Anonymous #1 5d

actually misandry is probably a better example lol

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irish people were always legally classified as white. the discrimination they faced was mostly due to xenophobia/religious differences (which is why they weren’t viewed as ‘truly’ white) not necessarily bc of their race. there are OTHER forms of discrimination a white person can face ofc, but there is no system of oppression based off of the discrimination of white people.

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Anonymous #1 5d

systematic racism is a type of racism. and individual can still be racist towards a particular group. it’s just a different type of racism. it’s still racism.

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Anonymous #3 5d

thats prejudice. racism is the application OF that system of oppression. you can’t be racist to someone unless that exists. like it simply is not the same lol

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Anonymous #1 5d

Girl I wouldn’t even bother. Half of girl talk has never read a single book on systemic racism or racial inequality. They’re stuck on the idea that reverse racism exists. It’s crazy

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…again. that was because of xenophobia and religious intolerance. im literally irish i am fully aware of the history of irish discrimination in the us. im not arguing irish people haven’t been discriminated against im saying that it was NOT because of their race. im a white lesbian! i know white people can be the victims of oppressive systems! but im NOT oppressed bc im white

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Anonymous #4 5d

i might be giving girl talk too much credit bc i really thought more people would be able to understand this 😭

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Anonymous #1 5d

They don’t even understand basic shit. I remember talking about how financial privilege gives you a huge leg up and I had ppl crying in my thread about how rich ppl have problems too and I just had to roll my eyes

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so you’re not actually arguing for the existence of racism towards white people? you’re saying it could just hypothetically exist?

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Anonymous #1 5d

Prejudiced literally means you judge people based on superficial qualities without knowing much else about them. Racist specifically means judging someone based on race. You are right that system of oppression is connected to racism but literally opposing the fact that racism also affects white people IS literally a system of oppression.

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Anonymous OP 5d

racism is denying someone a home bc of their race. prejudice is judging them. white people in the have never had anything denied to them ON THE BASIS OF BEING WHITE

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Anonymous #1 5d

Racism leads to discrimination and leads to actions such as denying someone a home. Anyone can be discriminated against regardless of race. Yes other races definitely have more severe acts of racism against eachother but it doesn’t change the fact that white people can be discriminated against because of their race.

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Anonymous #1 5d

racism is believing one race is superior to another. it has nothing to do with institutions.

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Anonymous #1 5d

Irish people were segregated against others just like Japanese were and Black people were. They are now modernly considered white but they used to not be

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Anonymous #1 5d

they’re booing you in the comments but you’re lowkey right

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Anonymous #1 5d

You can be racist towards white people.

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Anonymous #1 5d

You’re right and you should say it. Some of these bitches dumb asf

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Anonymous #3 5d

it is not a "type" of racism racISM *is* systematic and the word itself necessarily suggests that the suffix "-ISM" refers to systems (schools of thought, doctrines, theories, principles, etc) belonging to groups

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Anonymous sissy 5d

she is exactly right

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Anonymous #7 5d

Maybe in an alternate universe but not the one we currently live in

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Anonymous #9 5d

“school of thought” doesn’t have to be systematic

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Anonymous #14 5d

Yeesh you guys really don’t understand english

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Anonymous #4 5d

How so? I mean racism is prejudice against someone based on race.

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Anonymous #7 5d

racism involves power

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Anonymous #10 5d

Racism is not only systematic. That’s a type of it but there are multiple types of racism

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Anonymous #10 5d

So if your uncle Joe starts yapping about how much he hates Mexicans or whatever over thanksgiving dinner, he’s not racist, because he doesn’t have power over them? So many people here talking about racism like it’s ONLY a legal/structural concept and not a general umbrella of racial prejudice

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Anonymous #14 5d

If the only form of racism is systemic oppression, individual people can’t be racist Which I hope most of us would disagree with

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Anonymous #14 5d

he’s racist because he’s being racist toward a marginalized people. If he starts yapping about white people then he’s prejudiced

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Anonymous #10 5d

But if racism is only if it’s systemic oppression, your uncle isn’t systemically oppressing anyone just by existing and having prejudiced opinions

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Anonymous #14 5d

So he’s not racist, but he is prejudiced instead, since prejudice is what individuals have, and racism is the systemic oppression

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Anonymous #14 5d

hes still being racist lol you still can’t be racist to white people no matter what kind of hoops you’re trying jump through. what person of color has to prove that they are being discriminated against? only white people do it because it doesn’t happen within the confines of US race relations

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Anonymous #10 5d

He’s prejudiced, not racist, since racism is ONLY in reference to systemic oppression, I’m not being oppressed because one random person with no power over me doesn’t like how I look. If a black person were prejudiced against latinos, would you try to call that racism? Neither have power over the other

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Anonymous #3 5d

a school of thought is literally a system

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Anonymous #14 5d

just because it's not codified as part of a legal structure doesn't mean it isn't inherently systematic. half of the word literally denotes a system; the suffix "-ism" in rac𝘪𝘴𝘮 means precisely that. there is no system of racism against white people on account of their whiteness

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Anonymous #14 5d

the correct term for joe would be xenophobic. "mexican" is not a race, it's a nationality and ethnic group. regardless, your point about it being prejudice and not racism would still be false if the mexican person was black. racism is racial prejudice that occurs as part of a system. it's not "prejudice is when it's an individual". prejudice is when it happens outside a system. racism is when it happens as part of a system. joe would absolutely be participating in the american system of racism

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