me. i literally hut got piercings got a better haircut and dressing better. THATS IT

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Anonymous 5w

they treat each other like shit in other ways too

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Anonymous 5w

i would gaf about the male loneliness epidemic if it was about genuine male issues, like lack of mental health resources/representation or the pressure to be “masculine” and not show emotion or like the lack of deep male friendships. but instead it’s been made into a weird way to blame women for existing bc they hate women more than they care about other men

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Anonymous 5w

OMG YES and not just losing weight but like if u glow up too

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Anonymous 5w

The real difference between a MAN a BOY.

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Anonymous 5w

Same, I’m loosing weight now and the difference in how I’m treated now v before is crazy and i hate it so much

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Anonymous 5w

That’s why I don’t feel bad for how I treat men

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Anonymous 5w

men in a woman's forum tehehe

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Anonymous 5w

Had a glow up now I’m barely treated as human

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Anonymous 5w

I need to lose weight for my health but I’m actually scared to because I know I’ll be treated differently

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Anonymous 5w

yess. and that’s why i feel like people who used be “overweight” feel the need to be rude to like everyone. it’s just so frustrating that it took me losing weight to be treated like a human being

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Anonymous 5w

I remember getting my wisdom teeth out in high school, and since I only ate liquids for a while, I lost a ton of weight. My frontal lobe developed overnight when I noticed that males stopped treating me like ugly trash and started pursuing me. I was very flattered at first, but then realized quickly that they only wanted sex (or just a piece of arm candy). In either scenario I wasn’t treated like a real person with emotions and aspirations. I haven’t looked at them the same since

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Anonymous 5w

Dear men in this comment section: Congrats you’ve made us care LESS 🙄

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Anonymous 5w

the men who complain about the “male loneliness epidemic” are the ones who hate women 9/10. men who are actually lonely and have never been in a relationship and want to change it will actually do more to better themselves before looking for a relationship

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Anonymous 5w

the thing is they still don’t see you as human they just want smth out of you

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Anonymous 5w

i think what the men in the replies are failing to understand, is that the NUMEROUS personal experiences of women can’t be ignored just bc you say we’re crazy. blanket statements are a slippery slope, but when SO MANY women have the same experience, what else are we supposed to say? ignore what we experience CONSTANTLY just to make you feel a tad more comfortable?

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Anonymous 5w

i used to be skinny, and i had 4 guy best friends. over covid i gained 50ish pounds due to stress and a bunch of other things. they all dropped me once they saw me at school again. men stopped being nice to be in general. it was a big awakening for me.

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Anonymous 5w

I’m so sorry you were treated like that. That makes me upset not only as another woman but just as a human being. Who cares what we look like we’re all made of the same stuff. You are beautiful inside and out and don’t ever let anybody tell you different now or ever girl!!

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Anonymous 5w

this! positive male attention when i’ve lost weight and dress “normal”, but when im fat and alt a man LITERALLY called me a “jumbo lady” lol

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Anonymous 5w

Women judge men based on looks and weight too tho….

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Anonymous 5w

Trust you’re not getting viewed as a human now, to be desired is an objectification. To be ignored, is more respect, than being viewed as an object. Not because it was respectful they ignored you, but it’s more disrespectful to be harassed

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Anonymous 5w

I follow r/loseit on reddit (weight loss forum) and this isn’t uncommon. I’m sorry. I am trying to lose weight myself so I fear I’ll be in this position later if successful

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Anonymous 5w

we all do the exact same thing to men of average height(5’8”)

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Anonymous 5w

as a guy i can’t say ill flirt w someone who’s too overweight but i agree that they’re stupid for that. i might not personally be attracted romanticly to that body type but some of my best friends over the years have had a bit of fluff on them and so many guys don’t realize the value in having platonic relationships with a women for anything other than to try to date her

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Anonymous 5w

Acting like women don’t sexualize men just as much is crazy. Because we do. Stop the hypocrisy girls! 😍😍

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Anonymous 5w

This is like what 20% of woman goes through compare to what 80% of men goes through. Lol

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Anonymous 5w

There is no male loneliness epidemic. That’s what us women called it because the men we want don’t want us back cause of the way some of us act. Let’s not play the victim card every time. We have to grow up eventually.

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Anonymous 5w

Boo hoo

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

heavy on being petite!! i get sexualized like crazy, and aggressively too. i don’t get it

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Yes! I get sexualized for literally doing nothing and it’s so disgusting

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

preach if only the men's chorus would hear over their bellowing idiocy

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

online is the worst too. like the comments on my likes on hinge will be so… wrong

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

I haven’t done dating apps yet but I’m scared to. Like the men knowing my face and then being sexual is gonna piss me off even more

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

i don’t blame you, i’ve deleted that and other dating app multiple times bc of it

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

and then they pit women against each other because now the competition is for male attention when in reality it should always be about loving who you are and uplifting your fellow woman

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

fuckass bob = power so men are intimidated by you DUHHHHHH

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5w

same girl

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 5w

Yes and they realize women have certain qualities about them that they “miss”

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 5w

PLSSSSS THIS HAS ME CACKLING I NEVER THOUGHT ABT IT THIS WAY

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

CLOCK EM LAST SENTENCE YES

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 5w

Then they whine ab it like why nobody like me😭😭 I don’t like anyone but why don’t they like meee😭?

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 5w

That part! Omg

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

statements like this just tell us that you are uneducated and ignorant

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

This!!! I swear the day I dyed my hair back to brown I got way less dirty looks and men treat me more like a person than before

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 5w

it’s so stupid. like sorry im whimsical and experience joy and think i look cool with green hair 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

shut up

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

it’s not the same

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

the way no one said we don’t. men and women are guilty of such, but the conversation we are having now is men only treating women with respect when they find them desirable. if you’d like to have a conversation of women disrespecting men in such a way, start one. but don’t be in here causing shit just because you wanna act morally superior.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

What?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

They guys u wanted never spoke to, not just guys in general be honest.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

Go ahead and pack it up for me bud

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

excuse me?

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

acting like you knew about my high school experience lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

you seem upset because you aren’t attractive

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

You shut up

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Not upset just stating the facts

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

What facts. You didn’t say anything

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

that’s a “fact”? can you cite your sources

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Average men struggle more to get noticed and initiate relationships, while average women receive more attention and can be more selective in dating. Said what i said

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

you just admitted you’re unattractive

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

perhaps these stats are true because certain men tend to treat women with disrespect so said women are forced to be more selective with relationships for the sake of their own safety and well being. food for thought.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

That isn’t the issue. The issue is that we get sexualized bc men treat women like objects

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

Describe what unattractive men looks like and describe it in a woman please?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

If 80% of men is unattractive then i am unattractive then because i make up the 80%

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

attractiveness is irrelevant, this isn’t about what is or is not attractive. you made the argument that on average, women are more selective & men have difficulty starting relationships. that has nothing to do with what is or is not attractive.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

okay cool ugly now shut up

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

attractiveness is subjective and an extremely personal opinion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

and that blanket statement is WRONGG

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 5w

like i don’t like you because you immediately sexualize me for my appearance ?? make it make sense

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 5w

they’re so upset about it for what

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Described whats attractive to u?

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

it doesn’t matter because what’s attractive to me won’t be attractive to someone else. why do you care so much about it? that’s not the point of this post at all

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

OP is talking about how men don’t see women as humans until they are seen as conventionally attractive. it’s about mens actions. stop trying to make it about you whining

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

what blanket statement? the part where i said attractiveness is irrelevant in this convo, or the part where i said women are forced to be selective in todays world because of the way certain men are. because both those things are true & neither are blanket statements.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

i was referring to the statement #19 made about women treating men. i’m agreeing with you

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

my b, this thread gets confusing without usernames lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 5w

make me

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

No u state i was ugly so i wanna know whats attractive to u, i promise u gonna states what 80% of men doesn’t have. Which made my point clear

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 5w

Thats soo not true

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

Then they haven’t done much to prove it wrong

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

How is it not

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 5w

Y’all literally ignore most men texts, friend-zone them, lead them on, treat men like they are creeps because they don’t look a certain way something men can’t control by the way.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

We don’t do that. That’s usually a response to them being creeps

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

like no i don’t care that that girl said she doesn’t wanna have sex with you grow up

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Men have real issues and problems but they only bring them up when we’re talking about women’s issues

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Are we flirting right now?

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

This comment is exactly why I say this. Men weigh a lot of the male loneliness epidemic on lack of sexual attention from women but they constantly forget that *platonic* friendships also need to be built. That’s why people often believe women don’t struggle from this as much, because we don’t weigh our entire life’s happiness around if men find us attractive

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 5w

Because we bring them up y’all start to view us as weak, not wanted anymore

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

Why are you here? Leave.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

that’s not true dawg that’s what you’re told to believe about women

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

No woman actually thinks that. It’s men who tell each other that. Get out of this mindset. Any woman who actually wants to be with you wants to see that “weakness” because it’s real.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

i LOVE when my bf confides in me about his feelings because i love him and i want him to know he can feel safe in me and doesn’t need to keep in inside. but other men keep telling men they’ll be seen as weak if they reach out

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 5w

Also worth noting that men don’t really do a good job of building a supportive community around EACH OTHER. They’re often focused on the fact that women don’t pay them attention but also don’t wanna do the work in helping out other men

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Crazy that you’re so stuck in your own world and narrative that you can’t step back and hear someone else’s viewpoint with telling them to leave. It’s honestly disgusting and makes you seem like a horrible person. Hope you aren’t like this in real life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

when i see a video on social media of a man talking about his feelings, the majority of comments from women are lifting him up while its comments from men telling him to stop being a pussy. this is what we mean when we say the patriarchy hurts men too

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Idgaf. This is a safe space for women. Leave.

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 5w

And what proof do u have of this or are you just saying your opinion and calling it fact?

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

What TikTok have you been on. Lmk

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

if you’re actually a woman this a really embarrassing take

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 5w

Thank u very much 👏🏾

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

idk exactly what you mean by what tiktok have i been on, but im referring to the multiple tiktoks ive seen of men talking about being raped or sa’d

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

I can for sure say that. How can you reasonably complain about something like that knowing you do it just as much? This is why the world feels like that about us because we talk about everyone else but ourselves.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

It is literally common research consensus that male friendships don’t cultivate a very supportive environment for other men. You can’t chalk the entire problem up to “women won’t pay attention to me”

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 5w

Well it’s well known that males have more solid relationships with each other than women do with each other. Males will (usually) tell you the truth. We lie to each other even we both know the opposite is true.

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Anonymous 5w

Fym “today”? Are you also some sort of transphobic trash? God you’re insufferable

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

N who said that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

and what proof do you have of this? or are you just saying your opinion and calling fact?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

YES omg. they also see us petite girlies as easy targets. like get the fuck out of here

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i had to take multiple sociology classes as a gen ed requirement and in all of them there was a unit on female vs male friendships and it was established that there are less deep, emotional male friendships

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Do some research.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Women literally do the same majority of the time like what

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

https://scholarworks.uni.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3906&context=grp

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i’ve done lots of research :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Well that’s what the liberals fought for.😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

This made zero sense

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Not how that works

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 5w

That’s literally EXACTLY how it works. Liberals fought for the right for anyone to choose whenever they want to be anything they want but when people do it and it doesn’t fit your small minded narrative you get mad.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Dude fuck off. No one wants you here

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Who’s said they wanted you

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i want #1 here

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

That’s not how it works. It’s not just “I feel like intruding on a woman’s only space so I’m calling myself a woman today”. It’s something different in the brain that can’t just be ignored. Your ignorant bs is just genuinely sad.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

You are very rude and disrespectful

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

I love you too man ❤️❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

You’re breaking my heart 🥺🥺. Anywayyyys

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Sorry i understand its a women safe space but it should ok to be-able debate with the opposite sex. Im gonna create a group just for debates

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

It’s obvi okay to talk with the opposite sex but this is not the space. This is a space for women to vent and share their concerns and feelings.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

If only you knew how hard it is for a male to be intimidated by a female.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

wait i’ve been thinking about cutting my hip length hair into a bob but ive been scared…this might be the motivation i needed

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

How because it doesn’t agree with your opinions. Can you really not look outside yourself objectively. Is that really so hard?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Explain please.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

bc it’s incorrect lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Because you say it is.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 5w

I think it’s different which is what op is saying. Men tend to treat women like disposable objects in my experience. Like they can toy with us and dump us when they’ve done whatever is they wanted with us. Women do that too but not nearly as much.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

You’re delusional if you think that. Or you don’t get out much. We do it more and definitely worse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

friend zoning someone is not oppressive are you so serious? do you really only see women as sex objects to such an extent that you think a woman wanting to be your friend is disrespectful?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Again you talking about 20% of men, the 20% that 80% of women wants. If 80% of women wants me why would i not play around

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 5w

And how do u treat males.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 5w

there are really superficial women out there who will degrade a man for his looks and men deserve to be able to voice their complaints about this (on a different platform). but id argue it’s a different topic than what the male loneliness epidemic has been turned into

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Did you just call yourself out

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 5w

No

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

no bc it’s a recurring phenomenon that’s been studied and is beginning to be referenced in soc and psych classes. you love to call people out for not doing research but have you done any of your own? there’s multiple articles on the oversexualization of women

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

You said “we” Meaning you sexualize men I don’t treat men like sex objects that aren’t human. I’m not part of your we

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

don’t

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 5w

:(

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Ok so. Everybody body is oversexualized. It’s not just a women issue it’s a people’s issue. Let stop acting like this just belongs to us.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

it is primarily a women’s issue. everyone’s body can be oversexualized but it’s more common and more acceptable to oversexualize a woman

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Anonymous 5w

No I’m just able to look outside myself

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

if you’re actually worried about men being oversexualized that would be a really great thing to make your own post on on the men’s platform and a healthy way to vent

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Do you just get off on ragebaiting others? Cause that’s what I’m seeing from both you an 19. You have nothing to actually contribute to this convo other than “men good, woman bad”. Like when will you be done?

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Anonymous replying to -> prettyinblue 5w

Making me so pissed. Like I keep telling them to fuck off and they’re just like little kids being told no

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Exactly how they treat me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Oh there’s some men that are absolutely horrible atrocious people. And there are so some women who are also horrible atrocious people. However I’m able to see past the “women inherently good and soft, and men inherently evil and hard” narrative that is being pushed by people like you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 5w

That’s fair.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Are you done

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Are you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Not until you stop spouting your hateful bullshit

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

I could say the same for you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Lmao “no u” mf. Grow up lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 5w

Same

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

women aren’t inherently good and soft and men aren’t inherently evil and hard. the reason that women are more commonly sexualized and why it’s an issue is because it’s perpetuated and reinforced by societal standards. no one thinks men are inherently bad but it’s not realistic to say that these issues aren’t more aimed towards women because that’s what has been made socially acceptable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

In some cases yes. However there’s a massive underreporting problem on both sides that make it hard to back that up. I can see your point though.

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Anonymous 5w

girl i hope you’re joking rn

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Anonymous 5w

On a post talking about the oversexualizing of women you come and oversexualized men.😕

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

This is literally my point. RIGHT HERE. We CANNOT play the victim card with people like this out here.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i do agree that there’s an underreporting problem but if you’re actually interested in men’s vs women’s issues and aren’t just arguing to argue i’d strongly suggest taking even an intro to soc class or even a gender studies class if you have free time in your schedule. i can’t talk for all colleges but mine had separate units on male centered issues and women centered issues

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

it can really help to open your eyes to what the other side goes to

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Yeah im going into the social studies field trying to be a social worker for kids who ain’t got no one else.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

okay but tbf i’m like 90% sure #31 is trolling

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Anonymous 5w

catering your physical appearance to make yourself more attractive to men <<<<

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Anonymous 5w

My point exactly.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

We can’t move forward with problems if we’re still lessening one genders problem to elevate our own.

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Anonymous 5w

Well I don’t know the standards in Europe so I have no opinion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

this post isn’t about lessening men’s problems tho, it’s about how the “male loneliness epidemic” has been turned into a way to degrade women. i honestly think you’d find there’s a ton of feminists who are actually very for working towards men’s issues on top of working towards women’s, especially with things like mental health. the patriarchy hurts EVERYONE

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 5w

whos we?

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Anonymous 5w

they’re trolling, no one uses the term “looksmaxxing” unironically

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Anonymous 5w

As per my point unfortunately feminism has desolved into men-hating women and doesn’t even support black women for real.

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 5w

my bf is 5’4 and i wouldn’t change a thing about him. idk who “we” is

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

Everyone who is not you

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

#17 really thinks that men are the victims

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Anonymous 5w

Men AND women can be victims is my point which you would know if you had comprehension skills. If you think otherwise then you’re hating people for the same mindset YOU have. Look inside before you look outside.

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Anonymous 5w

Ladies this is why we get treated the way we do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Exactly

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i feel like this is a cyclical argument going on here, but if you’re actually going into social work i do hope you look more into articles on the social expectations of women, men’s issues and women’s issues, and intersectional feminism (bc i do agree there’s lots of issues with “white feminism”)

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

i think it’s a good thing for all social degrees to study and i think it might be able to help you better understand the actual motivations behind feminism movements

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Anonymous 5w

I personally don’t think it’s a problem. But have thick skin. It’s when it’s used as point against one genders problem when both genders so obviously do it.

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Anonymous 5w

Who put u in a league above anyone else? Y do u think your above anyone else?

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Anonymous 5w

American men are better than European men by far.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 5w

Still choosing the ones that treat yall like shit even though those aren’t the ones it affects

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Anonymous 5w

No y’all are not the most preferred, who told u this?

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Anonymous 5w

ewww a weirdo🤮

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Anonymous 5w

saying european and blonde women are the most preferred is so eurocentric and is giving racism. i hope you grow up and learn to accept everyone regardless of what they look like, and learn that physical beauty is subjective

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Anonymous 5w

I’ll stand for American men before foreigners

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Anonymous 5w

hes kind, ambitious, funny, smart, handsome, and treats me like a queen and we love each other so much but i should break up with him because hes short? you’re embarrassing yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

That view is more popular than you think.

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Anonymous 5w

right what a weirdo

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

i always feel like the odd one out w this bc everyone around has experiences getting cat called and stuff and i never really have. it makes me think im just unattractive and makes me feel insecure. idk i feel so weird about it. like i don’t wanna be catcalled or sexualized but i do bc it might make me feel pretty idk

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 5w

Don’t rely on men to validate your worthiness and attractiveness.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

No it’s not

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

I’m pretty sure it’s your narrative that’s small minded. Often people in your seat make this claims because of their own unwillingness to understand these concepts more than the surface level while being actively hostile to broadening their understanding. But I guess conservatives ARE fighting for everyone’s right to be uneducated and stay that way

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

I’m just saying, the only people who make these things partisan are the ones who benefit from dividing people

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Anonymous 5w

genuinely what do u get out of hating on someone supporting yall. idc if i get dv just be honest, why does hating on me make u happier

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

I can agree with that. But in my experience as a heavier set dude women tend to choose men that are like that over men like myself. Every man starts out decent I’m not going to lie but then we all just kind of stop caring bc caring usually gets us no where🤷‍♂️. But I agree men are pigs 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 5w

Nobody asked u bro why are you on a women’s forum? Why do men come into our safe spaces and get surprised we don’t like it??

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Anonymous 5w

didn’t even answer the damn question

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

i’m ngl i didn’t even see what i got on i got a notification for the post and didn’t read the group. acting like yik yak is a safe space is crazy tho

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Anonymous 5w

i’m sorry an american man hurt u

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 5w

Bro if you were truly supportive you wouldn’t be here trying to prove you’re the “exception”. Don’t be that guy that insists on inserting himself into women’s spaces because you feel like it. Why don’t you take your talking points to the dudes in your life, they’re the ones that really need it.

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Anonymous 5w

You don’t really sound like a good person tbh

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Anonymous replying to -> #37 5w

i wasn’t trying to show that i’m different i was just trying to show support till the other person attacked me outa nowhere. i didn’t even realize it was girl talk like i previously said and if yall hadn’t just insulted me like i personally wronged u i woulda js left

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Anonymous 5w

sigh. gotta love misandry

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Anonymous 5w

thank u. i’ll turn off notos

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 5w

Ok show support by staying out dumbass. 😭 I didn’t even insult you before I just pointed out ur not supposed to be here.

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Anonymous 5w

No chance y’all smell like cigarettes in Europe

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

there is literally no winning

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 5w

me too and i totally get what u mean. ur not weird for this i promise but we have to unlearn the false idea that male attention equates to how objectively beautiful we are. it’s easier said than done, and takes a while, but again i understand you and feel this way too ♥️

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 5w

the patriarchy and inherent misogyny is so deeply rooted in our society that it shapes the way we all think and act even towards other women because we’ve been trained since birth that the world revolves around men and their approval

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

that’s not the point of this post please just fuck off

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Anonymous 5w

all the men in this thread seem pretty defensive idk

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

maybe men shouldn’t treat women like shit. think about that?

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

do it!

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Anonymous 5w

Lmaoo look which country have the most miss world 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

I don’t think bigger men are treated any better

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Anonymous 5w

Im pretty sure america is number 1

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

It is no questions bout that

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

always

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

Imagine seeing domestic abuse and thinking it’s the victims fault

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 5w

DO IT

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

Well pick better people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

The fact that men truly unironically think not getting laid by any woman you talk to is oppression really shows the privilege yall live under holy shit. Start being a better friend to other men, it’s not the job of every girl you talk to to be your mommy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5w

WOW, everything u just said was false and wrought with stereotypes. You havent even met a tiny percent of the population of men yet you really got on here and said that shit. And the privilege that women have is legendary, only matched by racism. You want examples?

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Anonymous 5w

Sure we should. Don’t be surprised if they beat our asses. Girl power only goes so far and we fought for equality.

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Anonymous 5w

It’s honestly crazy to say that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #42 5w

stop making this about men

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

do you even know about the relationships two women can have with each other? it’s magical to befriend another woman

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

we literally live in a society created by men for men. but yeah women are the most privileged

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

I never said women couldn’t be friends but we tear each other down more than any man

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

explain the privilege part

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

I don’t and I don’t like men that do and think abusers should get their faces smashed. Abusive and manipulative men aren’t affected by this issue one cause they don’t really care and two because they circumvent it through their manipulation

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

doesn’t make you saying “pick better people” any better. you’re a dickhead

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

I know for a fact some people men and women actively pick people they know are shitty or have bright flashing red flags

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

okay and? what’s your point here?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

That it’s typically not the bad men that are affected by this issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

by what issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

the loneliness epidemic ? thats not an issue. its made up

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

“Loneliness epidemic” also I digress I was a dickhead in my original comment

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

No I’d say that there’s a lot of divide between both men and women rn and even within the genders

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 5w

that is not the male loneliness epidemic. why you stated is just a fact. the “male loneliness epidemic “ is men playing the victim because women aren’t centering their lives around men

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

why does it matter so much what i think is attractive

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

you just wanna know if i think you’re ugly too huh

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 5w

asking you to leave because this is not your space is not misandry. it’s asking politely

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i can reasonably complain about it because 1. two things can be true at once & 2. i dont disrespect people sheerly due to their looks. my point was that yes, SOME women do that. not all. just as i said CERTAIN men are pieces of shit. not all. nuance.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Lmaoo i already know where i stand, women and society already made it clear for me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

at least you’re self aware! no need to play the victim then

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

But i still need you to describe what’s attractive to you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

i’m not answering because it’s irrelevant

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

actually no. i like it when you beg

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Lmaooo its relevant keep getting played by the 10%

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

keep getting overlooked by women and the rest of society

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Thats fine more time to focus on my 3.7gpa and my clothing business.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

oh you’re so successful! congratulations!

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5w

u and i both 🫩

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Oooh don’t even get me started. I’m petite as well but I also look super young like nobody believes me when I say I’m 20. So I get sexualized all the time by pervy men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Um yes we do. Whether we admit it or not, most of us consciously if not subconsciously center ourselves around male opinion to the point where we fight each other. Just like males center themselves around other males opinions. It’s a natural part of life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

*loud incorrect buzzer*

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

i’m not one of most women then. and that’s not natural, it’s toxic to go to the extreme of fighting each other just because of men

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

so men center themselves around other men too? so men are always the center of all?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

Did I say that? Where did I say that? How are you able to twist others words around to fit your narrative like that? Yes males judge themselves based on other males. At least healthy ones do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

you implied it by saying women and men center themselves around men, therefore by that logic men are always at the center of everyone’s lives. healthy individuals do not base all of their self worth on men

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

YES MEN BASE THEMSELVES OFF OF OTHER MEN. ITS CALLED A PATRIARCHY. YOU THINK YOU’RE THE REASON THEY GET OUT OF BED. WHY DO YOU THINK WE’VE ONLY HAD MALE PRESIDENTS? QUIT BEING NAIVE AND GET SOME COMMON SENSE.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

Somebody is having some big feelings lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5w

“Average” men tend to still be picky with who they date/pursue tho. Looks is a much bigger factor for men when it comes to relationships than it is for women. Yes ofc women want attractive men but if they have good personality & treat you right, that makes them automatically attractive despite the physical looks. Hence why you see very beautiful women with “average” looking guys more than really attractive guys with “average” women🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

The patriarchy isn’t natural. It’s not “a natural part of life.” It’s socialization and the male loneliness epidemic is a reaction to it losing strength

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 5w

I’ve only ever heard men complain about the male loneliness epidemic.

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