Back in the 80’s there was a masculinity crisis due to a few diff factors but a main one being that with all of these movements going on from the 60s/70s it’s disrupting the status quo and the familiarity that straight white men were dealing with and with the change of what’s the man women “wanted” it created discomfort and a basically cross.

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Anonymous #4 8w

@3

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Anonymous #6 8w

who’s it about, then?

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Anonymous #8 8w

all the social warrior concerns

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Anonymous #6 8w

like what?

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Anonymous #8 8w

Feminism also touches base with toxic masculinity, and how it harms men and is one of the reasons why men have a higher suicide rate. It discusses patriarchal issues that not only pushed down woman, but push down men. Don’t confuse feminism with misandry. Those are two different terms, and you clearly cannot differentiate the two.

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Anonymous #5 8w

I just asked clarifying questions because I thought #6 was a TERF. What are you talking about? I can’t be a misandrist, my best friend is a man.

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Anonymous #5 8w

Also obviously the patriarchy hurts men, too but it will always hurt women more than it hurts men because it’s designed to give men power over women. The focus of feminism should be women, but the harm the patriarchy causes to men is all the more reason for men to call out misogyny in their groups.

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Anonymous #8 8w

they didn’t call you a misandrist though

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Anonymous #6 8w

No, but you’re confusing the term for feminism with the term for misandry, I feel like that was quite obvious and I made that quite clear.

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Anonymous #5 8w

lol no im not

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yeah i was mindblown when I learned there was a whole men’s rights movement in response to the feminist movement in the 70s. The group split & one group was men who were pro feminist and trying to deconstruct their patriarchal societal roles and the other was made up of people who were antifeminist & thought men were oppressed and women were not

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Anonymous #6 8w

there are different approaches to feminism. A lot of approaches are critiqued by other feminists, for example the western approach to feminism is critiqued a lot

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Anonymous #14 7w

the statements in the post can all be true of movements as a whole, my only point is to make sure we hold each other accountable bc we will never be able to convince swing voters we’re right with that violent, blindly hating mindset that those movements themselves are meant to go against from the other side. fire with fire gains no sympathy and loses elections

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