
if you’re considered ugly you’re treated less than human and like you have no value, but if you’re considered pretty you’re viewed as an object of pleasure and amusement with no value outside of that. men will calculate how they treat you in order to get what they want from you but very rarely does that include genuine respect or interest
i would gaf about the male loneliness epidemic if it was about genuine male issues, like lack of mental health resources/representation or the pressure to be “masculine” and not show emotion or like the lack of deep male friendships. but instead it’s been made into a weird way to blame women for existing bc they hate women more than they care about other men
I remember getting my wisdom teeth out in high school, and since I only ate liquids for a while, I lost a ton of weight. My frontal lobe developed overnight when I noticed that males stopped treating me like ugly trash and started pursuing me. I was very flattered at first, but then realized quickly that they only wanted sex (or just a piece of arm candy). In either scenario I wasn’t treated like a real person with emotions and aspirations. I haven’t looked at them the same since
i think what the men in the replies are failing to understand, is that the NUMEROUS personal experiences of women can’t be ignored just bc you say we’re crazy. blanket statements are a slippery slope, but when SO MANY women have the same experience, what else are we supposed to say? ignore what we experience CONSTANTLY just to make you feel a tad more comfortable?
as a guy i can’t say ill flirt w someone who’s too overweight but i agree that they’re stupid for that. i might not personally be attracted romanticly to that body type but some of my best friends over the years have had a bit of fluff on them and so many guys don’t realize the value in having platonic relationships with a women for anything other than to try to date her
the way no one said we don’t. men and women are guilty of such, but the conversation we are having now is men only treating women with respect when they find them desirable. if you’d like to have a conversation of women disrespecting men in such a way, start one. but don’t be in here causing shit just because you wanna act morally superior.
This comment is exactly why I say this. Men weigh a lot of the male loneliness epidemic on lack of sexual attention from women but they constantly forget that *platonic* friendships also need to be built. That’s why people often believe women don’t struggle from this as much, because we don’t weigh our entire life’s happiness around if men find us attractive
Oh there’s some men that are absolutely horrible atrocious people. And there are so some women who are also horrible atrocious people. However I’m able to see past the “women inherently good and soft, and men inherently evil and hard” narrative that is being pushed by people like you.
women aren’t inherently good and soft and men aren’t inherently evil and hard. the reason that women are more commonly sexualized and why it’s an issue is because it’s perpetuated and reinforced by societal standards. no one thinks men are inherently bad but it’s not realistic to say that these issues aren’t more aimed towards women because that’s what has been made socially acceptable.
i do agree that there’s an underreporting problem but if you’re actually interested in men’s vs women’s issues and aren’t just arguing to argue i’d strongly suggest taking even an intro to soc class or even a gender studies class if you have free time in your schedule. i can’t talk for all colleges but mine had separate units on male centered issues and women centered issues
this post isn’t about lessening men’s problems tho, it’s about how the “male loneliness epidemic” has been turned into a way to degrade women. i honestly think you’d find there’s a ton of feminists who are actually very for working towards men’s issues on top of working towards women’s, especially with things like mental health. the patriarchy hurts EVERYONE
i feel like this is a cyclical argument going on here, but if you’re actually going into social work i do hope you look more into articles on the social expectations of women, men’s issues and women’s issues, and intersectional feminism (bc i do agree there’s lots of issues with “white feminism”)
i always feel like the odd one out w this bc everyone around has experiences getting cat called and stuff and i never really have. it makes me think im just unattractive and makes me feel insecure. idk i feel so weird about it. like i don’t wanna be catcalled or sexualized but i do bc it might make me feel pretty idk
I’m pretty sure it’s your narrative that’s small minded. Often people in your seat make this claims because of their own unwillingness to understand these concepts more than the surface level while being actively hostile to broadening their understanding. But I guess conservatives ARE fighting for everyone’s right to be uneducated and stay that way
I can agree with that. But in my experience as a heavier set dude women tend to choose men that are like that over men like myself. Every man starts out decent I’m not going to lie but then we all just kind of stop caring bc caring usually gets us no where🤷♂️. But I agree men are pigs 😂
Bro if you were truly supportive you wouldn’t be here trying to prove you’re the “exception”. Don’t be that guy that insists on inserting himself into women’s spaces because you feel like it. Why don’t you take your talking points to the dudes in your life, they’re the ones that really need it.
“Average” men tend to still be picky with who they date/pursue tho. Looks is a much bigger factor for men when it comes to relationships than it is for women. Yes ofc women want attractive men but if they have good personality & treat you right, that makes them automatically attractive despite the physical looks. Hence why you see very beautiful women with “average” looking guys more than really attractive guys with “average” women🤷♀️