Environmental Baddies on Sidechat | i feel like even leftists have stopped caring about the environment. if we prioritized the environment in politics and laws we would rapidly see capitalism collapse and people’s lives would improve.

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Environmental Baddies 4w

i feel like even leftists have stopped caring about the environment. if we prioritized the environment in politics and laws we would rapidly see capitalism collapse and people’s lives would improve.

Anonymous 4w

I think a lot of people have lost hope. With that being said I do think that defeating capitalism will lead to environmental betterment, rather than environmental betterment leading to the defeat of capitalism. With that being said I appreciate the sentiment you are putting out!

Anonymous 4w

Both sides are bad. It isn’t a right vs left issue anymore. It’s all about who has money and who’s willing to take the bribe. There’s more money in getting paid off to vote in favor of large corporations and (usually) environmental destruction. Our entire government no matter their party affiliation is corrupt and greedy and unless we get rid of them and vote in new DESERVING people it’s never going to change.

Anonymous 4w

Not to mention most modern “leftists” are against the working class being armed

Anonymous 4w

wait but i side with dems and care so much abt the environment it literally makes my heart ache ☹️

Anonymous 4w

It’s important to have some nuance, countries with socialist stances like Vietnam continue to ramp up their coal industries. It’s simply because they have a lot of coal and they’re proud of it. Their coal miners unions remain strong and resistant to change and tbh there’s nothing wrong with that. From a socialist standpoint why should they invest in environmental policies that upset this balance?

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Anonymous

#1 4w

capitalism relies on the demise of our natural areas and environment. if we protect species and natural areas and curb growth the system as we know it will fall apart because if the economy and profits aren’t constantly growing that means the business is failing

Anonymous

OP 4w

I appreciate that perspective for sure, but I do think that the system that prioritizes profits will not allow this to happen with the environment, as we have seen the shrinking of protected lands for the sake of profit. I love your perspective and passion tho and I think what you are saying is well guided:)

Anonymous

#3 4w

Yeah it’s corruption that’s the main issue. We need a teddy Roosevelt style guy to stand against the corpos

Anonymous

#2 4w

Social and national values are also very important, a society and nation that has in its values to protect the environment will protect it regardless of what economic system they use. From liberal capitalist democracies in Europe to hardcore communist and fascist autocracies like Nazi Germany and the Soviets protecting environmental land because environmental purity was a nationalist value.

Anonymous

#2 4w

Liberal progressive democracies*

Anonymous

#2 4w

Do you happen to be an ACP supporter?

Anonymous

#4 4w

Holy airball

Anonymous

#5 4w

i just feel like no one talks about it as much as they used to