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Youre fucking weird if you think people shouldn’t have kids if they’re poor. That’s eugenics talk

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Anonymous 5d

it’s not wrong to say don’t have kids if you can barely afford to support yourself

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Anonymous 5d

poverty is often traumatizing. you shouldn’t just have kids that you can’t support bc love isn’t enough to fill their stomachs and make them happy. and on top of that poverty is often a cycle so most of the time you’re dooming them to poverty too

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Anonymous 5d

if you’re going to have kids, you should be able to support them and care for them, including financially. that doesn’t mean there should be a law against poor people having kids, just that it’s cruel to have a child you can’t afford to raise.

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Anonymous 5d

people genuinely don’t realize it either when they say that. like i understand completely what they’re trying to say, which is responsible and realistic decision-making should play a part in having children, but they’re going about it the absolute worst way possible😭😭😭

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Anonymous 5d

Giving your child a good quality of life is very difficult when you’re living paycheck to paycheck in a studio apartment

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Anonymous 5d

As a former foster kid, I agree with you but also don’t. People without means to care for a large number of children shouldn’t have them. We need better government programs and access to birth control for everyone. Children suffer when people have too many kids that they can afford.

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Anonymous 5d

If you can’t afford to keep a child above poverty and illness, you should be taking whichever measures are available to avoid pregnancy or abort. We don’t need any more children suffering

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Anonymous 5d

A child should never have to wonder if they will be able to eat that day or have a roof over their head that night. No one should be denied the right of having a child but people also need to consider the responsibilities that come with having a child. As a teacher I see children who come from poverty every single day, multiple students I’ve had to buy new clothes or shoes for. There are students of mine who are in kindergarten who can’t eat lunch because they can’t afford it.

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Anonymous 5d

poor but able to get by= sure, have kids. poor to the point of being unable to provide a happy healthy life for a child= dont have kids just to neglect them

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Anonymous 5d

bruh that's not eugenics that's like concern over the child's qol

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Anonymous 5d

I think a lot of people don’t know the history of forced sterilization of lower class (especially black) women in the late 1800s/ early 1900s that was championed by eugenicists of the time

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Anonymous 5d

Amen.

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Anonymous 5d

Bro is on one tn 😭 I feel like it’s pretty sound logic to say “hey if you don’t have the resources or access to the resources needed to properly care for a child, then it would be irresponsible to intentionally have kids”

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Anonymous 5d

I don’t think anyone should treat poorer families as lesser than and I don’t think we should control people’s abilities to have kids. That being said, if you are absolutely certain that you do not have the means to properly care for a child it is very reckless to have a child anyways.

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Anonymous 5d

People are arguing with you but ur right it literally is eugenics. Maybe instead of shaming people for being poor we should fund programs to make sure people and kids aren’t in poverty in the first place.

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Anonymous

#3 5d

It is wrong to play purity/morality police and tell people what to do with their lives. This rhetoric places poor people as less than human

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Than* whoops

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Why are yall upvoting my typo lmao

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Anonymous

#7 5d

In these scenarios, the child’s needs are more important than a mothers desire for a child

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Anonymous

#5 5d

In a free society we cant tell people what they “should” and “shouldn’t” do… put your energy towards the government. Like you just said

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Anonymous

OP 5d

Right…people should be free to neglect kids they can’t afford to care for. Got it.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

So what? There should be laws that you have to make a certain amount of money to have kids? Who decides that? Like what is the point of this conversation? What are yall trying to achieve other than finger wagging at people for procreating

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Anonymous

OP 5d

So what? I have PTSD, suntance use disorder, and severe, treatment resistant depression because my parents were selfish and irresponsible. But sure, let people do what they want. Bring life into this world that they can’t care for and nurture properly.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Creating a life for yourself and building a family if you wish to do that is a human right

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Anonymous

OP 5d

It’s not a human right to neglect kids lmao

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Im confused bc you didnt answer my question. What’s your solution? Make it illegal to have kids if you make minimum wage? Sterilize poor people?

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Anonymous

OP 5d

It’s not my job to solve anything. Kids shouldn’t be born into homes where they cannot be cared for, period.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Then this conversation is just about shaming people?

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Anonymous

OP 5d

No? It’s about being realistic. No one is entitled to children.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

This is a very fascist take lol

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Anonymous

OP 5d

You are reaching so hard girl I can’t

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Anonymous

#5 5d

No one should have to go through what I went through. Period. No one should be traumatized from birth. I will die on this hill.

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Anonymous

#8 5d

It’s cruel to deny people of food stamps and child care. Direct y’all’s energy towards that. Im sick of the purity police

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Anonymous

#8 5d

Thank you for this.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Im really not. Literally just google eugenics

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Anonymous

OP 5d

Imagine telling a victim of the foster care system (who is black) that they’re a eugenicist 😭

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Begging you to think critically about the real root of the problem. Poor people doing their best to live their lives are not the problem

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Anonymous

OP 5d

Begging you to get your head out of your ass. If you can’t afford kids it is completely irresponsible to have them.

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Anonymous

OP 5d

girl no one here is saying we should deny people food stamps and child care. in a perfect world people would have access to those things and it wouldn’t be an issue. and obviously sometimes people’s financial circumstances change and there’s varying levels of poverty. you brought up poor people for having kids, not food stamps, so that’s what i’m responding to.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

Again theres no point to your point you just wanna shame people

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Anonymous

OP 5d

People who neglect children deserve to be shamed lmao.

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Anonymous

#5 5d

if anything, saying people ARE entitled to children is a fascist take. thats how we get the fucked up adoption system

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Anonymous

#8 5d

also crazy how op is responding as if everyone disagreeing wants to forcibly sterilize The Poor™️ and we shouldn’t say anything because it’s a “free society”. in a free society you can drink bleach, doesnt mean you should

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Anonymous

#8 5d

Google “eugenics poor people shouldnt have kids”

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Anonymous

OP 5d

how is that in any way a response to what i said

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Anonymous

OP 5d

You mean the fake “scientific study” used by people who hated other races? The science that’s been proved to hold no value, therefore that “science” doesn’t exist in modern day? What about it?

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Anonymous

OP 5d

it’s not about making poor people seem like less than, it’s about selfishly bringing an innocent life into poverty and suffering

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Anonymous

#11 5d

Girl what im so confused im not arguing for eugenics

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Anonymous

OP 5d

What was your point of saying Google eugenics?

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Anonymous

#11 5d

To show how the idea that poor people shouldnt have kids is rooted in eugenics rhetoric. There are a bunch of articles

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Anonymous

OP 5d

How did your original comment relate to #8?

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Anonymous

slutty_anakin 5d

No

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Anonymous

#16 4d

No. Eugenics is a fake science used for a fake argument by classists and racists. The people here are arguing for RESPONSIBILITY, not shaming people. There are programs to help, just not enough. We also don’t live in a perfect dream world, which means poverty still exists and kids still live in it, so we need to STOP bringing children into it if it can be helped

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Anonymous

#16 4d

that’s a great long term goal, but it doesnt change the fact that poverty exists right now.

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