Environmental Baddies on Sidechat | might be a hot take but “colonialism” is the newest buzzword. colonialism and racism are being used to justify too many takes on veganism/environmentalism. if it’s not your culture, it’s not your place to comment.

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Environmental Baddies 1d

might be a hot take but “colonialism” is the newest buzzword. colonialism and racism are being used to justify too many takes on veganism/environmentalism. if it’s not your culture, it’s not your place to comment.

Environmental Baddies 1d

So many "ethical" vegans get so racist when their worldview is challenged :/ any critical vegans/veg/pescatarians on here?

Anonymous 1d

Im op of your repost. I think theres a point about speaking for other cultures but ar the same time in order to move towards restorative justice from settler colonialism it is of utmost importance to name the ways in which it functions and who it affects. I speak on Coast Salish issues because thats where i live, who i interact with, who i and my parents and friends work for, and have studied policy in. If you take issue with anything ive said id be happy to chat!

Anonymous 20h

We talked about something similar to this in my indigenous environmental movements class, it’s this “father knows best” mentality that was perpetuated by western culture and colonialism and is now, whether purposely or subconsciously, put into these arguments by people who just see an action as bad and don’t see the cultural implications of it. It’s like treating the native population as if they don’t know any better and that they need the “father’s understanding” of western civilization.

Anonymous

#1 1d

i have no issue! i actually agree with a lot of it. i have found issues with the more generalized arguments ive been hearing, where cultures are grouped into small boxes and stereotyped in order to justify either side of the argument. the problem is almost entirely “white savior vegans”, who are choosing to be ignorant of the ethical implications when it applies to people and not just animals.

Anonymous

#1 1d

While im not indigenous, its my duty to be a good guest on their land. My career focus is in indigenous planning and i have many relationships with many different tribal governments and elders. Ive been invited to potlatches, powwows, first salmon ceremonies and have seen firsthand how important fish is for cultural health and stewardship.

Anonymous

#1 1d

i’m currently minoring in native american studies and cultural anthropology, so i’m seeing a lot of this firsthand as well. as a vegan, i understand the importance of not judging other people’s cultural practices, especially when i am not someone who experiences it firsthand. i firmly believe that while it is important to advocate, there is a fine line between speaking OVER and speaking WITH. it is very hard to find people who speak WITH instead of OVER currently.

Anonymous

OP 1d

Hell yeah 100% to everything you said. Often in these discussions it can delve into "noble savage" and monolithic representation which is the same damn structure theyre attempting to critique. Youre def right that ppl use colonialism as a thought terminating cliche and invoke nebulous indigeneity as a gotcha, which is fucked.

Anonymous

#1 1d

it is genuinely so frustrating to see people use those terms as a way to “win” an argument, they use it as a closer because many people don’t want to argue against “it’s racist to assume…..”. i can bet you anything that they are as equally uneducated as the people they try to debate. thus why i view them as buzzwords. people need to do their research, learn from the proper people, and learn when their words are more harmful than helpful.