
he's trying to place the onus on you when he can't make you cum. rather than saying "it's rare for a man to be able give a woman an orgasm without toys" he frames it as their inability to orgasm without them, which is false. he almost certainly has little to no intentions of bringing you to orgasm because he will see it as a failure on your part, not his. it's true *in practice* because men aren't expected to make women orgasm and don't try very hard; not true on a *fundamental* level
I’m sorry, I phrased it in a way that was really unfair to him. I meant he said its almost impossible during *penetrative* sex. He actually has made me finish during oral sex- which I hadn't really experienced from a romantic partner before, so it was exciting. I told him I wanted to know what an orgasm during penetration felt like and he offered that we could use toys like a vibe during it to make it more likely to happen
We haven't done penetration yet, but he cares a lot about letting me experiment with things. I know a lot of women need internal and external stimulation to orgasm, but I'm hoping with enough practice we could make it happen during internal stimulation without a toy. I just wonder if it's reasonable to think it can happen with practice and maybe his experience is different than the norm
ohhh i seeeee. my bad for assuming as well - the wording was very similar to language i've heard many men used that's basically just a blame game of who's supposed to make her 🥜 xD my apologies! yeah i think it's definitely possible - like you said clitoral stimulation is possible without toys! strictly penetrative sex... harder... but not impossible! foreplay and mental/emotional stimulation will be key there