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“before white men came it was said that a squirrel could travel from Charleston to the Mississippi and not touch the ground, jumping from tree to tree” - an old white guy I met in Arkansas
405 upvotes, 33 comments. Sidechat image post by tengriz in Environmental Baddies. "“before white men came it was said that a squirrel could travel from Charleston to the Mississippi and not touch the ground, jumping from tree to tree” - an old white guy I met in Arkansas"
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Anonymous 2d

Your comment is on density, its a diversity graph which is actually blowing me away the more I look at it. Diversity is more a consequence of nature, Density is a consequence of man

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Anonymous 2d

Has anyone ever been to that red spot at the corner of Florida Alabama and Georgia? The north east just looks like its denser in the highlands, but there has to be something special about that environment to be the most diverse place in america from a trees prospective

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Anonymous 2d

🤓🤓🤓”before white men came”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

That’s the panhandle everyone in the south goes there on vacation for the beaches. Other than that swamps and tropical stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> tengriz 2d

The Florida panhandle is nothing special. There must be a named forest that is the most diverse forest in America

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Apalachicola National Forest

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Sorry I’m a geologist I’m not used to man messing with my rocks like ecologists are with humans altering their environment lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Too many hicks to appreciate the scenery lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

I mean humans have had pretty devastating impacts on species diversity but go off ig

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

but yea the image isnt relevant lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1d

Yea I was like wait hold up-😭monocultures are most certainly a man made issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1d

Not my field but I was thinking what If you have human impacts lowering diversity by endangering certain species because of anthropogenic invasive species and deforestation of certain areas

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

Don’t be an elitist. There is more diversity here than whatever 99% white yankee hamlet you come from

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Anonymous replying to -> tengriz 1d

Man messes with rocks all the time. Wdym?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

???

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

Such a stupid comment, the native Americans cut down countless trees too. They just sucked at building compared to euros

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

No they didnt, the whole point of teepees is that they’re mobile and mostly made of fir

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Plus most to all tribes practices forms of cultivation and restraint in such in order to preserve the natural world, euros didn’t

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

No, some did😂😂most didn’t even consider it, they just didn’t have the means to extract much

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

Objectively they did, europeans were light years ahead of the natives in culture and intellect. Compare paris to a native camp lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-conservation-efforts-can-learn-from-indigenous-communities/

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Paris is a permanent settlement, dip shit

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

Ha just stop, im a BS in ENSC student. I already know all that you will try to say, it has been shoved down our throat enough times by the woke mcgraw hill type school curriculum. I have done my own research on history though, native americans were not the tree hugging pacifist’s that you have been taught about

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Your just a student, not a professional, you can always be wrong. Plus you haven’t made any kind of proof or logical argument, you’ve just had a hissy fit :3

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

The Mississippians were a very advanced society with complex trade networks extending all the way to Mexico and Canada along with societal structures. People only see them as lesser to Europeans because Europeans had horses and draft animals which GREATLY sped up tech advancement. The very fact that the natives were able to found large cities like Cahokia and build earthen mounds all over the south defines them as an advanced civilization. It’s proven that corn was grown at scale.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

The density of forests throughout the south remained largely unchanged since forest paths were used for trade networks. It was modified slightly to accommodate these paths but nothing compared to the industrialized society that had axes. There was some deforestation occurring in the Midwest around cities like Cahokia which used large amounts of wood for fire and construction but the south except for a few small cities and villages remained densely forested

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

Right right😂and you have demonstrated you only know the primary school standard education of history

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Anonymous replying to -> nya_nya 1d

Bottom line is the native Americans were as advanced as a society could be in a large land of abundant resources without the existence of draft animals. You NEED horses and oxen to pull plows and use the wheel to its fullest effect. Copper working was also common.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

All humans have the same intellect. Northern Europe was also covered by thick forest from France all the way to Russia. Even with more advanced tech these forests didn’t start to be widely cleared until the Germanic and Roman times. Would you call the pre-Roman Celtic tribes an inferior people too?

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Anonymous replying to -> tengriz 1d

Loud incorrect buzzer 😂😂😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

atp ur prolly just a troll or mentally slow, go to Cahokia IL or Spiro OK or Greenville MS for the evidence of everything I just said. Hell one of ur favorite European explorers Hernando de Soto wrote about this advanced civilization with farming and trade. Unfortunately his expedition introduced wild hogs and smallpox which spread through these trade networks and wiped out the advanced societies

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

Bro and, do you like crowded forests why yik someone who doesn’t like your yum

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Anonymous replying to -> tengriz 1d

imo you can only make natural conclusions from this. Those areas have been roughly that diverse for time in memorial. You have to think of the environment which is why I wondered what made that area of Florida special. It looks like a sick forest. Better than the alley of the baobabs probably

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