genuine insanity. hope Being Normal™️ finds them soon

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Sure but that doesn’t mean you need to. You can disagree but at a certain point just let people believe what they believe

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That would be like if I criticized gay people in general but then was like oh but I love my gay best friend though. I would get cancelled for that

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Anonymous #4 26w

Not at all the same.

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Anonymous #2 26w

It’s the concept that criticizing a belief is criticizing someone’s entire livelihood in many cases

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Ik im not trying to disregard what u said i actually agree with u im just saying there are those who do criticize that belittle ppl for believing in their religion

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what religion are you denouncing by chance

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not at all. have a blessed day

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Anonymous #4 26w

Yeah, being gay isn’t a “belief”, it’s simply a fact of who someone is. Religion is a choice, being gay is not. They are not comparable.

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Anonymous #2 26w

That wasn’t the point I was making

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Anonymous #4 26w

It is, though. And it was wrong.

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Anonymous #2 26w

I think the bottom line is, just be kind and understanding to other people’s beliefs. If they’re not killing or threatening anyone. Being rude to them only divides us more

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That’s not true at all.

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I understand that’s it’s not something that you just decide you are. But it’s something that you identify as, like how people identify with their religion. It’s your identity. And if someone’s devoted to their religion then it’s not going to change them anyways so why is there a need to be rude to them?

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God bless you.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Yeah, still not even remotely the same. Congrats on missing the point and still making incorrect and misleading comparisons between two completely unrelated concepts.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Keep that shit to yourself, too. OP may not criticise the individuals but when you’re acting like this I sure as hell will.

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Anonymous #2 26w

This response is just proving our case.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Proving the case that religion is bullshit and it creates and harbours toxicity? You’re right in that regard.

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I was under the impression that you were done with the conversation.

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It’s not, the reason I said you’re proving my point is because you are now attacking me personally which is what I initially said was wrong

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and I’m sorry you feel this way. Let’s just agree to disagree atp

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Anonymous #4 26w

I’m attacking you at this point! 🙋🏻‍♀️

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There’s a difference between the way we’re speaking here. There’s no need to be degrading.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Your entire cult degrades everyone, so…

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Anonymous #2 26w

I’m not involved in a cult. And we love everyone despite the narrative that so many have come to believe.

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Anonymous #4 26w

It’s a blood and death cult. There’s no way around that. And, no, you don’t actually love everyone. You can’t be Christian and love everyone— those are incompatible. Per your own mythology.

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Yes, I have a cousin who’s a lesbian and so is one of my best friends. I love them just the same as anyone else.

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Anonymous #4 26w

“I tokenise a few people so I can pretend my cult doesn’t actually hate them and want them to suffer and die ‘cause I’m so great! 🫶🏻”

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I didn’t say it was a belief system, you said that. The comparison was about how degrading people’s livelihood is not okay, no matter what’s important to them and even if you disagree with them

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Anonymous #2 26w

I don’t want them to suffer, I love them and they’re my family. I wouldn’t come to a place like kent if I couldn’t handle that kind of thing

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Anonymous #4 26w

Again, being gay is not a choice. Believing your myths is a choice. They are not comparable. Criticising religion and limiting its overreach does not harm people (believing in it does, though), but going after gay people gets them killed.

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Anonymous #2 26w

Criticizing me is not going to “limit its overreach.” In fact it reassures me of why I take pride in being nice to other people

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Anonymous #4 26w

Being Christian and supporting the abusive cult it is ≠ being nice to others.

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Anonymous #2 26w

I’m curious what you believe is abusive about it. We pray for people who are struggling and conflicted. We give thanks for what we have. No part of it is attacking or abusing anyone.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Ah, yes, prayer. Not only does it do nothing, but it serves to insult others while they’re down. “Let me pray to my mythological figure who doesn’t give a fuck about you while I take my money and give it to the church for them to cover up CSA, withhold food to communities ravaged by colonialism until they convert, and slither our way into politics to make sure anyone not like us cannot exist.”

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Anonymous #4 26w

You seem to forget about the numerous genocides committed in the name of religion. How Christian settlers *specifically* set out to murder Queer Indigenous people as part of the effort to “kill the Indian, save the man”. Oh! Can’t forget the kind and loving Christians who want homeless people executed, think drug addicts are a scourge on the world, did NOTHING for people with AIDS, how you left people to rot in prison after leaving concentration camps simply because they were Queer… nonstop.

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Anonymous #2 26w

We give to the homeless every week. Most of the money that we raise right now is going to the people that are being denied of snap benefits. And we send care packages to countries who are at war, people who are in prison, in poverty. We just want people to be loved and cared for

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Anonymous #4 26w

Can’t forget in your own myths: the amount of violence against children, specifically, is a notable example. The constant sexual assault and mistreatment of women. Nothing said AGAINST slavery, only how to keep it up. And no, it’s not acceptable because “it was a different time”. Wrong is fucking wrong. Your “god” can’t say not to “own” or beat other people, but makes it a note NUMEROUS times to only worship it? The fucking ego.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Oh, sure, $5 of every $100 that comes in to keep up appearances. The lawyers to cover up CSA cost a lot, though.

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We’ve got a sign with the pride flag outside our door that says “you are welcome here.” And if people get pregnant before marriage they are 100% welcome to the church. They are not sent away or looked down upon

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Anonymous #4 26w

Still doesn’t change the root of the issues: the religion itself.

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And, as we’ve seen— especially in southern Africa— it’s for conversion. Create instability, promise better, keep you struggling so you keep turning back to the ones “offering help” who created the problems to begin with.

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Anonymous #2 26w

I can’t speak on other branches of Christianity but as for us, we serve the lord and we help others. Maybe the real “mythology” is the stigma created about god fearing people.

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Because we genuinely support them. They can come in and chat with us, get some food if they need it, come to worship if they want, and will be treated just the same. Nobody is going to interrogate them or anything like that

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Anonymous #4 26w

“Serve the lord” the same one that tells you to kill disobedient children, who interferes when it wants to and pretends it doesn’t, who is all knowing but has to “test” faith, all powerful but can’t defeat its opponents, wants everyone to “go to heaven” yet dishes out permanent punishment for finite crimes. Suuuure. Sooooo loving.

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Anonymous #2 26w

Well these are all assumptions, none of which are actually true. Also I’m not from South Africa so I’m not sure what that practice is.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Christianity. That’s what it is. That’s what keeps people fucking suffering. It’s what gets in the way of progress and decency.

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Anonymous #2 26w

Why would someone create a greater need for them to have to give money away? That doesn’t make sense and I would like to know where this info is coming from

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I’m saying that we have a good amount of random accusations here and I would like to know where’s the proof that this all falls back on christians

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Ok so just noticing. Not researching or looking at facts or finding an actual accredited source that can tell us that this is all our fault.

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And since you used the term “trends” there are people pointing out the amount of school shooters who overwhelming happen to be trans. I personally don’t generalize in that situation, but that’s basically what you’re doing here.

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well I’m sorry that you had a bad experience, I really truly am. But we can’t just say oh that one church was really bad to me so I hate all churches and every single christians a bad person.

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What was bad about them?

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were they congregating together and saying “hmm what can we do this week to make sure that the kids in Africa continue to starve and that LGBTQ people feel worse about themselves?”

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Anonymous #4 26w

Congrats on once again ignoring the points being made. Colonialism and the harms brought about it are directly tied to abrahamic mythologies. Y’all create wealth disparities to harm the indigenous and force them to take handouts from you to convert.

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right so I’m not the only one that doesn’t know what she means by that

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Anonymous #4 26w

You know exactly what I mean because I explained it clearly. You’re just pulling a christian move and being the most obtuse motherfuckers to pretend you don’t cause harm when that’s all you all do.

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Anonymous #2 26w

I don’t. what are we supposed to do, move out of the United States and give it back to the people who were here before?

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Anonymous #4 26w

We messed up but that wasn’t gods fault it was our fault.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Your god doesn’t exist. People do. The consequences of your mythology do.

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Anonymous #2 26w

People were going to go to other parts of the world anyways for exploration and they would have taken the materials. It would have still happened even if the religious aspect wasn’t there.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Aaaaand there’s the “justification”. “They would have been murdered and pillaged and enslaved anyway but it’s better it was Christians doing it 🥺” Fuck that and fuck you for thinking it.

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Anonymous #2 26w

Well I’m not just going to act like it didn’t happen but I mean yes it would have happened anyways. This was also our ancestors so instead of just dwelling on what happened we’re better off changing for the better and living anew

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Anonymous #4 26w

Or maybe we should just all live in hatred and continue to dwell on things that can’t be changed and be depressed forever and criticize people for wanting to spread good in the world.

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Alright so should we give it back? The damage has already been done years and years ago.

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Anonymous #4 26w

“Things are shit, things are bad. But it’s not worse than it could be so we don’t need to make things better.” Again— FT, FY.

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Then why are you still here.

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Anonymous #2 26w

“Things are bad. But I don’t want to be blamed for it so let’s just blame it on the christians and spread even more hate.” Great idea

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Yeah well if you want to give it back and do justice then why are you continuing to live on stolen land

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So then there’s nothing we can do about it. And it’s not like Americans wake up and say wow I can’t do anything good in life or enjoy anything because we’re living on land that was stolen 500 years ago.

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I am fully acknowledging it. I said I’m not going to act like it didn’t happen. But why are we talking about it if there’s nothing that we can actively do right now to fix the problem and if trying to fix it would just make things worse

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I’m saying what I think. This whole thing has already got out of hand

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What is your proposal as to how we should fix this

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And all of the abrahamic myths while we’re at it.

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Hope you don’t plan on making a lot of money w your career

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Well you’re going to lose it all without capitalism. They’ll make you share all that money that you’ve worked hard to earned with other people who haven’t earned it

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It won’t, trust.

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Aw that’s sweet. That’s a good Christian way of thinking I like that.

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Figures the dumbass defends the blood cult AND capitalism. Once again showing how “loving” they all are, being perfectly content with people dying under oppressive systems that cannot be sustained.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Imagine thinking people have to fucking “earn” food, housing, healthcare, and education. You’re fucking sick and you disgust me.

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Anonymous #2 26w

I mean communism hasn’t worked before ever in history and that’s why it’s not around anymore. Again I’m not against helping people in need otherwise we wouldn’t be donating our money to them

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Anonymous #4 26w

You are, though. You think people have to fucking “earn” the bare minimum to survive. You are abhorrent and show exactly what’s wrong with your mythology.

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Anonymous #2 26w

Ok so what if all the churches/ soup kitchens/ other religious organizations just stopped offering help? That would definitely be detrimental which shows we’re making some difference.

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I feel that you would be hostile towards us no matter what we did. We are literally trying to help people. Of course we can’t solve poverty but we’re doing what we can.

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You can disagree but it’s not ok to just blame all the world’s problems on us.

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Yes of course it’s sad that those people are being targeted. But why are a lot of these people christians themselves? Being christian doesn’t mean “I hate everyone who’s not white and American”

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There are absolutely christians who are oppressed and live very difficult lives. Some are immigrants, homeless, some are even part of the lgbtq community and they continue their faith in god

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Well don’t you think if they thought Christianity was to blame they would stop being religious? Anyways, have a blessed day.

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Anonymous #4 26w

Wanna really help? Let’s start by keeping religion out of other people’s bodies and healthcare needs. Tax the churches since they want to run like businesses with all of the benefits and none of the accountability. Put that money toward safety nets in communities, not Cheryl’s shitty bake sales.

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Anonymous #2 26w

They’re tax exempt because they’re charitable organizations. And I’m sorry that there’s people who want babies to be killed but as far as I know it’s legal in Ohio so they’re getting their way anyways

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Anonymous #4 26w

“Charitable” 🤣 Your ilk sicken me.

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