Anonymous #4 11w

Viagra is gender affirming care and so many people refuse to accept that

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Anonymous #3 11w

there's injections???

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Anonymous #2 11w

Yup and they inject it (the one I’m referring to) into their pen!s. We had one guy who would flip out on us if we didn’t refrigerate his, even tho we weren’t supposed to, because it “feels and works better” like sir WHAT do you mean it FEELS BETTER?!

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why does he get special treatment?

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Well considering it actually makes the medication jelly instead of a liquid yes. We aren’t supposed to put it in the fridge because it damages it. It’s not all about what the customer wants…..it’s about what’s safe and what works……

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Anonymous #6 11w

Oh he never did. We always told him what it did to the medication and how we couldn’t so he would throw a HUGE fit. We told him like if you want to destroy it yourself at your house by putting it in the fridge sure but we won’t be doing it bc if something happens we weren’t gonna be liable

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Is he you?

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wtf are you on about

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you sound stupid and misogynistic

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Erectile dysfunction is “biologically designed” dumb dumb

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Anonymous #12 11w

Fun fact also it’s boner abilities were discovered likely on accident, cause older men with heart issues would be prescribed viagra to keep them alive, and then suddenly they could get boners again!

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If birth control is murder, then so is masturbating. And there are multiple states trying to claim birth control is murder

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Except then we’d be controlling men instead of women and stopping them from “finding pleasure”

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Anonymous #12 11w

It’s so interesting to me how people can understand that banning viagra would be a bad thing because it has other benefits just as you said, but it is so hard for some folks (not directed at you) to fathom that things like birth control can also have other benefits such as treating PMDD. For the record, I think both should be allowed for both their sexual health reasons and other reasons, but it’s just frustrating how this double standard exists for meds targeted towards female issues.

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This had nothing to do with abortion are you dense? This has to do with women who can’t get pregnant without intervention and it’s directed at ppl who demonize IVF by saying “if you were meant to get pregnant it would happen” just like if god wanted you hard it would happen. Also having a limp d!ck doesn’t mean the body part is unhealthy. Just that intercourse is difficult most of the time. Aggravated yourself for no reason

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Anonymous #20 11w

AGREED OMG!!! The amount of people who assumed I got my iud purely for unprotected sex when I got it to treat awful periods is crazy. You’re so so right

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Anonymous #12 11w

Exactly same with me my cycle used to be so irregular it was unmanageable before birth control, it’s sad how stigmatized birth control is when it literally can have health benefits for so many women

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Anonymous #3 11w

No, this is specifically pro-choice. This quote was made right after Roe v Wade was overturned.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Either way she is correct. Having erectile dysfunction doesn’t mean the body part is unhealthy… and it’s true if it’s gods will so is a limp d!ck 🤷‍♀️. Oh hey also it’s not up to you what other women do with their bodies

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Anonymous #12 11w

This! The ed med market is so crazy. My partner is on this one med for peeing and if the dose is like quadrupled it’s used as an off label ed med but it’s literally cheaper to buy a quadrupled dose marketed as an ed med than it is to buy the normal dose that allows the poor man to piss properly like??? It’s like how it’s easier to get ozempic for obesity than diabetes even though it’s made for diabetes

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Anonymous #22 11w

Heh I just wanted to say that Ozempic is not just for diabetes. People use it for things even like arthritis! Also a lot of “obese” people get on it to prevent diabetes. Also have you guys tried GoodRx? 30 tablets is usually about $13 through them and it doesn’t require insurance or anything!

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Anonymous #3 11w

Also didn’t mean to say heh 🤢

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Anonymous #3 11w

Oh yeah there’s definitely off label uses I’m not denying that! I was more so referring to the fact that things like ozempic are just known as “the weight loss drug” or I’m on literal hrt for my endo but people will still call it simply “birth control” when that’s not the main use of these drugs. He does use something for a lot of his meds too! It’s not goodrx but it’s a similar concept I just forgot the name. Luckily I haven’t ran into any big med pricing problems yet

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Anonymous #14 11w

Holy shit I’m literally just now realizing you weren’t who I meant to reply to. I thought you were #18

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Anonymous #22 11w

Ooooooh yeah I see. But I’m glad he has something to help with the cost! The only other one I know about is Buzzrx but I’m also glad you haven’t had any issues so far!

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Anonymous #3 11w

I’m pretty sure it’s that weird thing with mark cuban which I’m still totally confused how mark cuban of all people ended up in the affordable drug market but hey he could be doing much worse things so. Cost plus drugs or something like that

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Anonymous #3 11w

The fuck….

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You’re speaking straight facts and you’ll notice no one has a coherent argument against you

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Anonymous #14 11w

No distinct human life is created from masturbating so there cannot be any murder. If you mean abortaficient birth control, well…yeah

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Anonymous #9 11w

Get out of here, because you’re clearly a man in a women’s only space

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Anonymous #14 11w

…I’m literally a woman girl what

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Anonymous #9 11w

Then you’re a woman who’s never been pregnant, and never had an honest conversation about pregnancy with a woman who has experienced it. Even when pregnancy goes as perfectly as can be wished for, it’s still terrible on the body and still doesn’t work quite the way it should. There’s a reason why modern medicine took maternal fatalities down from ~2% to ~0.4% and child fatalities down from ~5% in the first month to ~2.5%. It’s because pregnancy doesn’t work as it should

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Anonymous #9 11w

And that’s before you start considering the miscarriages, mothers who died in miscarriage, stillbirths, and women who died but aren’t counted in that statistic because the child wasn’t actually born

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Anonymous #9 11w

Except that’s not necessarily even true? Complications during pregnancy are pretty common…I wouldn’t exactly consider that the “body working as it’s designed”. But now there’s some states where women are prevented by the law from getting life saving care even in pregnancies that are wanted! There’s no clear line written in the laws. “Pro-life” vs “pro-choice” doesn’t really matter; politicians aren’t doctors, and we shouldn’t normalize writing laws that infringe on our body and healthcare rights

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Anonymous #20 11w

Please state a case where you think abortion is life-saving and I’d be happy to walk you through it.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Why do you assume I’ve never been pregnant? If true what steps do you think were taken to avoid pregnancy? You mention child fatalities. Do you know how many successful abortions end in fatalities? (I’ll give you a hint…it’s 100%)

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Anonymous #14 11w

All of those cases have nothing to do with abortion. Unless you’re counting cases like Amber Thurman who died of abortion pills.

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Anonymous #20 11w

“Life-saving care” for the mother is never prevented by abortion bans. This is fearmongering propaganda by the pro-abortion. Feel free to explain a case and I’ll help provide the explanation.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Ectopic pregnancy, severe pre-eclampsia ot eclampsia, intrauterine infection, severe hemorrhaging…just to name a few. I think you’re the one who needs to be walked through it babe! It might benefit you to turn off the fox news and read a medical journal once in a while. Btw, miscarriage is literally called spontaneous abortion in medical terms. Another difference that lawmakers don’t understand…and all of these nuances make these laws incredibly dangerous. Nice try though!

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Anonymous #9 11w

You said pregnancy is the body working as it’s supposed to. Those are proof that it tends to be the exact opposite, and pregnancy is, in the majority of cases, a trigger for conditions that would be life threatening without modern medicine. Even pregnancy-caused anemias are be enough to kill if not treated

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Anonymous #9 11w

There are literally doctors sitting in jail on CAPITAL MURDER CHARGES for performing abortions on ectopic (aka never gonna be viable, always gonna be deadly) pregnancies in Texas right now

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Anonymous #14 11w

Name the conditions. Also please explain what activities ended in pregnancy that are contrary to the body’s design.

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Anonymous #9 11w

https://www.prb.org/news/abortion-bans-linked-to-sharp-rise-in-sepsis-infant-death-and-maternal-mortality-new-research-shows/ This is literally the FIRST result on google. You’re just choosing to be intentionally dense.

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Anonymous #20 11w

Ectopic pregnancy treatment is not abortion, which is why it’s still allowed in every state with the strictest abortion bans. Ectopic pregnancy treatment has nothing to do with abortion. With the other conditions you mentioned, there’s actually a much safer and faster option for the mother, which is early delivery, no abortion needed. I’ve never watched Fox News in my life so idk why you’re spotlighting them. Miscarriage aka spontaneous abortion is understood by current laws to be different -

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Anonymous #9 11w

- because it’s not illegal. Can I help you with anything else?

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Anonymous #9 11w

The only treatment for ectopic pregnancy is abortion. Literally nothing else works. And no, early delivery is not always an option. And there are women in jail on charges of murder for “getting an abortion” when they actually had a miscarriage.

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Anonymous #9 11w

The only reason the reasoning above doesn’t seem coherent is because it is directly based on the (very faulty) “reasoning” many conservative states are using to put women and doctors on death row. Kind of ironic that a “pro life” law would sentence people to death, no?

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Anonymous #20 11w

I read your article. Please list a doctor, list a case specifically and I can help. Abortion bans do not restrict live saving care. Therefore, any life saving care that is denied is not because of abortion laws. This is extremely simple logic, easily accessible to anyone with a brain.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Laws do not restrict treatment for ectopic pregnancy. List the case. If true, this is medical malpractice and not because of abortion laws.

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Anonymous #9 11w

“We found that 24% of physicians in restrictive or semi-restrictive states reported delays in the management of patients with suspected or confirmed ectopic pregnancy, and 54% of physicians reported adaptations to care of these patients including repeat testing and arranging alternative care in cases where they might previously have delivered definitive care in the emergency department.” Deviating from the standard of care. Again, these laws are dangerous for both doctors and patients.

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Anonymous #14 11w

The treatment for ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. This is why it’s available in every state with total abortion bans. Please do your research. Name a women in jail for murder who had a miscarriage.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’re not a doctor, so you can’t “help” babe but ok. You’re actually just rage baiting at this point. It’s incredible to me that in a world where information more accessible then ever people like you still choose to live in ignorance.

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Anonymous #20 11w

Yes, especially dangerous for the people in utero. Do you have any names or?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Very sad 20 felt the need to leave the conversation. I would have happily heard out the response.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Sad 20 had to leave the chat! Happy to answer for anyone else.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Also please explain a single condition solved by abortion vs early delivery.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You sweet summer child, anyone with a brain is either helping this along so they can have a semblance of control, or is very much against the “pro-life” (but actually only pro-birth, not pro-life - real pro-lifers support social programs like food banks and proper healthcare) movement. Women are having miscarriages, a very traumatic event, and then being charged with murder of their fetus by abortion ON TOP OF having already lost their babies.

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Anonymous #9 11w

AND many doctors now refuse to do abortions that actually are medically necessary out of fear of being brought up on murder charges

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Anonymous #9 11w

No, it’s because abortions to treat ectopic pregnancies are listed as such on the bill. And even though *most* of the anti abortion laws on the books give an exemption to “medically necessary” abortions, it has been clearly proven that while that exemption *might* hold up as a defense, it hasn’t stopped prosecutors from bringing charges. And sometimes just being brought up on charges is deterrent enough

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Anonymous #14 11w

Please name a single woman or doctor “sentenced to death”. Happy to help you understand.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Kristen Anaya: A Texas woman who had to wait 22 hours and develop a spiking fever and sepsis before doctors could provide life-saving care for a nonviable pregnancy that still had cardiac activity.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Amanda Zurawski: Another prominent Texas plaintiff who was denied an abortion after her water broke prematurely at 18 weeks; she was sent home until she went into septic shock.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Josseli Barnica and Tierra Walker: Texas women whose tragic, preventable deaths were tied by medical experts to delayed emergency miscarriage interventions involving sepsis.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Brittney Poolaw (Oklahoma): Sentenced to four years in prison for first-degree manslaughter after experiencing a miscarriage at 15 to 17 weeks, following a positive toxicology screen for methamphetamine and marijuana, despite medical examiners noting other potential natural causes for the loss.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Brittany Watts (Ohio): Charged with felony abuse of a corpse after suffering an unassisted miscarriage at home following a denied or delayed hospital admission for a nonviable pregnancy. An Ohio grand jury ultimately declined to indict her.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Selena Maria Chandler-Scott (Georgia): Arrested and charged with concealing a death and abandoning a dead body after a natural, nonviable miscarriage at 19 weeks

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Anonymous #9 11w

Texas: Providers face up to life in prison, a minimum $100,000 civil penalty, and the automatic loss of their medical license

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Anonymous #9 11w

Alabama: Performing an illegal abortion is classified as a Class C felony, punishable by up to 20 years in prison

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Anonymous #9 11w

Louisiana: Convicted clinicians face up to 15 years in prison and fines up to $200,000

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Anonymous #9 11w

Courts have sentenced women to 30 to 50 years in prison under aggravated homicide charges after experiencing a pregnancy loss. Women who suffer miscarriages or other medical emergencies can be arrested directly from the hospital.

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Anonymous #11 11w

it's so sickening knowing this :/ i really wish the government was nicer to us

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Anonymous #2 11w

It's all about control. Some men got a sad because women earn more college degrees than men now. Now that women have options and don't have to marry them to survive, their brilliant idea was force women to have babies. Lazy bastards will do anything but make themselves fuckable.

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Anonymous #23 11w

If I wanted government in my pussy, I'd fuck a Senator.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great! If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate!

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Anonymous #31 11w

??? A sperm by itself isn’t a distinct human life yet idk what you mean

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Anonymous #14 11w

No ectopic pregnancy treatments are prevented by abortions bans. Give me a single example or state. Abortion is never medically necessary. List a single example.

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Anonymous #14 11w

List a single example. I’ll wait.?

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Anonymous #14 11w

This is baseless fearmongering. Name a doctor. Again, I’ll wait.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Ts has been all over the news for years dude

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Anonymous #26 11w

Oh then it should be super easy for you to name a single example 🙂 or is this just something you like to say that has no basis in reality?

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Anonymous #9 11w

so you're just stupid is what youre saying

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Anonymous #9 11w

pre-eclampsia, eclampsia, blocked vaginal canal (fatal for mom AND baby without c-section), not to mention post-part depression, psychosis, and mania. maybe do some googling holy shit

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Anonymous #2 11w

Come back when you have an actual argument lmao

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Anonymous #2 11w

None of these conditions require abortion. In fact I’m glad you mentioned the condition that is fatal for the baby without a c section. You do realize abortion makes it fatal for the baby right?

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Anonymous #9 11w

you need to do some extensive research on women's reproductive anatomy and the human pregnancy cycle. that's all i have to say

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Anonymous #9 11w

i mentioned that because it happened to my mother. i am talking about how pregnancy can be fatal. people have a right to choose whether or not they want to suffer for nine months or not.

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Anonymous #2 11w

A lot of people on this thread like you throw statements around like this with literally nothing to back it up 🤷‍♀️ what exactly do you think I don’t know about women’s reproductive anatomy and the human pregnancy cycle…?

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Anonymous #9 11w

clearly a lot more than you

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Anonymous #9 11w

Yes they literally do. Thank you for getting on here and letting us know you’re uneducated tho

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Anonymous #9 11w

Actually none since a fetus isn’t a fucking baby

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Anonymous #9 11w

Pregnancy is the body working as intended in that births are usually successful, the baby survives, and the mother passes on her genes. It is not the body working as intended for self sustenance and preservation. Evolution doesn’t factor in efficiency or life expectancy, if you have a baby and it survives, that is evolutionarily functional, while still posing severe risk for the mother. Birth is a notoriously inefficient process among humans because our heads are huge, and our hips are too small

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Anonymous #9 11w

My brother in christ there is literally a woman going viral right now because her decomposing fetus is sitting in her uterus and she’s unable to access the medical care to get it removed since it’s an abortion. This woman has been carrying a fetus corpse for weeks and is terrified of going septic but can’t do anything about it because the procedure to fix it is a D&C which has been barred due to abortion bans. This has already directly caused women with missed miscarriages to die

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Anonymous #9 11w

it should also be super easy for you to look it up yourself! are we incompetant

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Anonymous #22 11w

What is her name? D&C for miscarriage is not an abortion nor is it banned anywhere. If anyone is denied miscarriage care it’s malpractice and they should sue. Quite literally irrelevant to abortion bans which do not legally prevent them at all.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Ok but the condition you mentioned you explained could be solved for everyone via c section. Abortion is always fatal. Pregnancy does not have to be. You’re now shifting your argument, it’s not about avoiding death it’s about avoiding 9 months of pregnancy, at the expense of another persons life

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Anonymous #3 11w

No, they don’t. Over 1000 doctors recently signed a declaration stating they are never medically necessary. In every case you listed, early delivery is safer and faster for the mother.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Idk what point you think you’re making? Every single person in existence is here from a pregnancy. Pregnancy happens when you have sex and your body works as designed. Thats the entire biological purpose of sex. ED is by name a dysfunction.

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Anonymous #9 11w

C-sections still pose a lot of dangers to the mother though. It’s still a risk to her life. Also wow, a whopping 1000 doctors in a nation of 350m people. Very solid sample size. Mhm.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You don’t know what point I’m making, because you’re fucking stupid.

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Anonymous #2 11w

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim 🧐 I couldn’t find a single example because they don’t exist. Prove me wrong and list one. If you don’t you’re admitting you’re parroting a talking point with no evidence. Btw it’s spelled “incompetent”

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Anonymous #2 11w

Go on, state one 🙂 or do you not actually have anything

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Anonymous #9 11w

Not the monocle emoji come on just give it up dude

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Anonymous #3 11w

A fetus is a distinct human life. Fetus is a developmental term just like toddler, newborn, teenager etc.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Abortions also pose a risk to the mother and successful abortions create the biggest risk for the human in utero (death)

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Anonymous #9 11w

By this logic any human cell is a distinct human life and should be protected by punishment of prosecution. Do NOT scrub in the shower y’all.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Ig you could maybe extend that to only stem cells but the point stands imo. People kill their brain cells all the time.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Hmm how many doctors would have to be involved for you to accept it? Have that many doctors stated abortion IS medically necessary? This is common sense. There’s no life-saving condition that is only solved through abortion

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Anonymous #26 11w

Sounds like you don’t know what point you’re making either, but it makes you feel better to throw around insults 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #9 11w

Abortions are traumatic but they’re not actually very risky? Idk where you got that. Risk of infection is increased but the fatality rates of abortion vs pregnancy is not comparable lmfao. Unless you’re referring to like, coat hanger abortion. Which were literally only and specifically performed due to and in the absence of proper medical care. Come on now.

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Anonymous #26 11w

No any human cell is not a distinct human life. Skin cells etc. are not distinct human lives. Science says a distinct human life begins at fertilization.

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Anonymous #9 11w

I already made my point in the post. I’m throwing insults because thy apply. I explained very carefully, it’s not my fault you have poor literacy skills.

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Anonymous #26 11w

….every successful abortion results in at minimum one death. Early delivery is safer & faster. Oh, why are abortions traumatic?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Idk what the hell I woke up from my nap to, but I haven’t heard anything about abortions posing a risk to the woman getting one. I have heard of MANY risks and complications about women (forced or not) giving birth

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Anonymous #26 11w

Wait you’re the same person whose comments I’m debunking elsewhere on this thread 😂 omg

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Anonymous #9 11w

? You’ve barely replied to me and nothing you’ve said has debunked anyone.

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Anonymous #9 11w

“Have that many doctors stated that abortion is necessary?” Yes. Over one thousand doctors have stated the abortion is necessary. Jesus Christ.

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Anonymous #26 11w

I’ll amend- ACCESS to safe abortion is necessary.

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Anonymous #9 11w

how can you be this dense

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Anonymous #9 11w

Why are abortions traumatic? Oh idk maybe it’s because you’re getting the entire lining of your uterus scraped off which hurts wnd fucks w your hormones. Abortions also usually follow traumatic experiences, and despite not being conscious, people do get attached to the idea of having a baby, even if they know they shouldn’t or can’t afford it. Not because the fetus is sentient, but because people are sentimental.

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Anonymous OP 11w

So if we really dumb it down, an abortion is just “killing” a group of cells

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Anonymous OP 11w

I’d be happy to share those with you. Risks to the woman include uterine perforation, cervical laceration, hemorrhage, infection, death, and future pregnancy complications. This doesn’t even include depression after sitting with killing your own child. In later terms early delivery is always safer. In earlier term we are seeing more tragic maternal deaths from self managed mailed abortion pills.

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Anonymous #26 11w

There’s no such thing as a safe abortion because all abortions successfully kill at least one person

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Anonymous #26 11w

Feel free to scroll and read 😂

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Anonymous #9 11w

That is called “taking the high road” or “not wasting anymore time”

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Anonymous #26 11w

Medically* necessary. A thousand doctors haven’t said this, because it’s not true. But if they have you should be able to pull that up right…? Right?

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Anonymous OP 11w

By this logic killing any human is killing a group of cells. You’re a group of cells. I’m a group of cells. 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #9 11w

Did you just spellcheck me on a word I didn’t use in my post? Tracks lol. “Medically” was inferred.

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Anonymous #9 11w

I have, your points are nonsense and your arguments are… not even half baked they’re just raw.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Oh what else is being scraped off from the uterus? …the body parts of the human that was just killed. They have to reassemble all the body parts to make sure none were accidentally left inside. Yes, it makes sense people would get sentimental over killing their kid

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Anonymous #26 11w

Who said anything about spellcheck…? Ok great, abortions are never medically necessary. Name a single condition

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Anonymous OP 11w

and yet here you are. Happy to help. What do you still not understand?

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Anonymous #26 11w

Whatever makes you feel better. Did you know in 2nd trimester abortions they have to crush the baby’s skull, drain the brains out and then dismember the limbs one by one?

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Anonymous OP 11w

AFAIK if it’s performed poorly you can potentially get a uterine infection. Which is serious, but also treatable by modern medicine and antibiotics in most cases if caught in time. Which, I’d wager it’s kinda hard not to.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Ectopic pregnancy.

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Anonymous #26 11w

The treatment for ectopic pregnancy is not abortion which is why it’s available even in states with strict abortion bans.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Most people don’t get second trimester abortions to my knowledge?? Usually you start getting a bump by then, in most cases you’ll probably know you’re pregnant already and have made a decision. I have mixed feelings about second trimester abortion as is, but as stated earlier, if access isn’t available, people will take it into their own hands and end up harming themselves. Most second trimester abortions I hear of are because the baby would’ve been stillborn. So kind of a moot point.

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Anonymous #9 11w

It’s still considered as such under many state laws post roe v wade. It is prosecutable in Texas iirc, though I heard that a while ago so idk if they’ve amended their laws or not.

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Anonymous #26 11w

No, it isn’t. This is fear mongering. In Texas ectopic pregnancy treatment is completely legal, just like all states

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Anonymous #26 11w

Second trimester abortions are not as common as earlier term abortions but there are still 10,000+ abortions a year in 2nd & 3rd trim. There is no evidence to suggest stillborns cause these abortions…3rd trim procedure CREATES a stillborn

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Anonymous #9 11w

You are equating “dead baby” with stillborn, which is false. Stillborns are babies that would not survive outside the womb, their organs and/or do not properly function, and there is no chance of survival. A stillborn is inherently a dead baby, but a dead baby is not inherently a stillborn. There’s no evidence because these are private confidential medical procedures?? Gathering data on this would be GROSSLY violating HIPPA. You genuinely have no clue what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Organs and/or brain*

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Anonymous #26 11w

No I mean stillborn. Do you know what a stillborn is? Are you familiar with the 3rd trimester procedure? What do you think it entails? There’s evidence because the largest abortion providers have had their research institutes state it: “data suggest that most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment." But it’s interesting you say there can’t be any evidence yet want to also say it’s because of stillbirths lol

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Anonymous #26 11w

If you don’t list a single example it’s because there aren’t any

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Anonymous #11 11w

Kristen Anaya is very much alive. She was not given proper care which should have been early delivery to end the pregnancy, not abortion.

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Anonymous #11 11w

Amanda Zurawski, also still alive, delivered her preborn child in a procedure that was not an abortion, and should have been given earlier.

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Anonymous #11 11w

Josseli Barnica was killed due to medical malpractice, not abortion laws. Tierra Walker was sent home incorrectly and is also a victim of medical malpractice, not abortion laws.

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Anonymous #11 11w

Brittney Poolaw is also still very much alive. She was sentenced when a medical examiner found drugs on the baby’s brain. I would agree that this sentencing was unnecessarily harsh. This has nothing to do with abortion laws, not even sure why you included it

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Anonymous #11 11w

Yes, for murdering a human through abortion

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Anonymous #11 11w

Generous, seeing as other forms of murder are Class A

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Anonymous #11 11w

I feel like you’re proving yourself wrong, you remember you were trying to say drs were sentenced to death right? Not 15 yrs in prison?

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Anonymous #11 11w

Brittany Watts is alive. She was a victim of malpractice as she was scheduled to have an early delivery, not an abortion. The hospital kept her waiting a long time and she gave up and left. Abortion is irrelevant.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’re the real mvp. Impressive swatting down of the straw men!

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Anonymous #11 11w

Selena Maria Chandler-Scott is also alive. Her arrest had nothing to do with abortion laws. In Georgia concealing the death of a person is a felony. Personally I agree this was too harsh, but abortion laws are irrelevant

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Anonymous #9 11w

Are you positive you didn’t have your head crushed and brains drained out because holy shit there’s no way someone can have a fully functional brain and fall for the anti abortion propaganda this hard 💀

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Anonymous #9 11w

Here’s 4 cases from a simple google search, video format because I know you people have trouble reading https://x.com/reprorights/status/2059353992828739720?s=46 https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/GPPIbq8kU7 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1868571110083520/posts/4437569143183691/ https://www.facebook.com/story.php

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Anonymous #9 11w

Abortion bans cause doctors to be forced to put off care for non viable pregnancies and missed miscarriages because insurance companies claim you can’t be 100% sure it’s non viable or laws state they must wait weeks and do many scans unless they are already actively dying. Even in cases of non viable pregnancies the records DO go down as abortions because it’s the exact same procedures

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Anonymous #9 11w

This happens all the fucking time

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Anonymous #22 11w

What specifically are you saying is incorrect and what is your evidence

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Anonymous #22 11w

Not clickable 🤷‍♀️ name names. I went through a ton further up on this post.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Inducing labor is not an abortion (unless it’s part of a 3rd trim abortion which involves killing the human then inducing labor). Miscarriage care is not abortion. Doctors who deny these things should be charged with malpractice, their actions have nothing to do with abortion laws.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Another example. If the human in utero was already dead it wasn’t an abortion being sought. If she was denied care this is malpractice not a result of abortion laws.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Listen carefully: it is not an abortion if the human in utero has already passed away.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Are you really too stupid to figure out how to copy and paste a link? 💀 yeah you’re hopeless bro. Keep gobbling the propaganda slop instead of having empathy for real women sharing their stories

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Anonymous #22 11w

Miscarriage treatment is not an abortion and is not affected by abortion bans.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Again the heartbeat was already stopped, this wasn’t an abortion. She should sue for malpractice.

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Anonymous #22 11w

That’s a lot of words to say you can’t name names

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Anonymous #22 11w

Yikyak doesn’t allow copy paste. If you don’t name names it’s because you can’t.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You have one argument and it’s “nuh uh” bffr. A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. It is a type of abortion and miscarriage care is the exact same treatments as any other type of abortion to finish the abortion process. This has been known for so long and you just refuse to accept it

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Anonymous #26 11w

You’ll really do anything other than back up your own argument lmao

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Anonymous #9 11w

#26 and #11 are literally providing all the proof you could want, it’s not our fault you are being too lazy to read said proof

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Anonymous #9 11w

Baby take a screenshot and go to your camera roll and copy paste. They are mostly people’s socials or not their full names for very obvious reasons. Some Derek and Anya, another is Ashley something, one girl wouldn’t state her name, and can you really blame them for not wanting their legal names out there when people like you exist and will just harass them after they were forced to go through very traumatic experiences

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Anonymous #14 11w

I have debunked every single thing they have said and patiently explained the inaccuracies. Meanwhile I’m still waiting for even one of your “many doctors.” You can’t even name a single person, because there aren’t any

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Anonymous #9 11w

Corrections to our illiterate friend here: 1) abortions are sometimes medically necessary 2) the only treatment for ectopic pregnancies or miscarriages that don’t pass is abortion 4) we’ve been providing all the proof #9 has been asking for, they’re just too lazy to read it

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Anonymous #22 11w

…what? No, the argument is teaching you clearly the difference between miscarriage treatment, early induced delivery, and abortion. Medically and legally, they are not the same. “Spontaneous abortion” is not legislated the same way nor is there a procedure. They are not the same treatments, there are similarities in removing the body but an abortion intentionally kills a human and that’s the key difference. If you think they’re the same plz explain why miscarriage isn’t illegal…?

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Anonymous #9 11w

No baby listen. These women were literally telling their stories in relation to abortion bans because they were denied care due to said bans. The bans are so fucked and make no sense to the point that they are not allowed care for non viable pregnancies due to the laws. They are banning the entire procedures. Abortion bans ban the procedures for missed miscarriages and accuse women of lying about their miscarriages

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Anonymous #9 11w

It is still a medical abortion. Just because you disagree that doesn’t change what it is

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Anonymous #14 11w

1) abortions are never medically necessary, and no one on this entire thread has been able to list a condition 2) ectopic pregnancy treatment and miscarriage treatment are not abortions, which is why they are legal in places where abortion is completely banned 4) read on, you’ll notice there’s a reversion to name calling due to severe lack of evidence

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Anonymous #9 11w

Dude how many times do they have to spoon feed you basic information

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Anonymous #3 11w

No, it isn’t. The procedure to remove a deceased human is not an abortion.

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Anonymous #9 11w

The name calling is only happening because you refuse to acknowledge or even read the proof you are being provided

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Anonymous #3 11w

“Medical abortion” actually refers to early term pill abortion as opposed to surgical

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Anonymous #9 11w

They are quite literally the exact same treatments. Mifepristone and misoprostol first or early enough and then D&C if that isn’t an option or doesn’t work. And yes they’re inadvertently making miscarriages illegal by punishing people that seek miscarriage treatment. Either through charging them with something or just sending them away until they start actively dying. Open your eyes please

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Anonymous #9 11w

“Just like all states” and I’m sure in your endless genius you’ve actually read the legislation in order to know this?

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Anonymous #14 11w

Nope I’ve responded to every single attempt at proof. Anyone can read this thread and see. List any “proof” I haven’t responded to or debunked.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Still being banned and criminalized just the same as surgical abortions, still being denied even when medically necessary due to the laws

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Anonymous #3 11w

“Basic information” and can’t even name one doctor. just admit you can’t. It’s obvious.

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Anonymous #9 11w

No you clearly don’t. An aborted baby in the third trimester IS NOT INHERENTLY STILLBORN. I’m not gonna say it again lol. This is simply fact.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’ve “responded” by saying they aren’t relevant or aren’t real, but anyone who actually read them would see that they’re relevant and anyone who did even the 🤏 tiniest bit of research would see that they’re real.

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Anonymous #22 11w

They literally aren’t. If they are the same, why is one banned and the other is not? What is the difference? This is fearmongering. Miscarriage treatment is not banned by abortion laws. Therefore if it isn’t provided it is not due to abortion laws.

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Anonymous #26 11w

List a single state where ectopic pregnancy treatment is illegal. (Hint: there aren’t any)

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Anonymous #14 11w

Yes, abortions that kill humans are banned and criminalized. Miscarriage treatment is not. As I’ve explained numerous times, abortion is never medically necessary.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Oh no I’ve addressed every case as very much real. The issue is “I’m going to prove abortion bans cause maternal death by listing cases where the mother didn’t die and no abortion was being sought!” isn’t a great argument

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Anonymous #9 11w

There are times when early delivery aren’t an option and the mom would literally die if she doesn’t get an abortion. This has been medically proven. And the removal of a miscarried fetus or an ectopic pregnancy is literally defined as an abortion. Learn to do some basic research m

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Anonymous #26 11w

Ok, please describe the 3rd trimester abortion procedure.

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Anonymous #9 11w

It’s not a procedure you can just opt into, they don’t give abortions on live fetuses that late. It’s miscarriages followed by abortions if the mom doesn’t pass the fetus

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Anonymous #14 11w

That’s literally not true lol. Early delivery is safer and faster for the mother. Please specify a single example. And no, removal of a miscarried fetus or ectopic pregnancy is not defined as abortion. That’s why they are legal in places where abortion is banned.

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Anonymous #14 11w

…no there is quite literally a 3rd trimester abortion procedure. If you’re talking about miscarriage that’s not an abortion.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Texas and Missouri are two states that have absolutely shit canned access to methotrexate due to labeling it as an abortion pill. It’s the main and first line of treatment for ectopic pregnancies and if access is barred then surgery is required. Would you rather someone be allowed to take a pill or forced to go through surgery? Would you rather them be allowed their pill or have their fallopian tube rupture?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Wow I messed up one word 🙄. When the fetus is dead and you have to get it removed it is called a missed abortion and when you miscarry it is called a spontaneous abortion. That’s why all of those women who miscarried are still important in this conversation. So either way you are wrong. But for fun let’s pretend you weren’t. It’s still none of your business what other women do with their bodies

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Anonymous #9 11w

That’s literally what people have been trying to tell you. Did you really just ask what’s the difference between a D&C and a D&C? What the difference between mifepristone and misoprostol and mifepristone and misoprostol is? The lawmakers have zero medical knowledge so they banned everything with very broad vague definitions and unhelpful exceptions that are keeping doctors from doing their jobs and providing care for miscarriages

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Anonymous #3 11w

No, the process of removing a naturally deceased fetus is not an abortion. Spontaneous abortion, missed abortion etc all refer to the natural process of death happening, not the removal. So you’re not only incorrect but being pedantic, to what end exactly? Miscarriage treatment isn’t banned. Women who miscarried are important but not relevant to a conversation about the results of an abortion ban.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’re a lost cause my keep arguing with the wall even tho everyone has proven you wrong. Just leave women alone and let them do what’s best for them. Jesus what a miserable person you must be

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Anonymous #22 11w

There is no law in either state barring access to ectopic pregnancy care. If there is a deficit then the solution is to fix that, not blame abortion laws.

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Anonymous #14 11w

You just keep regurgitating buzzwords because you have no actual argument to stand on 🤷‍♀️ I’ve spent so much time providing facts and information to educate you. Downvote as much as you want, I don’t mind reposting.

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Anonymous #3 11w

I’m not going to support women killing innocent humans. But sure, I’m the miserable one.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Do you not know the difference between a D&C abortion and a D&C miscarriage treatment?

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Anonymous #22 11w

Hmm, which state banned miscarriage D&C?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Do you base all your morals and empathy on the laws?? The abortion bans directly caused people to not have access to their meds so yes I would definitely saw the law barred access to care. That’s also a med used for arthritis and other similar conditions so they’re interrogating elderly women that have been taking this med for years over it. There’s not a deficit they’re just refusing to give it to the people it’s being prescribed to

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Anonymous #22 11w

Abortion laws do not ban things other than abortion. Therefore, if someone is getting difficulty accessing something that is not an abortion, it cannot be because if abortion laws. The access to meds in your example should totally be fixed, but the solution has nothing to do with changing abortion bans.

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Anonymous #9 11w

D&C is D&C. It’s the same thing. 😐 The only difference is in how people judge others for it and since the bans they’ve been having to call your “D&C miscarriage treatment” an “illegal abortion” until the person is literally septic and dying so I hope you feel good about supporting the preventable infertility and death of women

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Anonymous #22 11w

Ok, so you don’t know the difference. Happy to help. A D&C abortion kills a human. A D&C for miscarriage does not. That is why in some states one is legal and one is not.

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Anonymous #22 11w

Ashley something. Great. Yeah, I’m sure those stories are totally legit.

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Anonymous #9 11w

They are a fetus. It’s none of your business. But I’m glad we finally agree on something I guess. Plus it’s good to admit that kind of stuff

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Anonymous #9 11w

Just because I’m not a psychotic stalker like you and am not going to hunt down these people’s full names doesn’t mean they’re fake. If you’d just listen to what these women have to say you’d see Ashley in the hospital and showing the paperwork she had to fill out. You just like diminishing women. I can’t imagine being so misogynistic hateful and ignorant

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Anonymous #22 11w

You can throw around phrases like misogynistic and hateful, it doesn’t make them true. Bottom line: if women aren’t receiving care for other things, then drs/hospitals need to be held accountable. Abortion should stay banned.

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Anonymous #3 11w

Fetus, newborn, teenager, adult, all human. All humans have human rights.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Sure babe. Whatever you have to tell yourself

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Anonymous #3 11w

Science tells us, but ty for the vote of confidence.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Science is against you babes. So are the scientists but I see you don’t care about actual facts. Have fun making shit up in your head!

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Anonymous #3 11w

What science is against me exactly…?

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Anonymous #9 11w

You are genuinely so repulsive and braindead it’s crazy like I don’t know how can’t see this directly harms women and is almost exclusively perpetuated by old white men that hate women. I seriously hope you or someone you love dearly has to deal with the consequences of this because it’s the only thing that can get you people to wake the fuck up

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Anonymous #22 11w

As a woman, women deserve better than abortion.

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Anonymous #9 11w

By that logic, guys who use condoms are suffocating kids. And girls who have periods, should be in jail for when the unfertilized egg flows out of the body since you flush m the toilet or get thrown away after using a pad or tampon

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Anonymous #22 11w

Most leaders in the movement against abortion are women. Original feminists like Susan B Anthony were against abortion. Roe v Wade was overturned by a SCOTUS that had more women on it than the SCOTUS that instated it.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Science tells us a distinct human life is formed at fertilization. So no, sperm or unfertilized eggs aren’t unique human lives and discarding them is not killing distinct human lives

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Anonymous OP 11w

And yet, here you are

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Anonymous #9 11w

Technically women can get pregnant without sperm. It’s a crazy low chance and a fetus has never made it but if an egg can develop into a fetus on its own then every time you have a period you, by your logic, are murdering your children. What an awful mother

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Anonymous #3 11w

False. Even if it were true, humans passing away from natural causes is not the same as killing them.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Not false. Literally learned that while getting my degrees. Also notice how you completely swerved around my point

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Anonymous #9 11w

pregnancy related deaths have gone up 56% since the abortion ban in texas… so many women lost

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Anonymous #3 11w

?? Wasn’t your point that if someone miscarries early they’re murdering their kid? I’m saying that’s not murder when it happens without intentional killing, by definition

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Anonymous #9 11w

Literally how is that the conclusion you came to. I think I figured out our issue. Your reading comprehension skills need work considering that’s not even close to what I said lmao. Have the day you deserve babes bc this convo is getting us no where

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Anonymous #3 11w

“Every time you have a period you are murdering your children” how else was I supposed to take that

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Anonymous #9 11w

It’s in response to what you said above…. Jesus Christ 🙄

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Anonymous #9 11w

1) false 2) only treatment for ectopic pregnancy is abortion, and has in fact been prevented by abortion bans; maybe not by actual prosecution, but even by the mere threat of prosecution 3) if mom can’t pass miscarriage, abortion is the only way to prevent her death by sepsis 4) the majority of “malpractice” around this is due to fear of prosecution 6) the criminalization of abortion has covered all of them, INCLUDING MISCARRIAGE (because it’s classified as a “spontaneous abortion”)

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Anonymous #3 11w

Right…

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Anonymous #14 11w

I’ve never seen a post so full of lies. 1) It’s true. 2) This is a lie. Treatment for ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. That’s why anti-abortion people are not against ectopic pregnancy treatment and why it is legally available in places that ban abortion. 3) Miscarriage treatment is not an abortion. 4) This is fearmongering. If taking place the solution is education with abortion bans still in place. 6) Abortion bans don’t criminalize miscarriages, you are lying.

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Anonymous #9 11w

https://eji.org/news/georgia-woman-arrested-after-miscarriage-amid-growing-criminalization-of-pregnancy/

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Anonymous #9 11w

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544

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Anonymous #9 11w

One quick Google search and I found 3 women in 3 different states in under 3 minutes who have all been arrested for miscarriages. https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/08/28/ohio-woman-charged-after-miscarriage-adds-more-hospital-staff-to-her-lawsuit/

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Anonymous #14 11w

I already responded to literally all of these debunking them on this post

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Anonymous #9 11w

People have named examples for you and your response has been “I’m sure that’s true”, “Right…”, etc. shut up you twat scum rat fuck bastard. Genuinely.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Where does “science” say this, because this actually sounds awfully close to Bible rhetoric. What science, as a field not an authority, has TAUGHT us, is that we truly do not know when sentience/consciousness begins yet. It says, “we don’t know yet”. Which is literally why abortion is such a hot issue. …That said, it is widely accepted that complex brain structures are needed for these faculties; far more complex than those of a fetus. Thus legality WAS tied to brain development. Was tied to.

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Anonymous #9 11w

I already named Texas you fucking dolt

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Anonymous #26 11w

Oh no, are you mad? 🤭 gotta bring out the big swear words! When you calm down feel free to revisit Texas law, it does not ban treatment for miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy. Barriers to non-abortion treatment should be addressed.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Idk why you’re bringing up religion. The National Institute of Health states that life begins at fertilization. They came to this conclusion after compiling the findings of over 1,000 research institutions globally.

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Anonymous #9 11w

It bans everything with abortion in its name, along with other variations - which include ectopic abortion, the removal of a dead fetus after a miscarriage, and technically miscarriage itself

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Anonymous #26 11w

No, I’ve individually debunked every example. I hope you get the validation you need from swearing at strangers on the internet lol it doesn’t make you any less incorrect tho

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Anonymous #9 11w

A) she was arrested after the ME said it was probably just natural B) I’m not talking about deaths here, just women who are being arrested for having a miscarriage - which makes women less willing to even get pregnant in the first place

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’ve tried to “debunk” them, but your idea of debunking is to completely misunderstand our stance, and then spout studies that have since been solidly disproven, and call us stupid for not seeing how your irrelevant information is relevant to what you’re trying to “debunk”

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Anonymous #9 11w

Several women have been arrested on the same charges for miscarrying on the toilet. What are you supposed to do, snake the whole line and bring your bloodied, dead fetus to the police? It’s a major public health hazard

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Anonymous #14 11w

No it doesn’t 😂 this is such a lie. I think you are hoping your fear mongering will get people on your side, but it’s so easy to fact check you. States explicitly stated in abortion bans that ectopic pregnancy was not included. Name a state that bans ectopic pregnancy treatment (you already know there aren’t any). You lose all credibility when you tell such blatant lies

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Anonymous #14 11w

The reason for her arrest is listed as the drugs found in the baby’s body. If this makes women less willing to do drugs while pregnant I think that’s the reason those laws exist…

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Anonymous #9 11w

No, they ban it because the removal of an ectopic (nonviable) pregnancy is considered abortion. This is not fearmongering, this is educating people whose schools failed them. And just because *some* of the laws have included exemptions for ectopic pregnancies hasn’t stopped prosecutors from bringing doctors and women up on charges for aborting ectopic pregnancies

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Anonymous #14 11w

I haven’t called anyone stupid. I’ve provided science and facts. No one has disproven any data I’ve provided. How odd you’re making up things now.

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Anonymous #9 11w

The MEs (because prosecutors didn’t like the answer the first one gave and had other MEs give an opinion) ALL said the drugs were not the cause, and prosecutors just ignored that so they could arrest her

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Anonymous #9 11w

Just because you either deleted the comment or got downvoted so much it was auto deleted does not change the fact that you called #11 stupid

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Anonymous #14 11w

I haven’t called anyone stupid.

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Anonymous #14 11w

You’re making up lies. Here’s Texas law. You have no excuse now, you are just blatantly lying.

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Anonymous #14 11w

Hmm who specifically? I’ve noticed there’s always more to the story from the examples you’ve shared. But to be frank, I don’t think this is about extreme examples for you. Do you support abortion for any reason for the whole pregnancy? If yes, idk why you’re fixating on these (often fake or twisted) fringe examples

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Anonymous #14 11w

I’d just stop arguing with them. They obviously have no intent on having an actual debate. They’ve been proven wrong time and time again and just keep saying Nuh uh. They are too ignorant to learn so I’d just let this die

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Anonymous #14 11w

This is up for debate but let’s say for the sake of argument that you’re correct. In this case they ALL should be held accountable and Brittney should get justice. That is the solution. Not repealing abortion laws.

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Anonymous #9 11w

no it’s making people aware of the effects of taking away a form of healthcare. it’s a stat that speaks for itself. why don’t you car for women?

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Anonymous #3 11w

I notice you always chime in when it’s time for evidence to try to explain away your lack of it. I’ve responded to every claim at face value using only science and facts. Just because you can’t back up your statements doesn’t mean no one else can.

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Anonymous #9 11w

you are just so wrong and condescending

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Anonymous #6 11w

What specifically do you think I’m wrong about? As a woman I care for women deeply, especially knowing we deserve far better than abortion

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Anonymous #9 11w

Girl I literally don’t give a fuck. People have been handing you information like you’re a toddler and ucan’t keep up. Id just like my phone to stop buzzing due to you running your mouth about stuff you obviously aren’t educated on and when people try you can’t even understand it. I literally couldn’t give two less shits ab you or your dumb opinions. I’d just like to stop having to see these stupid sentences pop up on my phone. Also sorry I can’t be on here 24/7 like you. Some of us are employed

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Anonymous #9 11w

Why do you think ruining someone’s life is ok as long as they’re compensated? These things shouldn’t need to be justified, these people shouldn’t need to receive justice, because these things shouldn’t happen in the first place. Yes, the solution is reinstating roe.

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Anonymous #9 11w

As I also stated, if you could read, I hadn’t checked the law recently. At one point in time, ectopic pregnancies were not covered. Regardless, my point stands. Many Texan doctors still refuse to perform them, for fear of being prosecuted under an obscure loophole, or biased judge/prosecution. People have been arrested for this before, so they fear is justified. Why are we arresting doctors instead of child rapists again? Because roe was overturned. Stupid mf.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Dolt is neither a big word nor a swear you absolute nincompoop. See that’s a long one, still not a swear though.

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Anonymous #9 11w

Why is it your choice to determine what other women perceive as ideal for their own situations? You’re not omnipotent, you’re an uneducated asshole.

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Anonymous #3 11w

That’s a lot of words to say you don’t actually have an argument

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Anonymous #9 11w

“Life” is not “human life”. God you’re dumb. Sperm cells and eggs are alive, and come from humans. They are not human lives. Combining the two does not instantly make a human, it starts a process. That process is called pregnancy. We learned this in what, middle school? Maybe you failed.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Oh no I don’t at all think it’s ok to ruin someone’s life. Thats the thing, the laws put in place also don’t condone ruining someone’s life. So if that law is broken, the only thing you can call for is justice. In future people should not misapply laws. No abortion ban caused this, abortion wasn’t even involved. Abortion should stay banned. Also we shouldn’t ruin people’s lives by misapplying the law.

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Anonymous #26 11w

The unique combination of dna that is created when these two cells combine is most certainly “a life”. It is a genetically unique and prior to unseen organism. However, that life cannot think or feel until significantly along its development. Which is why we do not grant fetuses human rights. Because they are not yet human. An abortion prevents a fetus from becoming a developed human, that is the entire point of the procedure. Don’t say third trimester, we’ve been over that.

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Anonymous #9 11w

You do seem to think that if it saves the fetus. You’re just lying now.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Happy to help bring the law to your attention, but fyi ectopic pregnancy treatment was never banned in Texas. This is baseless fear mongering (I haven’t yet been given a verified example), but if doctors misunderstand a law, the answer is to educate them, not change the law. Roe never should have been instated in the first place, which is why it was so ripe for overturn. If it hadn’t been the law would have already criminalized abortion much earlier

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Anonymous #26 11w

Aw, do you feel better now

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Anonymous #26 11w

What is the lie?

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Anonymous #9 11w

You’ve debunked one example in my case, despite the fact that I prior to mentioned that my info wasn’t up to date. Good job. We’re all proud of you for looking something up, for once. Every other example you think you debunked, was just you saying “you are wrong, I debunk you!” With extra steps. In no world have you disproven a single argument or piece of information in this thread. For excusing some of the most obscene shit going on in this country is acceptable collateral to prevent 1/2

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Anonymous #26 11w

I think you may need to reread the statement? I’ve said several times on this thread that individual human cells are not distinct human lives. Science says that a *distinct human life* is formed at fertilization. It sounds like you already know that.

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Anonymous #26 11w

All humans have human rights. At what point do you think a fetus magically has the right to not be killed? Newborns aren’t fully developed. Preemies aren’t fully developed. Toddlers aren’t fully developed. Adults in comas cannot significantly think or feel. None of these are the basis for human rights. You get human rights by being a human life.

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Anonymous #26 11w

…People from receiving medical care, because your own personal belief conflict with their decisions, it’s very rich for you to play moralist when people call you (fitting and deserved) names. You are a rat, you are scummy, you are a bastard, and you are a fuck. Can’t blame me for telling it how it is.

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Anonymous #9 11w

That’s literally what fetuses upon fertilization are. If you genuinely believe individual human cells without brains do not constitute a human lie then what are we even arguing about? Do you think a fetus means an unborn but developed baby? It’s a much broader term.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Let’s review You said: any cell is unique human life! I debunked: No, according to science only unique human lives are human lives, not random skin cells. You said: Where does science say that?! This is Biblical! I debunked: The NIH synthesizing 1000+ institutions. This is science. 1/2

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Anonymous #26 11w

You said: Abortion is medically necessary! I debunked: Never, and here are 1000 drs who agree w me. You said: But ectopic pregnancy! I debunked: Ectopic pregnancy treatment is lot affected by abortion bans. I could go on. Is it the screenshots that make you believe it? I could include it for the other debunkings

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Anonymous #9 11w

Adults in comas are also routinely pulled off life support for literally the exact same reasons people get abortions lmao. Babies can articulate emotions, so can preemies. This is getting to a point where I’m wondering if you have FES or something, you’re not sane.

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Anonymous #26 11w

FAS*. Autocorrect.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Babies in utero also express emotions. At what point do you think it’s not ok to kill a fetus?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Except the law makers are the ones misapplying laws. Did you know 2 women filed complaints against Texas hospitals after they were denied ectopic pregnancy care (both ended up losing a fallopian tube at the very least) and when HHS said “hey you violated Emtala” Texas then turned around and sued and said “nuh uh. Emtala doesn’t count here”? Abortion bans directly ruined both women’s lives

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Anonymous #9 11w

Making objectively and probably false statements is not debunking anything. Well, well over 1000 doctors have clearly stated that access to abortion as a medical treatment is necessary. Your crackpot morons pale in comparison to the entire rest of the medical world. I do not know what else to tell you. If you hold medical professionals in authority, that should matter to you. But you don’t, you just want your opinion justified by people who you think look smart.

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Anonymous #26 11w

…No, quite literally fetuses and fertilized eggs are biologically different from an individual human skin cell. Science says a distinct human life is present in the former. Fetus is a biological term following embryo, stages you and I both went through. It’s during the fetal stage that we get fingerprints, react to sound, and kick.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Provably* not probably. I hate my phone.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Ectopic pregnancy WAS affected by abortion bans, and it seems at least Texas has since updated their laws. Which is good. But also not enough. And again, it still affects doctors willingness to perform these procedures simply to due to the possibility that someone could argue the pregnancy was actually viable and you’ve committed murder. I’m not explaining this a third time. Read.

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Anonymous #9 11w

I moved on from skin cells a while ago, I even specified stem cells. Please use your eyes. Your mother worked hard to grow them, because at one point you didn’t have eyes, or a brain, because you were a clump of those very stem cells about the size of a grain of rice. You genuinely need like a biology class.

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Anonymous #9 11w

God you’re hopeless

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Anonymous #22 11w

Let’s go over the women in this story. Kyleigh Thurman was misdiagnosed until the window for front line treatment for ectopic pregnancy had elapsed. I fully support her pursuing damages, but this had nothing to do with abortion laws. Kelsie Norris-De La Cruz was also misdiagnosed and delayed treatment from her 2nd OGBYN, she should pursue damages, but this was not caused by abortion bans. The attempt to make malpractice about abortion bans is dishonest, it’s simply lying.

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Anonymous #26 11w

This is what I’m saying, every time you have an opportunity to clarify you just send insults, which don’t bother me but I’m sad for you that you have no capability of defending your position. It must be hard to fight for something you can’t actually stand behind

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Anonymous #9 11w

No no she wasn’t misdiagnosed. Her doctor literally had to travel to the hospital because they refused to believe the OBGYN the first time they said she had an ectopic pregnancy. They knew from the beginning that she had been diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy

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Anonymous #9 11w

Movement is not inherently emotion #1 but even if it did #2 once a baby is fully or mostly formed and is routinely moving it is both immoral and even in many blue states illegal to perform an abortion. 8 month terminations are a myth, I wouldn’t be shocked if you didn’t know that. I would say somewhere around the third trimester is when it becomes ethically questionable, excluding stillbirths. In NY where I live, the limit is 24 weeks, with health exceptions, which I think is fairly sane policy

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Anonymous #26 11w

Stem cells are also not unique human lives. Feel free to check out the NIH if you need to brush up on the science. Fetal eye development begins around 4 weeks into pregnancy. Brain activity starts around week 5-7. So are you against abortion past that point? You still haven’t answered my question about that

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Anonymous #9 11w

And if Texas didn’t want to make “malpractice” about abortion bans then they wouldn’t have sued the federal health department and claimed they don’t have to provide abortions in emergency medical situations. Like that’s truly on them. They’re the ones saying they don’t care if it kills someone they still won’t allow necessary abortions

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Anonymous #26 11w

However, I also am not an expert on pregnancy. I’ve done my research because I want to make sure my future wife is safe comfortable and cared for if/when we have children. But I am not a professional. I don’t think my opinion should determine this.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Planned Parenthood, the largest US abortion provider, is adamant that abortions happen throughout term for a variety of reasons. But it seems like we may have some common ground here! Since you believe 8 month terminations don’t happen, you’d be ok banning them right? Or just after 24 weeks like baseline NY?

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Anonymous #22 11w

If we make a law saying there is a speed limit. And someone refuses to drive because they think the speed limit law means no cars allowed at all. And there is a big disaster because of that decision. Should we eliminate the speed limit, or educate the person who misunderstood the law?

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Anonymous #26 11w

Ok, I can appreciate that. What about the opinion of 1,000 professionals?

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Anonymous #26 11w

Ok, where did 1000 drs state that abortion is medically necessary? I’d love to check that out. Do you seriously think it’s only 1000 that have said it’s not medically necessary? It’s far more, only 1000 have signed this document. If you hold medical professionals in authority, why are you discounting the ones that challenge your view? “Probably false” isn’t good enough bud. Prove the falsehood. “I don’t like it!” Isn’t enough

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Anonymous #9 11w

Try multiple thousands in this country and across the worked speaking on the contrary. You litersllt aren’t reading my posts. Lobotomite behavior.

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Anonymous #26 11w

No, I will not allow 1.1 million people to be murdered every year because you’re worried, on zero substantiated claims, that it may cause some doctors to be misinformed and do something the law does not say to do. Grasping at a few cases that upon further investigation don’t actually hold up. Nope, if you’re worried about people misunderstanding the law then educate them. Bans on killing innocent people aren’t going anywhere.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Hmm what about 3,000 globally? Or do you just not care when they don’t agree with you

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Anonymous #9 11w

Yes I am in favor of banning 8 month abortions with the exception of stillborns. That is not the argument being had today, as they have been and are already illegal. I’ll amend, don’t LEGALLY happen. Whatever back alley clinics do I can’t really speak on I guess. But that’s also outside the scope of this conversation, as again, illegal.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Great news, delivering a stillborn isn’t an abortion. So can we agree Massachusetts’ law is whack? 🤝

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Anonymous #9 11w

This would be more like Texas claiming speed limits and road signs shouldn’t exist and the department of transportation saying hey buddy proper street signs are a required safety measure to keep people from dying you can’t just get rid of those and then Texas stomps its foot and goes nuh uh we don’t need signs when there’s lines on the road! It makes zero sense for them to do that besides a deep indifference about the safety of anyone

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Anonymous #9 11w

Delivering a stillborn is not an abortion, that is correct. Aborting one is, because many mothers quite understandably do not want to go through the physical wnd emotional trauma of going birth to a corpse. You’re just saying words ATP. Which law in specific?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Citation needed and yes I am quite confident more than 3000 doctors agree with me. So no, I don’t care what the vocal often weirdly Christian minority of doctors has to say in any particular fashion.

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Anonymous #26 11w

You can’t abort a stillborn. Abortion by definition needs to start with a live human. Are you familiar with the process of a 3rd trimester abortion? You first kill the human by injection, then induce delivery. When the human is already dead, you just induce delivery. The law in Massachusetts where abortion is legal until birth

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Anonymous #22 11w

In your analogy the street signs seem to be education of existing laws (rather than changing them) so we’d agree

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Anonymous #26 11w

World* not worked. This is my sign to switch to android.

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Anonymous #26 11w

It’s the Dublin Declaration. I get you may imagine thousands of imaginary doctors agree with you. Idk why you’re bringing up religion. You can also see for yourself. Being a doctor doesn’t give you some weird mystical knowledge. Early delivery is always a safer faster option for the mother, rendering abortion not only unnecessary but more dangerous. Anyone can understand this.

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Anonymous #26 11w

Don’t worry I got what you were saying

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Anonymous #26 11w

I got you pookie. Out of 4,240 doctors that were surveyed globally, only 169 of them were of the opinion that abortion should never be allowed. 976 thought it should be allowed for any reason during the 1st and 2nd trimester. 594 are of the opinion that it should be allowed at any point for any reason. Which means 4,071 of those doctors agree that there is very much a level of permissibility with abortions. From an M3 Pulse survey which is a global research organization for medical professionals

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Anonymous #9 11w

If only you could see the irony in your comment but alas you have peanuts for brains. Sorry it must be hard for you living like that :(

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Anonymous #22 11w

I just looked up the study. The majority of the doctors surveyed did not support abortion…86% disagreed with it being allowed at any point for any reason. The study did not ask whether it was ever medically necessary, just whether it should be allowed. It was not disclosed how many respondents are currently making money from providing abortions. Thank you for your help here

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Anonymous #22 11w

Yet another insult rather than addressing the argument, indicating yet again you don’t have one

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Anonymous #3 11w

“They have no intent on having an actual debate” translation: “aw dangit they disprove my points w facts and idk how to respond and that makes me uncomfy!”

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Anonymous #9 11w

Awwwe. Do I have you thinking about something hours after I wrote it? Sounds like someone’s in a tizzy! Anywho I have actual shit to do so have the day you deserve. 👋

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Anonymous #3 11w

That’s a lot of words to say you have no actual response

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Anonymous #3 11w

I heard you, you want your phone to buzz every hour though, I got you! Did you know humans have heartbeats in the first 3-6 weeks?

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Anonymous #9 11w

Babe you just don’t understand what the numbers mean lmfao 💀 14% doesn’t mean the rest don’t support abortion at all. In fact 96% of doctors believe that there are at least some cases in which abortion should be supported. Only 4% think it shouldn’t be supported at all. And it did ask about necessity, that’s what the 8% is. (The largest portion supports 1st and 2nd trimester for any reason btw) Can I go back to sleep now? Like seriously shut up for a few hours please

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Anonymous #32 10w

MAN 🫵🚓🚔📸👮‍♂️🚨❌🙅‍♀️

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Anonymous #9 10w

Literally factually objectively false. An abortion is the removal of a fetus from the womb, regardless of if that fetus is alive, or going to survive postpartum. So you’re back on third trimester abortion, which again, comprise about 10% of abortions, and are typically reserved for stillborns or medical emergencies. I am not going to google “the where abortion is legal until birth” out of respect for myself snd my time. Cite me an actual piece of legislation, and I will look into it.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Fucking fruit flies have brain activity the complexity and nature of that brain activity is what matters. A proto-brain that only regulates organ function is not a developed human brain in any sense of the word. I am staunchly against banning 5-7 week abortions for those reasons, among others.

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Anonymous #26 10w

Let’s stop banning healthcare that isnt our business and has nothing to do with us. Before we ban abortions why not just in crease the resources new parents have access to? They might stop altogether on their own. Let’s make unwanted pregnancies not as life defining for young women without spouses. Maybe fix the world before forcing more children to be born into it in unnecessarily dire circumstances. Other countries give incentives to start families, America will hold you down and force you

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Anonymous #22 10w

Do you think abortion kills an innocent human?

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Anonymous #26 10w

Lies. That’s simply not what abortion is, legally or medically. That’s why miscarriage care etc. is not banned and abortion is. Where are you getting that definition? I already told you Massachusetts just passed this lol. Third trim abortion are not reserved for those scenarios, per abortion providers. Where are you getting your data?

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Anonymous #26 10w

Hang on do you not understand the difference in value between humans and fruit flies

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Anonymous #23 10w

Increasing resources is a great idea. Fully support. Killing innocent people is not healthcare and will always be “our business”

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Anonymous #14 10w

Think you’re confusing me w 26

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Anonymous #9 10w

If a law can be willfully misinterpreted by prosecution to the point doctors are afraid to perform their jobs, the law is the problem. The policy surrounding the overturning of roe was FILLED with vague nonsense language and sweeping definitions that caused real people to die. Your semantics aren’t valid, or appreciated. That’s great, luckily fetuses aren’t yet people. Glad we came to an agreement!

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Anonymous #9 10w

I corrected my typo or “probably” to “provably”. This proves to me that you aren’t reading my posts. Eat shit you illiterate weirdo, I’m done talking to you.

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Anonymous #26 10w

If you don’t answer the questions it’s because you can’t.

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Anonymous #26 10w

The solution would be to correctly interpret the law, not change it. 1.1 million humans are killed by abortion ever year in the US. All of your arguments have been about fringe cases or misunderstandings, but the solution is to understand and keep abortion banned.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Your dumbasses were the ones to change it to begin with like?? This was such a non issue for many decades before dudes that don’t understand the human body and think the female orgasm is a liberal lie decided they wanted to try to make it an issue. I’ve done embryonic and fetal lab research and can promise that petri dish blob is not sentient and shouldn’t have more rights than an autonomous, sentient individual. Give it up brother

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Anonymous #22 10w

A non issue for many decades? It wiped out 1/3 of my generation. It was a genocide. Sentience is an arbitrary criteria to grant human rights. No. All humans have inherent human rights.

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Anonymous #9 10w

✋

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Anonymous #9 10w

Burden of proof is on the accuser. You are the one making accusations. I have fully accepted this data exists, and also fully acknowledged that 1000 doctors is enough to staff one major city hospital. I do not GAF. I do not need to disprove your claim, because your claim itself is trying to refute commonly accepted medical science. Go home.

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Anonymous #26 10w

Is abortion killing an innocent human life?

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Anonymous #22 10w

The female orgasm was actually a myth constructed by big pharma in order to sell rhino pills in gas stations. Come on guys, we all know this.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Nah man, those fetuses get up to some bad shit in there, they are NOT innocent. The fentanyl crisis? Yeah. That’s them. Let that sink in.

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Anonymous #26 10w

Shhh I’m getting paid in rhino pills to make sure this doesn’t get out. Don’t blow my cover now

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Anonymous #26 10w

Lmao even worse. You’ve been self admittedly full of typos this entire time, I’ve looked past them. Me asking you to provide proof works even better for provably instead of probably. Go on time to prove!

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Anonymous #26 10w

Did you know babies in utero have their hair color, eye color and gender mapped out at the moment of fertilization?

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Anonymous #9 10w

This mf just learned what dna is 😭

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Anonymous #9 10w

Your reading comprehension is worse than my 6yr old special ed niece and I’m not even kidding.

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Anonymous #26 10w

Is abortion killing an innocent human life? Yes or no

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Anonymous #14 10w

not true

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Anonymous #26 10w

Yep! That’s how you know the human in utero isn’t “part of the mother.” Entirely unique DNA. Did you know there’s a heartbeat 3 weeks after fertilization?

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Anonymous #9 10w

I already told you, no. Did you know fetuses were responsible for 9/11? There is no innocence in those hellbeasts. They only become human, and by proxy sane, by exposure to air during birth. Genuinely how are you asking this as a red blooded patriotic American? SMH.

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Anonymous #26 10w

“Kill: to end the life of a person, animal, or other living organism”. Human fetus = human. By definition, abortion kills an innocent human.

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Anonymous #9 10w

We’ve been over this, friend. Did you know Hitler was once a fetus? Enough said.

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Anonymous #26 10w

No, we haven’t. Every human in existence was once a fetus. MLK Jr., Malala, Mother Teresa, Barack Obama. What’s your point? Plz explain how abortion doesn’t kill an innocent human, because the basic definition says it does

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Anonymous #9 10w

how dense are you holy shit

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Anonymous #2 10w

Looking through the thread I’d say they’re somewhere between iridium and osmium

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Anonymous #2 10w

“Wahhhh I can’t defend my point so I’m going to hurl insults and hope no one notices wahhhh”

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Anonymous #22 10w

Oo so glad you read it. Happy to educate you.

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Anonymous #9 10w

i've been reading this thread for days. 26 and 14 got your ass good, you're just actually too stupid to take any of it in

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Anonymous #2 10w

You might share their point of view so you are convincing yourself of that, but point for point they have not a single thing to stand on. I get that trying to gaslight people feels good for you, though.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Omg wait you’re the person that said I didn’t know about women’s health, then couldn’t name a single thing 😂 yeah it makes sense you find 26 convincing, meandering around assumptions, zero data, random talk about female orgasms, this makes complete sense. Btw science says abortion kills a distinct, innocent human life! Happy to help.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Man I really wish I could experience being as deluded and unempathetic as people like you for just one day. It’s gotta feel so freeing to just gobble up whatever propaganda the capital overlords pump out so you don’t have to think and then act like you’re oppressed when rights exist that don’t apply to you because you don’t have any real problems. Like genuinely being stupid has got to be so much fun sometimes

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Anonymous #22 10w

It’s honestly wild how you think throwing insults around somehow constitutes an argument. Abortion kills an innocent human life. You can’t disprove that, so you waste a lot of characters saying nonsense. It doesn’t change the facts.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Here’s the thing babe. I truly could not give a single fuck what this supposed “innocent human life” thinks or feels because it does not think nor does it feel during the point of development that abortions happen. What I care about are the actual living, thinking, feeling people that are forced into carrying one around for 9 months when they don’t want or can’t care for it once it becomes its own autonomous being. That only leads to actual children having to suffer from day one

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Anonymous #9 10w

Ehhhhh idk I think MLK jr was produced by budding like that SpongeBob episode but that’s just my theory. Mother Theresa was grown on the vine though, everyone knows this.

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Anonymous #23 10w

Funding planned parenthood seems to equal terrorism under this admin. It’s not like people haven’t tried, aren’t still trying. Shit’s not easy with the citrus at helm.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Well, first of all, fruit flies can fly. They’re also made of fruit. Humans don’t check either of those boxes, so… I think they have us beat.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Yeah you would post a google AI summary as a gotcha. It’s not by the way, stop outsourcing your brain.

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Anonymous #26 10w

I explained this to you in my own words multiple times and you refused to accept it. Now I’m showing you how easy this info is to access. The simplest Google

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Anonymous #22 10w

Killing humans is not an acceptable solution. It’s really that simple.

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Anonymous #9 10w

The Bible allows for killing in self-defense or defense of someone who cannot defend themselves as morally acceptable. So abortion if both mom and baby would otherwise die is acceptable according to the Bible’s standards.

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Anonymous #9 10w

Your words have been repeatedly disparaged and disproven my multiple people using reputable sources and commonly known public information. For contrast, earlier in this thread, you admitted to only having recently learned how DNA works. Your words aren’t valuable and I don’t care.

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Anonymous #26 10w

THISSSS

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Anonymous #26 10w

More lies. Not a single sentence of what you just wrote is true 😂 At this point I have to believe you know you’re lying and hoping that continuing to convince yourself will somehow work out. The evidence is there for anyone reading the thread and I am happy to repost.

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Anonymous #9 10w

says the one citing zero sources but the google AI overview

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Anonymous #14 10w

We’ve been over this, if there’s a risk of death early delivery ends the pregnancy in a safer and faster procedure for the mother and gives the baby a chance at life. The Bible does not support this but idk why you’re even bringing it up. Do you think our laws should be based on the Bible now?

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Anonymous #2 10w

I’ve cited the NIH, which compiled the conclusions of more than 1,000 institutions globally. The summary included the CDC, KFF, and NY’s literal law. What did you cite again tho…?

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Anonymous #9 9w

3. Stories of medical malpractice, miscarriage etc. are important and require doctor accountability, not changes to abortion laws. 4. A distinct human life is formed at fertilization. 5. Legality of abortion = exclusively induced abortion. No one is debating the legality of other “abortions.”

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Anonymous #9 9w

To correct the liar (we’ve provided proof earlier): ectopic pregnancy treatment is abortion, as is the removal of the dead fetus after miscarriage, both of which are medically necessary. The medical malpractice around abortion is almost exclusively a result of anti abortion laws making doctors fear jail so they refuse to provide care. The Bible doesn’t count a baby or fetus as life until birth, nor do laws And the banning of abortion has effected all procedures classified as abortion

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Anonymous #9 9w

“Numerous hospitals and doctors have mistakenly refused appropriate care out of fear of prosecution, leading to patient lawsuits against facilities”

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Anonymous #14 9w

It’s been proven over and over again that ectopic pregnancy treatment is not abortion. This is why it’s legal in states with strict abortion bans. Anyone can look this up for themselves. You repeating lies does not make them true. Literally, anyone reading this, do a basic search. You have zero evidence around the malpractice claim but frankly it’s irrelevant. The solution is to prosecute & prevent malpractice, not to change irrelevant laws. Your Bible claim is false but irrelevant.

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Anonymous #14 9w

No, the banning of abortion has not affected other “abortions” aka spontaneous abortion.

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Anonymous #14 9w

Name a case. I’ve explained so many for you. Information and education is important.

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Anonymous #14 9w

“The medical procedures for ending a pregnancy in the uterus (AKA abortion) are different from the medical procedures for terminating an ectopic pregnancy.” - Planned Parenthood

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Anonymous #14 9w

Oh btw idk why you’re bringing the Bible up but science is clear that a distinct human life is formed at fertilization.

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Anonymous #9 9w

You should’ve been aborted ong

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Anonymous #9 9w

Brother it’s been like 2 weeks. Are you okay? Do you have anyone in your life? Do you know love? This is actually crazy sad behavior like pathological to still be this worked up

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Anonymous #22 9w

Yes thanks for checking 💕 what brings you back to post here? For me it’s the 1 million+ humans that can’t advocate for themselves, and the fact that most people become anti-abortion through education.

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Anonymous #26 9w

Classic “pro-choice” comment

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Anonymous #9 9w

I am pro-removing-choice-from-people-who seek-to-rescind-the-privileges-and-rights-of-others-based-on-pseudoscience, actually. But nice virtue signal.

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Anonymous #26 9w

The choice to do what specially? What pseudoscience? If you mean the choice to kill innocent humans, yeah, no. Also “pseudoscience” doesn’t mean “science I don’t like”

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Anonymous #22 9w

Right? Like Jesus let’s get a life bc this shit is so sad and embarrassing

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Anonymous #3 9w

Oh hey it’s the person that tried to make a claim that 1,000 doctors had said was incorrect. I hope this comment feels better for you than losing that argument did

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Anonymous #9 9w

I never lost an argument. You’re just clinically obsessed and weird asf

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Anonymous #9 9w

Yeah, the non-pseudo science you don’t like states that fetuses are not sentient upon conception. Hope this helps.

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Anonymous #26 9w

So sentience is not what determines human rights, not sure where you got that. Humans have human rights because they’re human. Though by your criteria, I’m happy you agree late term abortions are unacceptable, since fetuses are sentient then.

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Anonymous #3 9w

The receipts speak for themselves 😊 you’re still welcome to try to substantiate any of your claims tho

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Anonymous #9 9w

Several people have given you hard facts. I’m not interested in your “Nuh uh!” Games. I was responding to #22 bc I agree that this behavior is concerning lowkey

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Anonymous #3 9w

Name a fact 😂 you are just repeating lies. To recap you tried to expand the definition of abortion on this thread and I provided the science & facts clarifying. It seems like you just want to call anything disproving you “nuh uh!” The chat speaks for itself. Also I hope you learned how to manage notifications 😉

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Anonymous #9 9w

Babes you need clinical help omg

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Anonymous #3 9w

Alrighty. Readers plz refer to the facts stated above. This person has just crashed out for weeks due to no actual defense.

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Anonymous #9 9w

I crashed out? Lmao. Seriously tho good luck with whatever this is…. Have a good night!

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Anonymous #3 9w

Yes! Thanks you too. Reminder all humans have human rights.

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Anonymous #9 9w

What brought me back is I’m at the bar surrounded by my beautiful incredible friends and your dumb ass decided to say some more dumb shit so absurd garbage popped up while we were taking pictures so. Maybe go get some friends and touch grass babes. I’m going back to drinking though so have an awful night pooks 😘

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Anonymous #22 9w

…you definitely convinced me with a paragraph you’re having a great time 😅 I hope posting that felt better than getting your claims debunked

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