
Hey guys if anyone missed my thread with more information about the American adoption industry let me know and I'll repost it! It's very informative and clears up a lot. Don't believe the lies spread about me. I would never want a child to ever stay in abusive homes or to be dumped to the street or to stay in foster homes, adoption is not the only external care option
she also never mentions that adoption being problematic has a lot to do with the treatment and cultural genocide of native Americans. this is probably the strongest case against adoption in the US. yet all of it is painting adoptees as evil child abusers and not like. any systemic failures Lol
I was civil but no one was engaging in good faith? I literally provided the source begged of me andā¦. Silence. As usual. There was barely any counter points given, it was mostly just insults? How do you have a civil discussion with that? Yeah ppl were being mean and belittling me for no god damn reason. Sorry you donāt like being called out
and yet ur still yapping and complaining for over three hours like if u feel that way, take the hing and stop talking about it maybe or idk take a moment to actually engage with what ppl are saying to u instead of making a random comment about some random thing they didn't say to begin with but since u dont understand what they commented and need to look smart u need to create an non existent issue to reply to
It starts with Georgia tann which is what the post was about? Adoption was different before her. Itās not just native Americans, it was an anti-poor ppl eugenics thing. They didnāt think poor ppl could raise their own children and that rich ppl should do it instead. Thatās the root of American adoption. I was only arguing with the points presented, no one brought up that, sorry
because that's literally what she's doing, like i get it using ur experience to make a point in an argument here and there but every single comment? thats not an argument thats looking for pitty points and validation for what u went through using other people's suffering as an excuse
And why would I call adoptees child abusers. You mean adoptive parents? I never called APs child abusers, what are you making up now. Like this is how I know yall donāt know what youāre talking about My arguments were all about systemic failures, like you guys just make up shit to be mad at
we shouldn't have to bring uo those points to you?? YOU made the post wanting to discuss the evil roots of adoption and blatently overlooked some of the most horrific things about it and the u got mad that i thought ur vibes were fucking weird because u were doing that, like its YOUR discussion YOU said u were educated in it but u "forgot" about the most important part of the conversation? make it make sense
So bc ppl are horribly anti adoptee and like to bully I should stop advocating for marginalized ppl? Is that how you feel about other marginalized communities? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IM LITERALLY ENGAGING WITH EVERYONE WITH FACTS AND HARDLY ANYONE IS ENGAGING WITH MY ACTUAL ARGUMENT. You guys are genuinely delusional and canāt see reality Like show me where Iāve done that. Seriously. I provided a source as requested and no one even replied!!
I was talking about Georgia Tann and how she shaped adoption today. Adoption is not wrong bc it targets poc communities (which it absolutely does and is another layer) meaning itās okay to target white babies. American Adoption is wrong bc it removes your human rights.. point blank period. That was my argument. I didnāt overlook anything. Most of it was responding to adoptees and then uneducated ass ppl who were just there to bully. If I was given the opportunity to have an honest conversation,
- I did mention systemic failures multiple times - I said 90% of APs adopt to own kids, and I absolutely stand by that. It is difficult to come across trauma informed APs - AMERICAN adoption is human trafficking yes - I NEVER EVER even implied anything about my life or experience. Im keeping it solely to the facts for a reason
But thatās not my position. My position is American adoption is rooted in and currently operates as legal human trafficking since coercion and the falsification of records is necessary in the for profit billion š²industry Itās not generalizing, thatās just legally how it works š pls at least look it up And never called anyone abusers lmao
- pls show where I was condescending to other adoptees unless they were already being anti adoptee? I have the right to be disgusted by that and to voice it - nobody is engaging with my actual argument and are inventing a million things - pls show any evidence of how I donāt understand intersectionality? Youāre probably operating off the fake liberal version WDYM TRANSACTIONAL? What Iām i trying to give or take?