Anonymous #1 6d

I don’t have hundreds of options, everyone I meet is either too different or too nonchalant or both. I can’t date someone who makes me feel like I’m talking to a brick wall, and nobody is forcing men to act that way

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Anonymous OP 6d

Even if you say you don’t you actually do. You can go on any dating app and get a guy in five seconds. Then the question is do you know how to keep a conversation? Cause most girls I talk to have the conversation skills of a door. Yes no one is forcing guys to act that except if we want to have even a slight chance we have to do that

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Anonymous #1 6d

I know how to keep a conversation, it’s the guys that don’t. Hence why I made the post. I don’t have hundreds of options when the options are the equivalent of speaking to my dog

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Anonymous OP 6d

So I’m saying you do have options you are saying you don’t have quality options

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Anonymous #1 6d

Yes, that’s what this entire post is about

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Anonymous OP 6d

Well it’s a classic quality over quantity haha women have the quantity and men have neither haha

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Anonymous #1 6d

My favorite analogy: men are thirsty in a desert, women are thirsty in a contaminated swamp

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Anonymous #1 6d

wait so you’re willing to hide your entire personality just to be with her for the foreseeable future? respectfully i don’t understand how that won’t make you unhappy eventually

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Anonymous #2 6d

I’m not saying to hide your personality! I’m saying you have to balance being invested in someone and not at the same time

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Anonymous #1 6d

You don’t have to be a nonchalant shell of a person to not be clingy and overbearing

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Anonymous OP 6d

Ehhh haha

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Anonymous #1 6d

If you can’t find a healthy balance between being avoidant and being obsessive, that’s your problem, not women’s

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Anonymous OP 6d

The balance is dependent how the woman reacts haha. Women get the ick for stupid reasons haha

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Anonymous #1 6d

So do men. It’s almost like everyone’s their own person so it’s best to be an actual person and find someone who wants you the way you are… unless suppressing your personality and passions for the rest of your life just to get the attention of a woman who doesn’t love you for real is what you prefer

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Anonymous OP 6d

Do men get an ick from a girl giving the wrong look? Do they for when a girl wears a type of shoes they don’t like? I can go on haha

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Anonymous #1 6d

Yeah, a lot of men do get the ick from women wearing, saying, or doing harmless things they find annoying or unsexy. This isn’t even the point of the post, it’s starting to seem like you just took personal offense to my complaint and want to take it out on women

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Anonymous OP 6d

Anyways! So many guys these days are too caught up in their own self image that they turn themselves into a brick wall. It’s important to fight against toxic masculinity because I’m trying to be with someone who isn’t afraid of having hobbies and a full personality like me

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah so do women haha both are self centered! Curious what’s considered toxic masculinity to you?

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Anonymous #1 6d

You can Google it to get more examples

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah and I said to you. Not a Google search. Also men do typically need to suppress their emotions. We are told to

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Anonymous #1 6d

My definition is the same as the actual definition, which is what I just showed you. That is my answer too. You don’t need to suppress your emotions, but you’re too absorbed in toxic masculinity to realize that

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Anonymous OP 6d

I could very easily say I HAVE to shave my body hair, constantly wear makeup in public and in my photos, be submissive in relationships, etc because those are things that are expected of women in our current society ruled by gender roles. But in reality I don’t have to do those things. Some people hate me for it, but I’m myself.

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Anonymous OP 6d

You’re assuming I have a lot of toxic masculinity haha I actually am typically seen as a feminine energy man or a “beta” Also women typically say once they see a man cry all the attraction is gone

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Anonymous #1 6d

Yes you are a victim of toxic masculinity. And you are perpetuating it too. Nobody is forcing you to restrict yourself to a specific set of unhealthy gender roles, as I’ve already explained to you

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Anonymous OP 5d

How am I a victim haha very curious to hear this

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Anonymous #1 5d

Because you fully believe that you “have” to suppress your emotions and personality to be with women, which isn’t true

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Anonymous OP 5d

Not personality just most sad emotions haha

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Anonymous #1 5d

Yeah, and you don’t actually have to. Toxic masculinity is the belief that men should do that, and it’s perpetuated by both men and women

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Anonymous OP 5d

What if we observe that when we show emotions that the woman looses all attraction and even says it?

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Anonymous #1 5d

oops i missed a lot. aa yeah i get wanting to be invested in someone but i think it’s healthier to present the best version of yourself, like, eg to present myself as someone who’s considerate or confident etc because i’d want to improve in that way.

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Anonymous #1 5d

isn’t that also weeding out the people that are just not compatible with you, maturity wise? i think most of the loss of no longer adhering to toxic masculinity is that people that only care about you in terms of how well you fit stereotypes leave. idk lol like cool only people who actually give a shit about me remain and also… do you value not being single more than you want to find a woman that likes you authentically?

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Anonymous #1 5d

She is also perpetuating toxic masculinity, and not someone you should want to spend the rest of your time with. I seriously don’t understand why you’d want to be with someone who expects you to be someone else and act a certain way the rest of your life instead of spending more time to find someone who actually loves you, values your emotions, and isn’t sexist

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Anonymous OP 5d

What if it’s an overwhelming experience of men?

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Anonymous #1 5d

An overwhelming experience of women is being told by society and men that they need to be thin, hairless, uneducated, dress and act a certain way, but they don’t actually have to. Men don’t have to follow sexist gender roles either. Sure you might have fewer dating options, just as the women who don’t conform to misogynistic standards are less desirable by men, but would you rather be with someone who is only with you because they’re treating you like an actor playing a role for them?

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’m getting tired of repeating myself over and over to you. Either you want things to get better or you don’t. If you want to completely change who you are and be miserable bottling up your emotions (often leading to outbursts and violence against romantic partners by the way!) that’s your choice I guess

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Anonymous OP 5d

It’s interesting how you continue to say it’s society or men perpetuating this. Never women that perpetuate it or are part of the problem

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Anonymous #1 5d

My mistake, yes women can absolutely pressure other women into conforming to gender roles Everything else I’ve said still stands

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Anonymous OP 5d

Ok just making sure haha some women can’t even admit when they are part of the problem

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