Anonymous #1 4w

Ummmmm that’s not true. Economic problems can lead to fascist movements but it’s not always the case. It has nothing to do with the national debt

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Anonymous OP 4w

I am saying after the hard right took power after the 1930s. They know this which is why they take issue with the debt and central banks. This way hard left politician can’t sell socialist programs as competition.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Basically this isn’t some typical political cycle 8 years from right to left but once a 100 years super cycle of nations getting into debt with opposing ideas how to run society that boondoggles and oligarchy pocketed the money. The people are disenfranchised that the hard right is selling to. What they sell is tariffs, immigration reform, erasing the debt to bring back buying power, and nationalism.

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Anonymous #2 4w

The both sides narrative only works between conservatives and liberals. The MAGA movement is a fascist movement. Equating what they believe with what normal people believe is the wrong thing to do because it supports fascism as normal.

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Anonymous OP 4w

And that is exactly what you’re doing… putting people in a box saying that everyone who supports Trump even in the slightest is a “fascist”, “white supremacist” “Christian nationalist”, etc…

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Anonymous #2 4w

That's the box they put themselves into

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Anonymous #2 4w

I did not say that. I said they’re either “fascist, a white supremacist, a Christian nationalist, a billionaire, a billionaire supporter, lack critical thinking skills, or are in a cult (of personality)” all of which is true. You can support some of his policies I guess, but if you support those policies despite the provable harm he is doing to our country, then you lack critical thinking skills, or are in a cult. It’s not about putting people in a box, it’s about challenging people to think

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Anonymous #4 4w

no. if a regular, level headed person were to say the littlest thing in support of Trump the would immediately be looked at differently and be put into that fascist box. it’s okay to agree with some things and disagree with others, doesn’t make you one thing or another

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Anonymous #2 4w

Trump has stated publicly that he is a fascist.

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Anonymous OP 4w

okay you just restated what I said…. of course I don’t support all of his policies and things he’s doing but you explicitly stated that if you support trump (very broad), you are “(fill in the blank).” that’s too easy to say coming from someone telling people to use “critical thinking.”

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Anonymous #4 4w

when and where lmk

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Anonymous #2 4w

It’s true tho… if you think you’re a maga supporter but don’t fall into one of those categories, let me know how. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Nice bait

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Anonymous #9 4w

Bro what

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Anonymous #5 4w

Google it

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Anonymous #10 4w

That’s really the stupidest reply you could’ve given, fascism unlike idk tires or chairs doesn’t have a definition like that — it’s something that’s debated and discussed

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Anonymous OP 4w

You didn’t say any of it. You copied and pasted it from some other whiny fucktard’s social, who stole it from some other whiny fucktard, and so on until you trace it back to the Russian bot that originally posted it. It doesn’t say anything. It’s just “my team lost” redux part 1 billion.

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Anonymous #11 4w

No it’s from my Instagram lol

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Anonymous #8 4w

Correct. Neither party is for the working class. But only one party is actively fascist 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 4w

And you got it from some other whiny fucktard’s insta so on and so forth all the way back to the Russian bot that originally posted it.

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Anonymous #11 4w

No I didn’t. I have a poli sci degree. I was pondering why people still support maga. I asked family and peers why they support maga, and I fit them into those 4 categories. I typed and thought of it all myself. Smd

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Anonymous OP 4w

So lemme get this straight, you’re saying you asked family and peers and they said they were fascist? Are you sure your degree isn’t in lying through your ass? I have a poli sci degree too, among others, and this is a bumper sticker that says nothing that you stole from some other moron. If it were actually your work, you’d be embarrassed.

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Anonymous #15 4w

He’s a right wing populist not a fascist I’m not defending him I didn’t even vote for trump and I’ve never liked him but that is destructive rhetoric

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Anonymous #15 4w

Really only Mussolini. The rest of what you’ve described is more generic authoritarianism, bordering on totalitarianism. But the left can’t really use those as insults after Covid, so they are stuck trying to make fascism fit when it really doesn’t.

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Honestly the way the ice officials have been acting is more fascist with how they have been ignoring the constitution and judicial orders and acting without restraint

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Anonymous #16 4w

If by that you mean you only read pro Trump news, you’d be #4. If you read multiple viewpoints of media, you’d have critical thinking skills and therefore wouldn’t support maga stupidity

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Anonymous OP 4w

So what if you only read Democrat news? That would indicate that you’re just in a rival cult? See how that works, dipshit?

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Anonymous #11 4w

I got one straight up fascist I knew in college. Most of my family straight up said they want a Christian nation. A few were pro billionaire. And the rest showed no critical thinking skills.

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Anonymous #11 4w

I wrote this all and didn’t steal it from anyone.

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Anonymous OP 4w

That’s makes it even more embarrassing. You probably shouldn’t be alone for a while. The shame is going to set in and the black clouds are going to get really low.

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Anonymous #11 4w

It would work if I didn’t read all major news channels, as well as Republican and leftist YouTubers. As well as what our own government says. I read a lot. I have critical thinking skills. I’m not in a cult because I dont have a political leader, and even if I did, I don’t put their face on the justice department building. Or name laws after my leader. You resorted to name calling which means you’re either #3 or 4 or both

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Anonymous #11 4w

No

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Anonymous OP 4w

Because it’s basically all you have in a world where no one likes you? That’s valid. Well I guess keep it to prevent the darkness from creeping in, just realize that no one will ever like you or take you seriously if they ever hear you talk or read anything you’ve written. So do with that what you will, guy who could only make friends with a self-identified fascist.

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Anonymous OP 4w

All major news. So your house smells like piss and you never move away from the computer. Cool. Enjoy that, I guess.

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Anonymous #22 4w

That’s the point. They have to feel superior somehow, and the avenues for that are super limited.

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Anonymous #15 4w

So say there’s a hypothetical president talking about canceling midterm elections, threatening states to release sensitive voter information, actively disenfranchising millions of voters, tried to overturn an election through an insurrection after they lost, continues to deny election results, sends in the national guard for people peacefully protesting, has a state secret police executing people, etc. Again, this is all hypothetical. Would you consider this hypothetical president a fascist?

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Anonymous #24 4w

Is there any rational basis for any of these actions? Like have a lot of state election officials been arrested for chicanery? Context matters. Let’s say there was a hypothetical president that used drone strikes to kill US citizens abroad without Congressional authorization. Would that hypothetical president be a fascist?

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Anonymous #15 4w

agreed

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Anonymous #11 4w

1. No, there’s no basis for any of these things. They are fundamentally fascist and moves to gain power and support. Context does not matter when the leader of the country is literally violating the constitution to serve their own interests. 2. Yes, using drone strikes to kill citizens abroad is absolutely fascist. Sorry, you won’t have the ‘gotcha’ moment you so desperately want. Some of us condemn war crimes regardless of who is in office.

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Anonymous #23 4w

I thought democrats are all for gays now your making gay jokes

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Anonymous #26 4w

You thought wrong 🍆 sucker

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Anonymous #24 4w

So were you mad when Obama did it? Did you call him a fascist?

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Anonymous #24 4w

You think there is no basis in your own biased mind, or you’ve engaged with the argument. There’s a difference.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Valid

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Right because calling out violent evil me for murdering civilians in broad daylight is the same as doing the murder

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Anonymous #11 4w

Nobody that is making these claims is not also calling out Obama for his actions. You guys act like there’s a double standard when we actually do hold the same criteria across all politicians. We aren’t the ones making a messiah out of a sinister washed up businessman.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I actually read from news agencies, Snapchat from my friends who live in some of these places, local news stations of the areas effected, Reddit NSFW threads. And I compare stats, looking just at one news source isn’t research, it’s stupidity

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Anonymous #27 4w

That’s all well and good when the bad he’s doing is literally displacing families and endorsing the systematic oppression of various minority groups while also endorsing the killing of civilians and refusing to denounce hate groups

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Anonymous OP 4w

Im extremely well informed, and I still support what trump is doing

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Anonymous #16 4w

You’re not actually well informed, then. You’re a paedophile simp.

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Anonymous OP 4w

“I based my world view off of my disfunctional family because I’m mad at their political views” cry harder

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Anonymous #25 4w

And your a braindead libtard who doesn’t understand the first thing about the world outside of your own little life

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Oh so you support letting in 14 million undocumented immigrants who have killed raped and injured thousands here in the United States?

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Anonymous #11 4w

Was I mad when Obama did it? I don’t know, fellow college student. Do you think I was mad about foreign policy when I was in fucking elementary school? I swear to god right wingers have literally no critical thinking skills. Yeah, no shit I didn’t criticize Obama at the time because I was a fucking child. I don’t condone his actions now in retrospect because I’m an educated adult. I feel like this is basic civics.

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Anonymous #29 4w

All I hear is blah blah blah Wah Wah Wah. 😢😢😢 You ran over your buzz word limit for intellectual discourse. Try again.

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Anonymous #27 4w

You can just say ur illiterate we all can tell already

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I’ve lived in 3 states and stayed in 5 countries, study history and international relations

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Anonymous #29 4w

Leave it to libtards to throw last resort insults rather than arguments or discussions

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Anonymous #16 4w

Seems like you’ve been an immigrant at least four times in your life. Did you rape and injure thousands in your time abroad?

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Ah my bad, I’d get you the exact numbers but you see they kind of jumped over the wall and snuck in before we could tally them down

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Anonymous #29 4w

Nah because I went through customs and didn’t sneak in, hope this helps!

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Heartbreaking how you’ve never left and still think you know everything

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Anonymous #16 4w

So did a good portion of the people who are being detained and deported. If the countries you stayed in treated you like cannon fodder I’m sure you’d take issue with their governments as well

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Anonymous #16 4w

Heartbreaking how you have and still haven’t learned a thing

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Did you even fucking read?

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Anonymous #29 4w

Nonsensical name calling, because you don’t have an actual original thought…. Interesting choice. And you can see why we’re doomed as a country.

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Anonymous #16 4w

So if you could read you would see that what I replied to I didn’t throw the first punch and actually did provide an argument before they responded with hostility

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Anonymous #27 4w

We’re doomed as a country because people like you have a vote without being able to think critically about the tyranny unfolding around you

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Anonymous #27 4w

You’re a paedophile lover, is all that you’re saying.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Spain is actually a really worrying example because the only reason it lasted so long was because they kept their fascism internal and the hard right lasted the entire lifespan of Franco

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Anonymous #25 4w

No, I am not a Muslim.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Are you Christian

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Anonymous #29 4w

Did you read my fucking post you incoherent fuck? I am NOT a trump supporter/voter, I’m not a MAGA bandwagon guy. There’s things I dislike about policies he’s implemented, people he’s chosen to run certain things, not to mention how I abhor how he treats people. The thing is, I actually CAN think critically and recognize when there are things he does that actually benefit the nation. You on the other hand, have two brain cells and they’re both fighting for third place.

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Anonymous #29 4w

No I’m not a priest, either.

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Anonymous #25 4w

I’m not a priest either by the way.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Elucidate what good exactly he’s done that makes you so flippant towards all the bad

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Anonymous #29 4w

Worked towards energy independence, combatting narco terrorists, combatting human trafficking, strengthening the border, helping the DOD refocus on lethality and less on being a social experiment, working to replace the failed social security program. For starters.

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Anonymous #27 4w

We aren’t gonna see eye to eye on some of these points but as far as narco terrorism and strengthening the boarder I don’t necessarily agree that pardoning a major drug trafficker from Honduras and bombing foreign nations without due process is a plus for the war on drugs

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Anonymous #29 4w

Fuck I typed out a whole response and yy crashed. Abridged version: I agree with you on some of those issues, like bombing drug boats. Not a fan. I don’t believe it’s a “war crime” like many cry, but I don’t like it. See, there are things specifically I don’t like or whatever but I don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, and can recognize when there are overall benefits.

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Anonymous #31 4w

Pardon me, but you’re not allowed to have reasonable nuanced opinions on the internet. 5 points from Gryffindor

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Anonymous #27 4w

Awww😔 shucks.

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Anonymous #27 4w

The issue I have is that it’s not just trumps policies. It’s the cult of personality around him and every other concerning action from the party is traceable to him. And I think the “good” some read him as doing is far outweighed by the bad

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Anonymous #29 4w

So white Obama.

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Anonymous #29 4w

Because there is an objective double standard.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Nothing he does benefits anyone but the other rich paedos he keeps in company. He does not care about you or anyone else. Every day he has any influence is a detriment on a global scale.

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Anonymous #24 4w

So what you’re saying is that you’re basically a young adult with a big load of idealism and zero life experience. That’s all you had to say. You dislike violence and haven’t yet reached the realization that it’s necessary at times, and you believe the world began when you turned 18. Very normal and almost always grown out of.

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Anonymous #11 4w

I’m not the type to idolize politicians and I was a child when he was president. Why exactly do YOU feel this way?

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Anonymous #11 4w

How is that at all what they are saying. They said at the TIME they couldn’t form nuanced opinions but now with life experience and education they can say that any standards they have for Trump they are comfortable applying to Obama. They dislike trump and needless violence the same way they condemn Obama for his role in it

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Anonymous OP 4w

Both are dumbass

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Anonymous #15 4w

This. They don’t realize they are also actively downplaying what fascism really is. And then the classic “but they’re moving towards fascism” okay sure, but your claim wasn’t that they are close to fascism, you said “Trump IS fascist”. It’s just a buzzword now and it’s losing meaning. Ultimately this downplays the holocaust and the atrocities of WW2. We can find better ways of arguing against Trump than using a buzzword.

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Anonymous #27 4w

Not a Trump supporter but you understand the irony of talking about not having an original thought when I’d bet quite a bit of money you completely and totally align with the democrat party. Also, nonsensical name calling is not an argument, it’s a logical fallacy called an Ad Hominem, take an argumentation class or something.

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Anonymous #31 4w

Hey guys we found someone with critical thinking skills on this app, shocking!

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Anonymous #2 4w

“Not on a side” = I chose the wrong side and know it but I dont want hate on the internet

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Anonymous #2 4w

#2 you’re arguing with radical leftists, they cannot comprehend a moderate, such as 80% of our country is. They’ve been so locked up in echo chambers that the thought of someone who disagrees with them stirs up hatred. It’s funny because the radical MAGAs they hate so much act exactly the same as them, just on the other side of the coin.

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Anonymous #11 4w

No, what I’m saying is that all you’re doing is setting up bad faith strawman arguments because you know you have no merit. I agree that violence can be necessary for change. But bombing children is not an example of that.

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p sure it was the maga followers asking trump for permission to start a civil war but ok

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If you look at the numbers, the schools in the U.S. that spend the most money have to worst outcomes. It’s pretty shallow thinking to always default to “Problem; throw other people’s money at it.” That’s how you get several trillion dollars in debt and still have high school graduates that can’t read.

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Anonymous #29 4w

So, when is the condemning actually coming for Obama, because the left all seems to be hot for him every time he emerges from any one of his mansions and spews some platitudes. You can’t simultaneously condemn and fellate a person.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Here to say fascism does have a definition— a far right regime that hates education in order to further their nationalist agenda. Words have meaning!! And power!! Don’t let the stupid politicians who use them wrong tell you they don’t.

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Anonymous #11 4w

If a 12 year old girl’s diary detailing how she doesn’t feel she has any value because of the violence she suffered from Trump doesn’t matter to you, truthfully I don’t know what will

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Anonymous #44 4w

Ah that must be why the Nazis tried to formalize standardize and control education — education can be bad and indoctrinating. “Further their nationalist agenda” not controlling education can’t lead to a nationalist agenda else you’re admitting nationalism and fascism are innate feelings cultivated without education, what are you saying? That fascism is the innate human impulse and we have to educate people out of it? Even Robert Paxton, forefront of fascist studies admits, it defies definition

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Anonymous #44 4w

I could write a “12 year old girl’s” diary as well. If there were any evidence that were true, and Biden/Harris didn’t make sure it was public, then we really dodged a bullet by avoiding such incompetence in the Oval Office.

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Anonymous #44 4w

That. . . makes no sense. Uneducated people are less likely to bend towards fascism. That’s why Mussolini seized the Italian education system and made it free and compulsory. He made what could be called a “department of education” to indoctrinate students into fascism, because it’s not a natural tendency.

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Anonymous #11 4w

Nobody is coming for him because he is not a sitting president and no longer has sway over American policy

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