Anonymous OP 13w

we need to start putting more men in jail fr for that that’s some bs

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Anonymous #1 13w

“It’s not all men” but 99% of rapes are done by men.

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It’s kinda makes sense tho why most aren’t in jail it’s bc what girl would want to sit thru trial and be demeaned the whole time and risk being re traumatized especially with this justice system

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It’s literally fucking disgusting. And these are all reported cases, imagine what the statistics would look like if everybody were able to report it?

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Anonymous #4 13w

and obviously i don’t think it’s LITERALLY all men. but when they try to derail the convo by saying it’s not every guy, it just shows their lack of understanding of the issue 😭

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Anonymous #6 13w

(Only 2 people involved were ever prosecuted and the names of the others were never released to the public because a couple of “poor little” low lives started ending their shit over the possibility of being exposed) so yeah this plus the mishandling Epstein and that pedophilia study done in Australia has really altered my perspective when it comes to men in leadership

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over 99% of women btw

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dude, this is girl talk idk why u came on here tryna start shit w us 😭

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Give me a detailed answer on why saying “all men” physically harms men in any way shape or form. Bc it doesn’t do shit and it’s not that deep

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Idgaf if centrists dislike me. I don’t want them to like me anyways

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I think it’s reasonable to be radical about to fact that 91% of victims of rape are women and 99% of rapists are men

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Huh??? 😭😭😭

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Hating men is a completely reasonable reaction to this

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Anonymous #6 13w

(Mind you this isn’t something you can just stumble into on the internet, they had a 3 step verification system in which they had to share a video of a woman they took unconsensually, these videos had these men’s wives, their mothers, their coworkers and even their children/babies, there was at least one victim death tied to this as one of the leaders blackmailed her into lighting herself on fire in front of a police station, many of the victims were being gang stalked and raped by this group)

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Didn’t you just do that to Israelis like what 😭😭😭😭 like look I’m pro Palestine but you just did the exact thing you’re getting mad at me about lmao

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And and a majority of those people were also MEN. Hello????

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That doesn’t change the fact that this is a problem among men

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You also blamed most rapes in Europe on “foreigners” which is racist as fuck lmao

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u gotta be rage baiting atp bc what the hell is there to argue about when talking about rape 😭 get help

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We didn’t have rape kits until the 70’s and they weren’t common in use until the 80s proving a SA/rape before then was much more difficult than it is now, (if we would actually test these kits instead of letting thousands of them sit in storage every year we’d be in a much better position) and also child sex abuse material wasn’t banned until ‘78, both the invention and advocacy was thanks to 2nd wave “sexual revolution” feminists, acting like every feminist is some israeli cia operative -

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Anonymous #6 13w

-is bat shit

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Anonymous OP 13w

91*

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This doesn’t make sense considering Israel hate those countries and would take any chance to demonize and destroy them. You’re not even making any sense

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Anonymous OP 13w

why is #3 going on about israel i’m crying 😭

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Me when I don’t realize that women’s safety is more important topic than hurting men’s feelings on the internet 😞 because I need to be the one who is oppressed even though all of history says the opposite and I’m afraid women will treat me now the way men treated them before

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Anonymous #9 13w

Im so sorry

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Anonymous #10 13w

Don’t apologize, u did nothing. I should be hearing it from the person that did the harm but I never will :((

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Anonymous #9 13w

That’s horrible im sorry, you deserve justice. I hope one day our government takes this crime seriously

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Anonymous #6 13w

I did get justice. I’m VERY lucky that my detective took action and knew EXACTLY what I went through. She was my #1 supporter since day one. He doesn’t get out of prison till 2040!

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Anonymous #4 13w

Dang they blocked me I wanted them to explain themselves ☠️

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i agree. i don’t like this post. it’s good to bring awareness, but not to “hating men.” sexual assault in general is just terrible. we hate BAD PEOPLE, not men.

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Anonymous #8 13w

i feel like we should focus on justice and medical and mental help rather than pointing fingers and spreading hate. i have experienced sexual assault but i disagree with the victimizing. while something happened to me, it doesn't mean im helpless and insignificant, or that all men are evil. we have to focus on resources and not spreading stigmas

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Anonymous #7 13w

so many survivors are told their experience is no big deal & to get over it. its the worst.

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in the same way men perpetuate majority of murders they perpetuate majority of rapes. acknowledging the global condition of women does not equate to “spreading stigmas.” why can’t women talk about FACTS without a bird saying “not all men are evil🥺” I PROMISE they don’t need that from you.

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Anonymous #8 13w

I promise you they’ll be okay

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where do you see any comment encompassing all men anything on this post bird 🙄 men are MAJORITY PERPETRATORS OF VIOLENT CRIME AND THEY DON’T NEED YOUR DEFENSE.

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point out a blanket statement that’s been made under this post bird.

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na screenshot it and repost it

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Anonymous #5 13w

someone also said hating all men is an acceptance response

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Anonymous #12 13w

waiting on a screenshot

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Anonymous #9 13w

exactly. and honestly i’ve never been an i hate men person but after i too got raped, i’ve seen things differently. and men always wanna try to defend themselves when victims say that, but they’re completely missing the point. “i hate men” is said out of frustration with men in general because of all the shit they have put us through. and it’s valid to feel that way

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i said it wasn’t literal but okay 😭

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okay then. case closed

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Critiquing a rape victim for their response to their assault even after a million disclaimers more than the men that try and shut women up for talking about these issues is exactly why nothing will ever change 😪

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Anonymous #6 13w

^^ ty for saying this. they just want to find a way to somehow defend men when the topic is assault ON women BY men 😭 they js be picking and choosing what to focus on when the point is addressing rape

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i think finding a fault in the response to rape is a rlly shitty way to disregard the whole situation (and it’s not just u- it’s smth ppl in general have started to do in response to issues like this)

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nah this is just a common method ppl use to defend men in this situation. it’s valid to assume all men when you’ve experienced that. it’s always safer to assume, but regardless ppl usually don’t mean it literally when they say they hate men. and if they do, that’s 100% valid given what women as a whole have gone through bc of men

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Anonymous #4 13w

i see what you think but i don't think saying something even if someone doesn't mean it can still cause harmful stereotypes and stigmas

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yeah that’s what i meant- being weary of men in general not assuming all men are rapists/assailants

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Anonymous #12 13w

like i've had a couple bad experiences with men. but i have a lot of men in my life that treat me well and are nice and supportive and funny and it isn't fair to them to say absolutes. even if it may not be literal, it's still creates harmful stereotypes.

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Anonymous #4 13w

as in being safe rather than sorry is what i meant

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I know plenty of great guys, they’re very understanding and have more discernment than you’re giving them credit for. They understand being SA’d can cause a lot of issues with trust and it’s not personal. Just because someone processes that differently than you, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, who are you to get on a moral high horse about it? Its just adding onto the stigma that survivors face for not being the “perfect victim”,

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Anonymous #6 13w

SA survivors aren’t stopping men from getting jobs, finding housing or face discrimination on any scale, its not nearly as worrisome as more men in our generation believing women need to be submissive to their husbands and in repealing the 19th amendment at higher rates than boomer men

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Im not saying it will, I don’t want to get side tracked here, my point was in saying that if we want to go off on harmful generalizations there’s definitely stuff way more sinister and common than things said by SA victims in relation to their assault

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Anonymous #6 13w

Also “the government wouldn’t allow that” isn’t the best argument with that since the government has already allowed that, they allow for thousands of rape kits to go untested every year, they allow for homocide to be the #1 killer of pregnant women, they allow companies to not cover any maternity leave, they allow young girls/children to be trafficked from the foster care system (60% of trafficking victims came from foster care), & they dont care, which is why we need to advocate for ourselves

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I understand these things are illegal but the way these issues aren’t treated with the slightest sense of urgency by our government its fair to say that they do not care about women, girls, SA survivors as much as the law would have you believe, actions speak louder than words

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Anonymous #5 13w

can you read? genuinely read the TITLE OF THE POST.

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Anonymous #4 13w

the image that op screenshotted and posted originally is a statistic for men and women on sexual assault. op made this about hating men. maybe we should learn something for the site that posted the statistic. it’s not men vs. women! it’s victims vs. assaulters

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Anonymous #4 13w

it’s not “valid” if it’s not true. hello? earth to you

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The “foreigners” thing is racist misinformation btw. Rape is rampant and laws again Stuart are rarely enforced in the US and Europe , but “foreigners,” ie POC are more likely to be convicted and white me more likely to get away with it because of systemic biases. Don’t turn the rape epidemic into and excuse to be racist.

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Anonymous #17 13w

Posted this only to see #3 also blaming feminism for rape later on, should have known you didn’t actually give a shit about rape lol

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Anonymous #8 12w

Why are you more mad that I “made this about hating men” than the statistic that 99% of perpetrators are men

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Anonymous #8 12w

It’s actually insane how mad you are over “hating men” than the actual problem

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Anonymous OP 12w

tbh i see this convo and thread is misleading bc a lot of people are making it seem like 99% of men on earth are perpetrators but it's supposed to be 99% of actual SA cases in the usa where men are perpetrators. but a lot of stuff gets underreported too. approx 61% of cases aren't reported to law enforcement. and i ain't gon lie there's probably an amount of male victims being underreported too cuz of fear of it gettin twisted or fear that the female will make themselves look like a victim.

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Anonymous #12 12w

Girl who the fuck cares if people think that 99% of men on earth are perpetrators? How does that affect their life in any way? Yes they are under reports but you don’t think it’s out of pocket that 99% of the reported cases were done by men? How does “”””hating men”””” affects men besides hurting their feelings on the Internet

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Anonymous OP 12w

i mean i kinda care. i don't want someone grouping me with a bunch of other people just because i fit in the demographic of what they look like. and i just try to think about how that would make me feel when ppl say shift about my gender or name call. i don't like it when men call all women sensitive or sluts or gold digger. just because there's some women out there that are like that doesn't mean other women are like that. i just try to live by treating others the way i wanna be treated

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Anonymous #12 12w

The difference is punching up versus punching down. Women are oppressed, men aren’t. I promise you men will be okay if women on the Internet say “I hate men”

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Anonymous #19 12w

Sorry that was your experience but this post is about women I’m afraid

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Anonymous #19 12w

Also "that's cool" over 91% of rape/SA victims being female. You didn't even pretend to care

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Anonymous #20 12w

not completely accurate because the numbers are actually way higher due to so many unreported cases of sa

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Anonymous OP 12w

Yeah because men are always disregarded. Sorry for having a penis, but I didn’t fucking consent to the things she did to me. I almost fucking killed myself 3 years ago because nobody would listen

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Anonymous #12 12w

Don’t know why your getting downvoted, those are all good points.

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Anonymous #19 12w

I didn’t consent to a trauma dump

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Anonymous #18 12w

Thank you

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Anonymous #18 12w

holy shit thank you!! getting defensive about a choice of diction you may disagree with in this context says a lot about a person (mainly men- on the GIRL feed btw- in this case given they’re the ones saying ts)

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Anonymous OP 12w

You’re proving my point. Well done

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Anonymous #19 12w

You shouldn’t feel the need to be apologetic about being a man, because you aren’t a rapist. We are always disregarded because of the actions that the majority of men choose to do, but it doesn’t have to be that way. I understand that you have suffered, but so have these women. You can’t discredit their feelings either though.

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Anonymous #19 12w

It’s true dude I really didn’t ask to hear that. You tried making a post about women about yourself. Like I’m sorry that happened but I’m having a hard time sympathizing with you considering you totally made this post about yourself.

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Anonymous #19 12w

You also said "that's cool" which was fucked up. You obviously have no sympathy for women, why would I have sympathy for you

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Anonymous #18 12w

Because they can’t get past their own ego. Because for some they know they are the problem, and the others can’t realize this isn’t about them. I believe all rapists deserve justice regardless of gender, but to do that, men have to be willing to empathize with women rather than see it as an attack on their character.

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Anonymous OP 12w

See? You don’t like it when people are dismissive, so why should I be accepting of it as a man? You’re proving everything I have an issue with here

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Anonymous #19 12w

You were the one who came in here first claiming the post was “cool” then made the whole thing about yourself dude

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Anonymous #19 12w

This is girl talk and this post was for women.

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Anonymous OP 12w

#19, you have to be willing to see them as victims who have suffered just as you have, and you have to look past the generalizations because they aren't about us, they're about the men who need to be brought to justice for the sake of these women.

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Anonymous #19 12w

“as a man” YOU are on girl talk bro 😭 tf u doing on here anyway

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Just don’t be surprised when you get pushback 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous OP 12w

And I can say the same to you

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Anonymous #19 12w

Two way street

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Anonymous #19 12w

Again, you’re the one who came in here making this post about yourself, in a women’s space. Obviously people are going to be pissed

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Why do you feel the need to insert yourself into a page made for specifically women? I understand you’re hurting, but men give them pushback like this which is why they made a space for them to be able to talk. Do better.

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Anonymous #23 12w

Trauma is no excuse for sexism

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Anonymous #22 12w

I agree, but you still have to be able to relate to the other side regardless if there is to be meaningful discussion and an eventual understanding.

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Anonymous #23 12w

Why isn’t this community invite only if it’s supposed to be women only?

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Anonymous #19 12w

Nobody said it’s women only, but it’s a women’s space. You came into a women’s space making it about yourself. What don’t you understand

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Anonymous OP 12w

Womp womp. Get over yourself

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