Anonymous #2 3w

In terms of defending ICE, yeah. In terms of denouncing those terrorists, it only takes basic decency and humanity.

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Anonymous OP 3w

The part that bothers me with your statement is Obama did the same thing but there wasn’t this outrage then. It sounds like everyone who disagrees with you is a terrorist when you put it like that

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Anonymous #2 3w

So it wasn’t as wide spread and just outwardly aggressive as it’s obviously gotten worse, but also most people would have cared about it during Obama BUT seeing as this is a college app, most of us weren’t even voting age and also it wasn’t as publicized so people weren’t as aware of it. It’s publicized so much right now because it’s extremely wide spread and intense violations are way more common

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Anonymous #2 3w

It’s like saying the same thing about caring about animals dying from plastic pollution only after it was much worse 💀

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Anonymous #2 3w

The point right now is that people can’t really claim ignorance as it’s so publicly known and well documented what’s been happening, therefore people are CHOOSING to be bigoted or uneducated

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Anonymous #3 3w

I think why people are so mad about it even though if you see the camps they are far better than under Obama is because he is making light about the subject on the White House TikTok and you would expect the government to be more professional about the whole situation. On the case of it being widespread it naturally would be more widespread if more illegal immigrant came into the country. I also feel like people only think families that have no criminal record are being deported but in reality

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Anonymous #3 3w

Pt2- there are people with serious criminal offenses that I wouldn’t want to risk my family ever coming across of and even with there being some illegal immigrant who don’t have a criminal background, that truck driver that ended a family life because he didn’t take the emergency off ramp that just broke my heart because its something that shouldn’t have happened and now a whole family isn’t here because of it

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Anonymous #2 3w

Major flaw is what you’re saying is that it’s 1. Much worse under Trump. And 2. The amount of violent criminals being detained by ice HASNT CHANGED since trumps presidency. The only numbers that increased (and increased way dramatically) are the nonviolent minor convictions (like traffic violations) and people who haven’t committed any crime or violation whatsoever.

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Anonymous #2 3w

The camps are objectively worse with the conditions at cecot and alligator Alcatraz. ICE is dramatically more prominent (more than doubled in forces in one year). And they are being more violent towards more people with NO reason. While they used unnecessary force before, it was no where near this extreme.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Yes which I would be sympathetic but I don’t believe people who came here illegally should get special treatment even if they didn’t commit a violent crime. I have seen first hand how hard the process is to become a citizen and it isn’t fair for those people who sometimes wait decades to become a citizen if there are non violent illegal people here who get to skip the line.

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Anonymous #2 3w

You can look at ICE’s own stats on the violent criminals being detained vs last year, and the non violent criminals being detained, and the non criminals being detained (which is the majority)

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Anonymous #3 3w

If you look at the photos from Obama’s presidency compared to trumps I extremely disagree. Also again the Biden administration let in an extreme amount of illegal aliens at the south border so it makes sense why operations would be so much more present compared to Obama’s presidency

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Anonymous #2 3w

So saying that one person committing a crime means that all of them should be treated violently and detained… that’s lowkey fucked up. Like they commit LESS crime per person than actual citizens 💀 because yes the USA keeps those stats

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Anonymous #3 3w

Also about you claiming they are more violent the only videos I have seen of them being violent is toward protestors and regular people interfering with ICE which as much as you don’t like them you can’t legally interfere with an ice investigation without potentially getting detained or charged

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Anonymous #2 3w

Biden didn’t let in a huge amount of illegal aliens. He let it lots of LEGAL immigrants 💀 but also the reason why we have actual photos under Obama is because people were actually allowed into the facilities to see what was happening there. The places since Trump haven’t been facing any oversite and have detained people for coming to the detention centers to perform oversite and welfare checks

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Anonymous #2 3w

That’s another reason why it’s so horrible because there is zero oversight allowed when they legally are required to show it

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Anonymous #3 3w

Well if we use a bit of common sense if a us citizen commits a crime they go to jail, they aren’t just let off like they didn’t do anything

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Anonymous #3 3w

?legally required to show what

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No, most didn’t actually break any laws as most are here on visas and overstayed (not illegal to be out of status but is a crime to cross the border illegally)

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Anonymous #3 3w

Overstaying is still a form of breaking the law unfortunately, you can’t legally stay in the country with an expired visa, which it’s unfortunate but at the same time it’s like renewing a drivers license your still going to get into trouble if you choose to drive on an expired license it’s just has more consequences with visas because you are trying to stay in someone else’s country who you aren’t a citizen too

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Anonymous #2 3w

I was 4 years old when Obama was elected the first time, the fuck you expect us to do?

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Anonymous #4 3w

Are you even over 18 now?

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Anonymous #2 3w

If I was 4 years old in 2008 then you do the fucking math.

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Anonymous #2 3w

i was 1 when he was elected. i'm 18 now. so yes. they are over 18. but majority of children don't get exposure to the cruelty of the adult world. so yeah we didn't know about ice then. we couldn't be enraged. the only changes we can make are NOW. ice is hurting innocent citizens and it's not ok. do you not have empathy for anyone? this land was stolen, not given to us. europeans STOLE it from native americans. we pushed native americans from their homes

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Anonymous #2 3w

and since this is a "nation under god" maybe we should obey god's command to love thy neighbor 🤷‍♀️ just my thoughts

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Anonymous #5 3w

I do but I am thinking of the safety for the country as a whole and a proper and fair system that is in place not one where people cut the lines because the broke the rules. Babe you just turned 18 what makes you think you have been exposed to any real woo challenge and cruelties because it’s one thing when you live them and it’s another thing to emphasize for someone when in reality is you will never know how someone feels in a specific situation until you have gone through it yourself

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Anonymous #5 3w

Yes a nation under God but if you choose that then you’d also have to follow everything else that is in accordance with the Bible like not having abortions, which I assume in this chat doesn’t fully agree with. Also as much as I wish this was a fully Catholic and Christian country it’s not because it is a beautiful melting pot with freedom of religion too

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Anonymous #2 3w

fyi i don't believe in abortion unless the mother's healthy and/or life is at risk. but since you want to ask those questions, are you abstinent? do you curse? are you judgmental? do you talk to god? do you lust? do you have an addiction? do you idolize? jesus accepted everyone. yes he got angry but he never got violent. ice is violent and not accepting of others. and again. this is STOLEN land

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Anonymous #5 3w

I do agree Jesus accepted everyone, but you have to realize we are in a completely different time than when Jesus is here if we have the power to make a country safer by keeping track of who is citizens and who is not I will always advocate for that, obviously it’s not all illegal immigrants but it’s enough to where multiple families are getting hurt.

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Anonymous #5 3w

Are you speaking on stolen land from the native Americans or Mexico, we paid Mexico for land and yes the settlers and past presidents did to Native Americans was wrong and also the reason why I don’t believe trump is the worst president, but our country has done better to where we have reserve for people of Native American descent and on top of it how do you expect a country to be safe if there is no order or law to keep people with ill intentions under control?

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Anonymous #2 3w

yeah and multiple innocent families are being hurt by ice. people who are citizens to the united states are being hurt. i'm not saying that keeping our country safe is a bad thing. but this is not about safety anymore. this is about creating fear and gaining control. this is obsessive power and it's gone overboard. do i want people to be safe? YES!!! ice is not keeping people safe. they are hurting innocent people

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Anonymous #5 3w

Also your opinion about abortions isn’t everyone’s again our country is a beautiful melting pot but your funny if you think that I am going to not put citizens and legal immigrants safety and well-being over someone who decided to come into our country or stay on their expired visa, I reiterate a country needs to have order and laws to stay safe

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Anonymous #2 3w

then why are native americans being deported if we're doing better having reserves for the native americans?

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Anonymous #5 3w

If you claim that there are citizens being hurt I would like sources and names because whenever I ask for more information when this claim is brought up nobody provides reliable sources and when I mean sources not some random news site that doesn’t even mention a name because when your in custody your information as long as your over 18 is public so I’m open to reading up on these sources

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Anonymous #5 3w

What do you think it’s about? Have you looked up what some of the people have done that are being deported because from what I have seen so far it’s really bad stuff I would not want my family or even yours and you to ever risk coming across

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Anonymous #5 3w

What innocent people are they hurting? I don’t think sex offenders, people who are allegedly apart of the cartel are hurting innocent people. Also, if you don’t realize some of these people who come over are grown up with different standards, a undocumented immigrant at my work straight up punched a kid because he was upset with how the outcome of the soccer game went and for more clarity this was an adult punching a kid! Who do not have any violent criminal history prior to this incident.

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Anonymous #5 3w

I agree it sucks if you built a life and are genially benefitting this country and get deported, but our country is trying to run on principles on equality and that isn’t gonna be achieved by letting the illegal immigrant who came through the south border cut in-front of the immigrant from Kenya who never got that opportunity and who has been waiting a decade to get accepted for a visa

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Anonymous #5 3w

What articles are you reading I would love the source, because even logically your statement makes no sense unless you said native American gave up their citizenship which you can legally do left the country and tried to come back into the country

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Anonymous #2 3w

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf

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Anonymous #5 3w

Can you send title of article it won’t let me copy link 🔗

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Anonymous #5 3w

Just to clarify before I reply you’re saying that the U.S children are affected?

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Anonymous #2 3w

there's more than just us children in there. how much did you read!

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Anonymous #5 3w

The first couple people would you like to have a civil conversation and answer before I respond to your article or keep asking me questions?

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Anonymous #5 3w

I do have a question for you though how do you manage to have empathy for people like this article, but not for people have been hurt by illegal immigrants?

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Anonymous #2 3w

i said i wouldn't mind ice if it was actually protecting citizens but lately citizens are being arrested. i don't want people hurt by the illegal immigrants that are violent but i don't want innocent people detained by ice either

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Anonymous #5 3w

I agree, I feel like that’s reasonable, with the Juan incident I would love to see the body camera because from the quotes in the report it sounds suspicious and it sucks for the little boy who had cancer who didn’t get his treatment that’s awful, but you can’t bypass the law the reason he didn’t get his treatment is from the article you sent it’s from trump taking away birth right citizenship, he did that because a lot of people were coming over and getting citizenship through it, and it also

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Anonymous #5 3w

Is how the government is working with the law to not spilt up families I feel like it would get just as much hate if the government split up the family of this poor kid with cancer because the kids were birth citizens but the mother was not.

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Anonymous #5 3w

As much as it would suck to get detained by ice for however many hours if they have to do that so then their officers will get proper training and arrest the people who are here illegally I am fine with that because at the end of the Juan was held for 30 hours but there are numerous citizens who won’t be able to come home because of someone selfish actions of some illegal immigrants

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Anonymous #2 3w

Dude you are literally saying “if innocent people (not me) have to suffer to get one bad guy, that’s a price I’m willing to pay” that’s crazy un American and very explicitly against what our laws say 💀 that’s literally authoritarianism/police state to give up liberty and due process and rights to not be falsely imprisoned to get a handful of bad guys comparatively. It’s LESS than 1 out of every 10 people detained that had any violence ever anywhere. Imagine if our police operated like that

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Anonymous #3 3w

So your saying that one person sitting in a cell for less than two days is above matters more than someone getting murdered, that’s actually crazy 🤪

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Anonymous #2 3w

They are dedicating entire areas of the ice detention centers to hold CITIZENS SPECIFICALLY. They have been holding children in federal custody for wayyyy longer than legally allowed. They have deported USA citizens. They have covered up murders in their own facilities. People have been repeatedly denied medical care to the point of MULTIPLE deaths. How is any of that worth it?

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Anonymous #3 3w

Proof?

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Anonymous #2 3w

No im saying that murders should be treated like murders and innocent people should be treated like innocent people. You’re saying one person is a murderer so the federal government has right to detain whoever they want for however long even when it’s against the law

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Anonymous #3 3w

If it prevents the death of citizens and deports sex offenders and people who are said to be apart of the cartel or the illegal immigrant who chose to not take a exit ramp when the breaks failed on his simi truck the yes it’s worth it last time I check you can’t come back from death

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Anonymous #3 3w

Do you think murders are just gonna admit that they murdered someone? That’s not how the real world works

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Anonymous #2 3w

There is an insane amount of proof, just look at the medical reports of those who died in ICE custody. Literally just look it up. All of this information is free and openly available. I’m so exhausted from your bigotry and anti Americanism

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Anonymous #2 3w

How tf do you think police work???? We’ve been doing this shit for a long time before ice got involved

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Anonymous #3 3w

I want you to send a link 🔗 if you claim this back up your claim, i am so exhausted of asking for proof and the person making bold ass claims with no proof

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Anonymous #2 3w

The murderers were still punished according to the law. You’re literally saying they should be treated differently for a crime because of their country of origin

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Anonymous #3 3w

You clearly don’t understand it, you said they have a citizen specific place where ice hold US citizens prove it

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Anonymous #3 3w

Babe reread or learn how to read because that’s legit not want I said at all maybe take a chill pill 💊 and reread my responses

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Anonymous #2 3w

Links dont even work on here

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Anonymous #2 3w

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/21/us/lunas-campos-ice-detainee-texas-death

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Anonymous #2 3w

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-detainee-death-family-questions-hands-feet-tied-11066992

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Anonymous #2 3w

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/95-percent-of-deaths-in-ice-detention-could-likely-have-been-prevented-with-adequate-medical-care-report

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Anonymous #2 3w

I can’t explain how many hundreds of sources and stories and things there are against ice agents. There are so so so many more than just what I’ve sent. These are just the most verifiable and severe examples of obvious murder or medical neglect leading to death

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Anonymous #3 3w

Hey I would look more into your sources because the one that’s being linked as a homocide is still under review due to the multiple reports of this man unfortunately trying to commit suicide while being detained

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Anonymous #2 3w

I highly recommend you look into and read about what whistleblowers have leaked out of DHS, ICE, and border patrol. There is quite a few documents and information that has been leaked and you could fill a book with them so I’m not linking them here

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Anonymous #3 3w

Also I understand your viewpoint now because of your news sources at least the last person who was I was have a discussion with linked a government source and not a bunch of left leaning media

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Anonymous #2 3w

Dude. The OFFICAL MEDICAL EXAMINER told the sister of the deceased that it was homocide and you’re going to say reports of him trying to harm himself before makes that invalid? When inmates say they literally whitenessed it him dying?

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Anonymous #3 3w

Not saying there aren’t ever a few bad apples, but do you think ice should be completely disbanded because of it even though they have done far more good in my opinion

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Anonymous #2 3w

This is why I didn’t want to bother providing anything, because it doesn’t actually mean shit 💀 you’ll take what ever you want and believe whatever you want. You won’t trust the people who’s entire job it is is to identify cause of death but you’ll say his mental health was bad 💀

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Anonymous #3 3w

Not saying it’s invalid but if an officer tackles him to the group because he is trying to kill himself again and he dies that unfornate, but the government legally has strict laws against stuff involving sucide so if the person would have just let him do it then the officer would have for sure been in trouble and then the news would be up and arms about t hat too

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Anonymous #2 3w

THEY HAVE LITERALLY MURDERED PEOPLE AND COVERED IT UP FROM THE INSIDE!!!! This is far past a few bad apples. The people who have worked there in the past have left because of how bad it is. People who work with them have reported them. Professionals have quite in like the highest courts and offices because they refuse to authorize the shit they are doing

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Anonymous #3 3w

My bad for wanting proper documentation, look at how much CNN is getting sued for shit and you’ll understand why I don’t trust them as a news source anymore

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Anonymous #2 3w

Right so killing someone so they don’t kill themselves… good job.

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Anonymous #3 3w

So your saying you would rather have murders, drug dealers, sex offenders on the streets still and disband ice to prevent the bad incidents in the detention centers from happening?

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Anonymous #3 3w

I ask you the same thing I asked the other person why do you have empathy for the people who you say are getting murdered in ice centers but not the citizens getting murdered on the streets by illegal immigrants

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Anonymous #2 3w

There are hundreds of other sources saying the same thing so pick your poison, that’s why I said look it up yourself. You don’t trust one news media so then I must be wrong 🙄 genuinely do your own research and stop having opinions on topics you aren’t educated on at all

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Anonymous #3 3w

You clearly don’t know how the human body works stuff that you can handle when your younger ant the same when your older, so if they had to hold him down to detain him but this is a grown man so you have to think he’s pretty strong logically so you would have to use excess force and yes it’s awful he passed away and may he be with GOD but your justifiying one murder for another at this point

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Anonymous #2 3w

Ice isn’t stopping or preventing any of those things from happening. They are sending a full racial group away and saying “some of them must have been bad so we are doing good”. How about we do what we do with every other kind of person in the USA and hold them to the law with due process. Ice isn’t punishing criminals, just moving some.

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Anonymous #3 3w

And yet you only choose to send left wing media sources, I asked you because I did my research and couldn’t find anything, but apparently you can’t find anything either lol 😂

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Anonymous #2 3w

Also immigrants are more like to be sex trafficked, not the other way around. They are one of the most common targets for predators in America. So please don’t act like these sex traffickers are crossing the border and such an issue when we literally have one for president and no one does shit.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Couldn’t find anything? Dude you’re just fucking joking at this point. I’m so tired of racist ass people acting like they are saving lives with identical rhetoric to why Germans were happy sending off their immigrants.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I’m so so tired of fuck ass people like you. There is so much fucking evidence everywhere of horrible abuses coming from officials investigating it since our federal government won’t do it but you’re too busy thinking brown man bad to give a shit about actual torture and murder that has happened within these concentration camps (like CECOT)

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Anonymous #3 3w

not to mention the officer who literally admitted to raping someone in ice custody

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Anonymous #7 3w

So they are most likely gonna be a little more cautious or be more defensive because of what happened to them prior. So do you know how we avoid all those things that were listed? Listen to them just like how you should listen to a cop when he tells you to do something! Cause would you guys rather end up fighting it in court and being alive or (I know this is a bit grim but) fighting them in the scene and probably dying like come on have some common sense

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Anonymous #7 3w

“ aren’t magical beings”

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Anonymous #2 3w

it’s not about deportations being widespread. it’s about people being deported without due process on a much wider scale, which is also often resulting in in people who actually are citizens being detained based on racial profiling. even if they are eventually released, this has detrimental impacts on families and communities who can lose their sources of income and even housing when their loved ones are taken, as well as of course their sense of security.

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Anonymous #8 3w

they’re also detaining people as they go through the immigration process (literally at immigration offices), as well as children while they are at school, so it’s about creating fear, not about “getting rid of criminals”

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Anonymous #2 3w

citizens actually do commit crimes all the time and nothing happens to us. speeding, fake id, underage drinking, petty theft, uhhhg a literal felon is somehow in office, ect. ect.

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Anonymous #9 3w

No kidding. And it’s been well established in US law that even undocumented immigrants have rights and due process. Being out of status or entering illegally doesn’t suddenly mean they can be treated as subhuman and loose rights given to everyone.

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