
seeing the fucking billboards or whatever the fuck of her naked displayed infront of everyone while queer people , especially educators are being fired from their jobs for having pictures of their partners where kids can see them, and artistic expressions of queerness like drag continue to be discriminated against because it’s “inappropriate for children” fills me with an indescribable rage
I'm a girl and I honestly don't see a problem with her ad. It's not like we don't have only fans thrown at our face everyday thru tiktok & insta. I mean it's literally her brand that's how she makes money. Also I doubt she cares any of y'all r upset? Idk u guys like to praise certain only fans stars n ex strippers for going against the patriarchy but get mad at this..
Every time she does a commercial it’s so problematic. This one really hits closer to home because I’m studying to work in the sports industry, and her ad made it seem like this how women should be represented in sports. Regardless that I was about sports betting, it’s still disgusting
But isn’t being naked or half naked inherently sexual? Genuine question. Bc I’ve asked some people this trying to get an answer and my coworkers and some of my friends get defensive. I don’t dress religiously or anything, but at the same time I don’t have the same material quantity as a napkin for clothes when I go out. I’d say I’m middle of the road? Normal?
I js think personally because everyone’s views are different ofc but dressing half naked or no clothes at all posting on social media is having no self respect for urself yk and that is ur digital footprint i js think mixing sexualizing woman which shouldn’t happen at all but using it in a sports ad gives men more leave way to over sexualize woman
I don’t think that’s the point at all. Sexualizing yourself is a right everyone has but trying to pander to little boys with her body while rallying behind the kkkmaga party is very telling. A party that pretends to advocate for children so they argue against LGBTQ+ rights mind you. If the question is what we want maybe she could drop the racism.
Eh that’s a double edged argument. Anybody can sexualize themselves everyone has a right to whether it’s publicly or just online it’s not a green light for men to strip women with their eyes just because one woman is exposing herself. I wouldn’t say she’s setting women and more specifically women in sports back for exposing herself either. Her main problem are her political views mixed with her overly sexualizing herself IMO. It’s the message her body is sending mixed with what she advocates for
I get what you’re saying but how’s is this not ok, but the art pictures of naked girls or provocative paintings / photos or videos is ok? Is it because one is for the boys and the other is for the women? I’m being carpet bombed here in this chat so I’m curious how many down votes I get for this question…
THANK YOU. I get what you’re saying. Where we split is the nature of being naked as a human being passed the age of childhood as being inherently sexual. I get if you’re being naked for breast cancer vs being naked to sell soap (DISGUSTING BTW) but I think being naked in any way is sexual and we’ve become so accepting and desensitized to it. To where when some does anything naked, we look based it’s sexual nature and look at what it’s promoting as its justification to being naked
Genuinely though, it’s 100% what she’s promoting. Despite some of the people under this thread not putting it into a way you can understand the main reason of why people don’t like her is because she’s an evil bigot. People saying it’s sexualizing women’s bodies didn’t care when Madonna posed naked or cardi B saying it pushes back women in the music industry. It’s just cause she’s a racist loser and that’s okay.
theres a lot of nuances that get ignored when it comes to empowerment and demeaning. part of me believes its partially bandwagon(shes empowered directly by the fact that she is being hated on), the other part is also peoples sense of political justice. everybody thinks they know everything, but were only limited to our perception. sydney sweeney, however, is a shitty capitalist using herself for money(considered unethical according to khant theory). its believed to come at a cost to women
I personally never said her putting herself on display harms women. Her body her choice. It’s the fact that her political beliefs go AGAINST your body your choice and this freedom of expression you’re saying she should have without backlash. People aren’t gonna like it when you tell them they shouldn’t have or don’t deserve certain rights to do as they please but you can do just that. Yes her political beliefs are an important factor. No you can’t rally behind the oppression of women & be naked.
But many celebrities do naked and grotesque things like this and don’t get hate? Is it because of her political beliefs that she’s getting this much hate and scrutiny? I’m not a supporter of her by any means, I just don’t understand the argument of how this is a problem when so many other celebrities do as weird or weirder things and don’t get heat for it, but praise. While Sydney gets heat and no praise from the girls??
JEALOUS? most girls have tits and ass it isnt about jealousy , its about her sexualizing things that dont need to be. Sports for example, the idea of women in sports being a naked woman with footballs covering her tits is dehumanizing. Shes allowed to sexualize herself but shes doing it in a way that appeals to men and diminishes women and the things women have fought for. women in sports isnt a naked woman in a unskippablr ad, women in sports are the many women who fought for the right to play.
The way this isn’t true at all and it’s disgusting how you guys immediately think it’s over for women in sports in general just because of this. Sydney Sweeney isn’t a professional player. It would be different if Sarena Williams did something like this but it isn’t. Sydney Sweeney is a rando. Men are gonna view women in sports a certain way whether Sydney is reaching for a bag or not. This doesn’t ruin women in sports for normal people stop acting like feminism has crumbled because of one girl
How the hell did she rally behind MAGA? The only relation I see her having towards MAGA is having family members who are in MAGA, how exactly is that her fault? And you could argue that soooooo many female celebs “pander” to men/boys just for being overtly sexual, but if SHE chooses to be a sexual icon WHY is that an issue??? Seriously why??? She can’t chose to be sexual now if she wants to do it for her personal gain?? You sound hypocritical!
Honest question here girl, not trying to attack. But what about cardi B then? What do you have to say about that? Shes talking about stuff that boys shouldn’t hear yet it was blasted for MONTHS. You know how hard it was to try and navigate this in my house with my family when my brother discovered this from girls blasting this at their school and dancing in his face? He’s too innocent and young to be expose to this much this fast… he was in middle btw…
Last time I checked, Sweeny isn’t even an athlete herself- she’s an actress and a sexual icon. I would see your point if Angel Reese or Serena Williams used their sexuality- other than their sport talent to be at the forefront but that ain’t that. If she wants to portray herself as sexy it shouldn’t be an issue, and you can still have tits and ass and feel jealous, if every girl looked like Sydney Sweeney this wouldn’t even be an issue LOL
Her not defending herself from racist allegations when given the chance mixed with growing up in a maga based family environment AND associating with MAGAs to the point where her black costar refuses to be seen with her in the media is the clearest indication she supports maga. You are what you eat sorry? Again I personally don’t think her sexualizing herself is an issue it’s that mixed with her political views that’s an issue.
The way you’re asking me this makes it seem like you genuinely don’t understand what it is I’m telling you. Yeah you can’t make a bag flaunting your womanhood then rally behind men bringing women down and going against their rights to the same thing or whatever they wanna do. There’s no “who’s allowed” to do what it’s the fact that she’s a disgusting human and a walking hypocrite. Yeah women are allowed to not like her.
The point is that women is sports have been trying for years to gain the same respect as men for the same athletic capabilities. The WNBA does not have the same recognition as the NBA for this exact reason. Instead of Sydney taking the opportunity to showcase her athletic abilities she is casted for a role that causes her to monetize her sexual appeal rather than highlight her other accomplishments pushing the narrative that women are just purely an object for men’s sexual desires.
This is what happens, I’m trying to have a honest conversation with another girl and she gets mad at me. I’m just trying to understand the argument and reason why us girls find this ad a problem. I say it’s bc she’s preying on the vulnerability of both young and older men. The girls say fuck men, she’s set us back 100 years… I ask why then I get shit on for asking… I’m trying to figure out what you’re saying. That’s all babe…
Aye man, if I’m not racist, I’m not gonna address shit or apologize for shit. And if my family supports Trump, that shit don’t have NOTHING to do w me! Y’all are in psychosis and who knows, Zendaya probably didn’t wanna associate herself not bc she’s allegedly “MAGA” but bc if weirdos like you who crucify ppl at the INKLING that they’re maga! It’s insane!
From what I’m reading, she’s a republican. You’re saying the reps do not support women (I’m using a blanket bc there’s a lot to that, I get it and see it and understand it). She both promotes and supports reps, and does so with her body. Yes or no, are you saying that bc she both promotes and supports reps, that THATS the issue here?
Yeah I think your issue is the way you’re asking. It sounds condescending and that you’re alluding to having a ready argument to water down the perspective. if you’re seeing a pattern of people starting off calm with you then after asking your question suddenly the demeanor changes try another way of confirmation lol? Cause the “babe” also doesn’t help if I’ll be honest.
“If I’m not racist I’m not gonna just say I’m not racist” LOL? Again all she really had to do was say “no” and nobody would care. It’s the fact that you genuinely think having no comment is always the proper way to handling conflict and that’s just not the case. Maybe it is in Lala land but in the real world some things really just are as simple as a yes or no. I doubt zendaya would care if the people she posed with just had a history of controversy that comes with the job.
there’s no reason to bring this up at all since this post isn’t about lindsay clancy or that case. that’s a entire different topic entirely. one is about postpartum depression and the other is having an actress monetizing her body and sexualizing woman’s sports and sports in general. Women athletes work their asses off in their field and also to be taken seriously. to have an actress who only cares about flaunting their boobs to showcase sports is a slap in the face.
I don’t think most of us find sydney appealing at all. None of us want to be like her. She is ogled at by men because of her boobs and butt, and none of us want that kind of sexual attention. It’s gross. She’s also either racist, lacks the brain cells to realize she’s participating in racism, or just doesn’t care. that’s not admirable at all.
thats part of what im saying. theres a lot of double standards when it comes to this sort of thing, ultimately coming down to what the public collectively believes is true and what might earn more money. i think intention does play a role in the ethics of either side of this argument, but ultimately we dont know why sydney sweeney makes the decisions she makes because she has a PR team to make her opinions sound ambiguous. she dont got the spine to do something empowering so people fill the gaps
however, thats why i dont fw. i hate capitalists. capitalism is unethical because it requires using people as a means to an end, something people know sydney sweeney is doing. it bothers me that the same sentiment isnt held for people like sabrina carpenter or some notably famous sex workers; people who dont value the art in what they do, using themselves to perpetuate certain issues and prioritizing income. i dont think it sets women back tho these people are theyre own evil breed in capitalism
I sympathize with everyone in that situation, which is how people “support” her—they respect that she had a serious condition & that her doctor(s) didn’t take it seriously, and it resulted in this. not supporting her means condemning her as though she did it on purpose, or acting like she’s a permanently dangerous person when she just had a severely dangerous condition
you do realize that no one in the case was arguing whether or not she did it right? the purpose of the court case was to determine if she was of sound enough mind to knowingly carry out the murders. even if they determine that she wasn’t of sound mind at the time of the murders she’s not going free she’ll just be in a state psych institution rather than jail. her and her ex husband’s civil lawsuits against her medical providers give a lot of context to what she was going through at the time
I just reject the premise of your example, as I doubt Sauron had an easily-treatable mental illness, and iirc he did what he did because he chose to. people with mental illness don’t choose to be volatile, and Sauron’s treatment—along with mass shooters with untreatable illnesses—would involve being incarcerated for safety reasons. someone with a treatable condition—especially a temporary one—shouldn’t be incarcerated for actions they didn’t choose, unless incarceration is part of treatment
she’s sexualizing women in sports, how women are seen in sports, etc. female athletes already have a hard time being taken seriously as a whole so having someone go on the screen and instead of using their star power to empower how people see female athletes, they decided to sexualize it.
Imagine being so dumb. This campaign was meant to appreciate the female athletic form in a time where being muscular was considered ugly. It’s showing off the body these women worked hard for and it promotes those bodies being seen as feminine regardless. Sydney was born with her body and the goal of HER ad was simply to convince young men to gamble. Similarity in action ≠ similarity in intent.
You’re a moron. You equated the two and attempted to paint it as if the situation was the same with the only difference being the fact that Sydney is in one. I’m not illiterate for focusing in on the reply with the photographs in question to actually bring context as to why both situations are different. Just say that you’re a dumbass and leaveeee.
queer people are often treated as “inappropriate for children” just for existing, it’s a pretty common piece of homophobic rhetoric meant to excuse adult’s discomfort around queer people & to pretend that kids who are accepting/queer themselves “just don’t know better” and shouldn’t explore those topics (as though adolescence isnt inherently about self-exploration)
The clothing she wears or doesn’t wear isn’t the problem it’s the her actions. She originally marketed herself as someone who doesn’t want to be sexualized in the media but now that she realized she can pander to men who want to see her boobs she sells soap with her bath water in it. She literally went from telling people she wants to be seen as a person to selling herself as a product.
Fr like you’re telling me her husband NEVER noticed that she was acting differently? He NEVER paid attention enough to his LIFE PARTNER to notice her mental health plummeting? Obviously she holds some amount of responsibility and her actions have consequences but everyone acts like she’s the devil and that nobody but her could’ve prevented this.
Obviously it’s not normal. Her circumstances rewired her brain chemistry to make her act abnormally. Nobody murders their kids because they want to. She had a voice in her head telling her they were better off not living in this world and she probably fought that voice for a WHILE before it wore her down.
It’s a pretty common opinion to think that queer people can’t be teachers. People view queer people as inherently sexual and so they see their existence around children as predatory. (Even though the people they should statistically be most afraid of around children are grown men in positions of power)
It’s the fact that she’s a raging hypocrite who sold herself out the second she realized how much money being naked and skinny makes. She originally told people not to sexualize her, that she wanted to be more than a body to people. And then she folded and started selling products made to sexualize her and being nothing BUT a sex icon after arguing against women being objectified in her early career. Women succeeding is good, women succeeding by throwing all women under the bus is bad.
yep! and that’s where the problem lies. the same people who spread that rhetoric that ruins careers and lives because they think our existence is inherently sexual are getting their dicks hard over plastering Sydney Sweeney naked for any child to see. the problem is not her choice to be nude, the problem is the malicious hypocrisy of the situation
I think the main thing that’s pissing people off is the idea that nudity is sexual in nature. Nudity is the baseline of the human form, being nude at the doctors, partially nude at a piercing appointment or tattoo appointment, as a model for a drawing class, even for other ads where they are showing off the physique of athletes. None of those are inherently sexual because they are focused on celebrating the human body or learning from it.
You’re blind as shit. It’s not just average women that are upset with this sexual objectification. Women in sports perceive this as degrading… sport sponsors get greedy by sexualizing both women and men. Instead of capturing them in their sports attire. There’s no reason for her to expose her ass and partial breasts for sponsorships. It’s called having self respect for your autonomy you fucking weirdo.
i’m an openly queer teacher, even in one of the most progressive states in the country i still encounter issues. one of the other queer teachers i know has had to deal with horrific accusations against him (from parents, not students) simply because he’s gay and his students like him. it’s fucked
I’m not missing the point at all?? I’m simply going back to the bases which is your argument? U literally equated the two as if they are the same, of course I waited until I saw your “proof” to explain the context to negate the false equivalence entirely. This has nothing to do with the other person?? This might be ur first argument so I’m just gonna believe you genuinely just got confused on how this works.😭😭😭
okay think whatever u want ur arguing for a defense i wasn’t even talking about i wasn’t having the conversation with you???? it was an A and B conversation you can C yourself out ! literally wasn’t even talking to u. the whole argument ur trying to make is not even true i wasn’t talking to u. goodnight fuck face
well no i have no idea who that is but i may very well hate that too. also no not every model does that. real runway models do not do that. instagram model sure, and i dont support that either but almost none are at the level sydney is at. also she is not a model she is an actress.
It’s all in comparison about the worth of someone’s dollar compared to yours. You hate on a girl because the way she makes her dollar “makes us all look like idiots” but a dollar is a dollar who cares how she makes her money if it’s all worth the same. That’s my point. A Teachers dollar is the same as an OF Girl and the same as an illegal and the same as yours. They are all worth the same amount no matter how it is made so why hate on one based off of the work done to earn it?
So u see no problem promoting two very addicting things to vulnerable people and children? Stfu ur not an actual girls girl. You can be a feminist and still call out women who make bad decisions that’s the point of feminism actually. Call out people who are bad no matter the gender
Her husband being so uninvolved in his wife’s mental healthcare indirectly killed those kids. He only went to ONE appointment, at which he said “my wife isn’t bipolar” to the psychologist saying she might be bipolar. How do you hear “I might hurt the kids” and continue to let them even be in the same room as her? She may have killed them, but he could have done more to protect them.
Because a lot of the time, women get treated properly before it becomes a massive issue. Also, PPP is rare. It only impacts about 3% of new mothers. And nobody is saying “she shouldn’t be held responsible” you guys seem to think that pleading insanity means she gets to go home and eat ice cream. Pleading insanity means she gets put in a mental facility on suicide watch and heavily medicated, likely for the majority or the rest of her life.