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Anonymous 5w

And! Then they planted non-native species in order to ensure the groves would never be able to regrow thanks to the invasives.

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Anonymous 5w

me and the homies HATE isreal

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Anonymous 5w

Wow this is wild. What purpose would there be to destroying so many olive trees in a way where they aren’t even harvesting resources like using them for wood????

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Anonymous 5w

This is just a lie 😭😭😭 Israel is known for its environmental work

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Ew

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Prove it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Well, im sure all the corpses in the West Bank of kids and parents will help fertilize the soil. You fucking monsters.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Chat this doesn’t mean I support the actions of the government, but look into it, Israel does a lot of work to help with environmental and agricultural advancements, yall are just being bigoted and narrow minded in your hate, blaming all the people of Israel and the scientists 😬

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Since you’re so quick to jump to believe things I’ll give you the ai summary! Do your own research man 😬

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Okay, prove that this is a lie then. You made a claim bro, prove it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

And this

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Ok

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Yall fall for this shit too easily. I want there to be peace in Israel and Palestine, two states of democracy, but if people like you shits keep being extremist it’s pushing us away from peace and open conversations and instead pushing us to increases in violence to Jews and Arabs GLOBALLY

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

It is often better to listen than speak in matters of which you are ignorant https://origins.osu.edu/read/environmental-nakba-israel-palestine-water

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Okay but you said they DIDNT do this to the olive trees. So, prove it?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Bro I’m middle eastern and a lot of my education revolves around environmentalism in the Middle East, I bet you have personally no direct connection to the Middle East. You’re talking out of your ass

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Okay so use your education and prove this is a lie

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

You keep saying ppl are falling for lies but you’ve done literally nothing to prove it

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

I did briefly why aren’t you looking at the screenshot about the trees 😭 also man, do your own research like I know I’m not going to persuade you so I’m not going to waste my time finding never enough resources for you, I just hope maybe I can persuade you to be a little less jumping into extremism

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

The fucking AI overview that mentions literally nothing about the olive trees? Yeah buddy that’s not evidence to the contrary.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Not the ai one the screenshot of the different websites omgggg

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

I feel like I’m going crazy

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Are those all Israeli websites…?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Talk about fucking bias

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Right okay. So each one of those is an Israeli website. Don’t you think if they WERE doing environmental damage, they’d lie?? Are you that fucking daft?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Anyway, bye! I know you won’t be persuaded like I said, and I have no reason to raise my blood pressure further 🙏 just wanted to try to bring up some different perspectives so we don’t become an echo chamber!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

“Henry Israel says Israel is good” type shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Right that’s what I thought.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Yes bro obviously every single scientist, conservationist, biologist, ecologist, and matter of fact every one of those citizens are lying to you all the time !!😭😭 bffr

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Holy shit you did it, you free’d Palestine!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

“No im not antisemitic just anti Zionist, but also everyone in the country with the most Jews globally is a bunch of scheming liars who want to control everything and kill all non believers… ignore all the values in Judaism about worshiping the earth, and that everyone can connect with god regardless of their faith, or the fact their internet is just about as open as the US’s so any group can post whatever they want without government interference, those J- I mean zionists are so evil” is you rn

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

I spent 6 years in the Middle East and major in biochemistry alongside ecology with a minor in Jewish studies—you are not the epicenter of the universe, and approaching other people with arrogance is not something that will benefit you

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Or yknow also ignore the wild diversity in religions and ethnic groups who also care about the environment and live freely in Israel too who could easily post to Israeli websites cause they live there!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Except you didn’t show us every scientists opinion. You showed us three google search results from Israeli propaganda mills.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

I don’t have a minor in Jewish education, I have talked with a lot of Jews about this though! Yknow considering I work heavily in the Middle East and care for peace but okay!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

You’re so right let me dig through the entire data base of scientists on the internet and make a list of who says yay and who says nay and who has no opinion and get back to you, ignoring the fact I yknow have a background in education about middle eastern environmentalism

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

The least you could do is post more than google search results from known propaganda mills, you disingenuous asshole lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

But hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to make sure you don’t feel like you might not have been morally right for once. It’s okay to make mistakes or speak about things you have no clue about, but like listen to people who do, and don’t push more hate into the world. We have enough already

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

I’m literally just asking for anything more than headlines that are only tangentially related from websites that are known propaganda mills lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Dude go to google 😭😭 I’m not Google look them up and read through them yourself, analyze every source, you’re right to question if someone pays for the website! That shit definitely happens on both sides, I applaud your skepticism, but make sure it’s evenly applied

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

You made a claim, if you can’t support it I’m just going to assume it isn’t true. It’s not my job to find evidence for your position for you. For someone who talks so much about being educated, you sure are bad at defending your beliefs with any evidence.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w
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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

That’s exactly the problem though, you take what people say at face value and you aren’t doing your own reading, can’t you see that no matter what I say you won’t believe me? I know this is redundant, you need to not be lazy idfk or not rely on simply word of mouth, for all you know I could be being paid for by Qatar or some shit to stir up drama, like 😭 idc if you don’t believe me or think that me not spoon feeding your evidence means you’re objectively correct because that wasn’t my point

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

My point was to try to bring in another perspective and bring another background of education yes, but also to deter the extremism that immediately jumps up in these comment sections and when these posts pop up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

That image isn’t loading cuz I’m at the bar so we can just resume this later

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Instead of HEADLINES, please provide me EVIDENCE.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Call my argument weak all you want, but the main source of this post is a Twitter screenshot, if you want to believe that as the truth, do it, I’m not going to tell you how to live or think, I just wish more people these days would see past the rage that the governmental figures on ALL sides want us to have and be able to think with passion and critical thinking. That’s the only way we can get to a better world

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

LOL real of you lowkey, nah I’m done, I do want a drink now though 😔😔

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

What’s wild is that you fell BENEATH the standard of proof set by a fucking TWEET. You should be able to do better. If I was in your position (lying) I would be able to do better.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

So go get one man this is awful.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

I’m on a plane and I’m not paying absurd fees for a drink 💔💔 but hey you should see if you can get a drink (non alcoholic sometimes) with as many people with different cultures directly from the Middle East and see just what you can listen to from their different perspectives, at worst you might just get good food recommendations. I think in modern politics we as a society in the west really struggle to listen to those directly affected and just want to immediately jump into the fight

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Before you ask, my airline has free wifi 🙏🙏

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

we didn’t ask about israel’s environmental actions, this was about uprooting native olive trees not irrigating and planting crop

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Dude idk about this whole argument in the comments, I haven’t read it, but you have to realize that the conflict between Israel and Palestine is the single most environmentally damaging event in modern history? Really, look it up. The dust, the pollution, the famine and ecological destruction, Israel could triple its environmental efforts and still not cancel out THEIR OWN DAMAGE.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Like you have all these arguments but you have to acknowledge the biggest fact that contains all the others: regardless of the extent, regardless of the ethics, both the US and Israel just spent LITERAL TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on things that level buildings, use fuel and destroy shit as well as possible. You can’t have a war machine economy AND be environmentally friendly, you just physically can’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Like gang you can’t literally make a portion of previously sustainable and fertile land into a “wasteland unable to sustain life” and still call yourself an environmentally positive country lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

You might be THE most insufferable person I have ever had the misfortune of encountering

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 5w

Scorched earth warfare, destruction of a symbol of the people they’ve antagonized to remove them from existence. There’s no other reason, there’s no other defense. If we have to get ourselves killed to report on a point people won’t even accept, I feel like it’s pretty clear what’s going on.

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