Anonymous #1 5w

Exactly my point.

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Anonymous #2 5w

So stupid. You voted for innocent people to get killed while they’re standing up for what’s right. Seek help.

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Anonymous #3 5w

You know people talk about how having guns protects people from shootings like this but every time there is a shooting nobody there with a gun helps out. It feels like that just isn’t a good solution

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Anonymous #2 5w

You would’ve supported the gestapo btw

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Anonymous bongbong22 5w

“The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.” Doing their duties means nothing. The lay is not a moral guideline. Slavery was legal. Segregation was legal. Spousal rape was legal.

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Anonymous #7 5w

*law not lay

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Anonymous #7 5w

If you obstruct a government official from conducting business you should just get away with it with no repercussions?

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Anonymous #4 5w

Ice agents deserve it. They are promoting and allowing for violence against other people and that is not okay morally and there is no way to excuse it as okay

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Anonymous #7 5w

You’re arguing for morality, is it not morally just to protect yourself from danger?

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Anonymous #7 5w

what?, the agent almost was taken under the vehicle and the lady do not listen to orders to get out of the vehicle, regardless the lady broke the law and almost put harm on the agent

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Anonymous #5 5w

Killing innocent people??? Oh you mean the people that illegally came into our country under Bidens rule

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Anonymous #3 5w

That was the post I was quoting actually but maybe it got removed. It was supposed to be a response to “only police should have guns”

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Anonymous #9 5w

He didn’t let them into the country illegally. He allowed asylum seekers to pursue an immigration case, you know, the way people get into the country legally?

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Anonymous #7 5w

Sooooo… out of those 10 million people, how many do you think were asylum seeking? Biden left the borders wide open dude.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Right the only issue with that is, how do you prevent criminals from having guns? You see, that’s the issue with the leftist gun control argument. They want to make it impossible for law-abiding citizens to get guns, but provide no method of restricting criminals from that.

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Anonymous bongbong22 5w

No dude wtf stop for a second. You are literally missing the point. You sound like a nazi rn with this question. If I stopped a Nazi soldier from taking my neighbor away on no grounds and without a warrant, is it morally correct for me to be shot?

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Anonymous #5 5w

Oh? So abortion isn’t killing innocent people?

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Anonymous #7 5w

What is it with your side calling people nazis? My god. You can’t even have a civil conversation without throwing derogatory terms in the air

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Anonymous #4 5w

Innocent people who have been proven to be citizens are sitting in prisons and CECOT, and that doesn’t bother you, but the single agent, who was harassing someone and the lady defends said person by running the agent over, gets all of your sympathy?

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Anonymous #7 5w

You’re also talking about “no grounds”. Obviously you can stop the “nazi” bc they have no right. In the actual case that you didn’t make up in your head to fuel your gotcha point, she was blocking government business. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

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Anonymous #7 5w

Also, comparing government officials that are there to protect US citizens from criminals and terrorist to nazis is so wild. Nazis killed millions of people, not just Jews. They have no common ground what so ever

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Anonymous bongbong22 5w

Why doesn’t the Nazi have a right? Is it because they don’t have a warrant?

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Anonymous #7 5w

You know what ignore that question. You aren’t going to see the light so I’m not even going to bother

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Anonymous #9 5w

No dumb ahh😂

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Anonymous #7 5w

I see what you’re trying to do here. You’re trying to intertwine ICE agents and Nazis into the same group to make the agents look bad. If you come into our country illegally, you are going to get deported. I’m sorry they don’t show up with flowers and a teddy bear and drive you to the airport so you can get on a private jet. That’s just not how the world works. You came here illegally, you know you came here illegally. It’s a CRIME to do so. You will be apprehended and transported appropriately

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Anonymous #7 5w

It was just getting good

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Anonymous #7 5w

Dang it!

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Anonymous #9 5w

Yes, innocent people dumbass. Immigrants, many of whom built this country, work the hardest, pay taxes, and still get blamed for everything. Being undocumented doesn’t make someone disposable

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Anonymous #9 5w

An abortion is popping a few pills and having a heavier than usual period 👍

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Anonymous #9 5w

Stupid comparison. Abortion is a medical decision made by a pregnant person. Deportation, violence, or state harm against living people is not the same thing.

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Anonymous #7 5w

They have grounds. Person is here illegally. You don’t need a warrant. Person is here illegally. Morality also depends on the person. I’m sure the soldier would argue self defense if you tried to hurt them. But you throw the term nazi around so people can’t defend their side without sounding like a Nazi. There’s how you people operate. Could’ve said any type of soldier, but you went for the worst kind in history

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Anonymous bongbong22 5w

All I am going to add to this is that if you are trying to state your position and someone compares you to a Nazi and you can’t defend yourself without sounding like a nazi, then you probably are. Hope that helps

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Anonymous #7 5w

it’s a tragedy regardless but she put herself in the position by obstructing justice and the agent had to act in a split second to protect himself from being run over, i wish the outcome was not this regardless

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Anonymous #7 5w

Deserving or not you are SICK in the head if you think just because someone does what they do you get to just run over them for fun…get your damn head checked.

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Anonymous jesusiskinggg 5w

fr her actions have consequences it just sucks that the agent had to use lethal force gonna go through his mind for a while

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Anonymous #4 5w

I hope they vividly play in his head 24/7 nonstop until he develops full blown psychosis and delivers justice upon himself

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Anonymous #14 5w

Nobody was injured or harmed aside from the now deceased innocent woman

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Anonymous #1 5w

I hope you soften your heart and not wish negativity on anyone…I’m sure you wouldn’t want someone to say the same about you given your wrongs to other people right?

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Anonymous #4 5w

They deserve to get run over

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Anonymous #17 5w

But they couldve been. She used her car as a weapon after refusing orders from federal agents

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Anonymous #4 5w

If you look at the video the officer who shot her had his gun drawn before she was accelerating towards him, moreover if you look at the front tires they’re turning AWAY from the officers as she gets shot. She was clearly just trying to leave, not run over an officer.

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Anonymous desert_musical_note 5w

She didnt try to run them over. Just watch the video. The officer who shot her had his gun drawn at her before she was accelerating towards them and her tire was turned away from the cop, not into them. She was clearly just trying to leave

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Anonymous #19 5w

His life was in danger. It was self defense and a homeland security official just said he was doing exactly what he was trained to do.

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Anonymous #19 5w

in the moment the agent doesn’t have the time to look at the tires, he was focused on the woman not complying, there was no time for him to recognize where the tires were, only that the car was moving in his direction

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Anonymous #4 5w

She turned her tires because she didn’t have anywhere else to go.

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Anonymous #16 5w

Exactly

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Anonymous #16 5w

Okay nice screenshot now actually watch the fucking clip the turns the wheel to get out and he shoots her. There was no reason for him to shoot her. He wasn’t in any danger she attempted to drive away

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Anonymous desert_musical_note 5w

Literally watch the clip his life was not in danger 😭😭 holy shit stop falling for it

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Anonymous #7 5w

Stand in front of an accelerating car and tell me u dont feel like youre in danger

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Anonymous #14 5w

If it’s not coming toward me then no??? Again: watch the fucking clip

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Anonymous #14 5w

Agreed

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Anonymous jesusiskinggg 5w

Literally maga conservatives do this all the time holy hypocrite

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Anonymous #7 5w

“Penal Code § 245(a)(1). A violation occurs when defendant acts willfully, with an awareness that the car was likely to directly cause and probably result in the application of force or great bodily injury to another, directly, or by pushing something else into another.” These are the grounds on which someone can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon which also justifies the use of lethal force in order to actively defend oneself against the “defendant”.

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Anonymous jesusiskinggg 5w

Bro if I shot a woman 5 times in the face, I'd be expecting people to wish such things upon me. I think I should get beat for basic little mistakes, so yeah, hopefully people would want me held accountable if I brutally murdered someone

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Anonymous #1 5w

Ice is a federal agency tasked with border security. That involves law pertaining to the border. Hence, law enforcement. What are you talking about?

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Anonymous #7 5w

No they do not. They are just following trumps orders and doing their job.

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Anonymous desert_musical_note 5w

What? There’s stack upon stacks of border policy that was written for them after 9/11. Trump wasn’t involved in that at all. Of course they, as well as all federal agencies are guided by his administration because he is the current head of the administration that happens to be in office. If it were Obama, would you be saying the same thing?

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Anonymous desert_musical_note 5w

“The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.” This was the response to Nazi soldiers who claimed to have being only following orders during Nuremberg. Following orders does not mean you are just or innocent. Slavery was legal. Spousal rape was also legal. The law is NOT a moral guideline. Following orders does not mean you are doing good

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Anonymous #2 5w

All I smell is bitch

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Anonymous #25 5w

Ditto

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Anonymous #23 5w

And of course, securing the border requires shooting a random woman in the face multiple times. That makes sense.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 5w

And of course, being asked by law enforcement to step out of the vehicle means to drive towards an agent, putting his life in danger.

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Anonymous #23 5w

So true….. that’s y this and most truthful things ie facts get down voted on here bc people can’t handle the truth.

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Anonymous #7 5w

7 you are one ass backward thinking/ believing person. You’re part of the problem.

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Anonymous #27 5w

no I’m pretty sure that you’re fucked up for defending domestic terrorists like ICE.

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Anonymous #9 5w

you do realize that firearms don’t just spawn in, right? government-controlled manufacturing and distribution would massively restrict the availability of illegal firearms. you can’t just make a gun in a kitchen lol

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 5w

She was an American citizen too. A white American citizen

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Anonymous #27 5w

Have you watched the video? No one was in danger. He shot her as she was driving away

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Anonymous #16 5w

You’re so maliciously ignorant. Justifying the death of a mother and American citizen. You can’t even watch the next 2 seconds of the clip. Go fuck yourself.

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Anonymous #16 5w

By the way, not only did he fire two shots at her, once in her head, they blocked any healthcare from getting access to her body for about 15 minutes.

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Anonymous #28 5w

Except you can. You can make them by hand, 3d print them, order them on the dark web, etc.

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Anonymous #28 5w

They're pretty simple machines it's not some rocket science the government can gate-keep

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Anonymous #31 5w

“order them on the dark web” again these things don’t just spawn in 💀 they have to source them from somewhere. and the other two options are both harder AND result in worse results which decrease lethality. I’m not gonna discuss this with someone who doesn’t put in the bear minimum research…

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Anonymous #28 5w

Okay… so what’s stopping people from illegally shipping them from Mexico? You really you don’t think that happens? To me it sounds like you’re in favor of removing the 2nd amendment

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Anonymous #31 5w

Buy one then. Go on. Do it.

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Anonymous #9 5w

have you ever heard of customs? also holy fucking strawman, I just think people shouldn’t have assault rifles. I can take out a home intruder with my pistol. automatic weapons are not for self defense.

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Anonymous #28 5w

i'm not sure if you're aware how the dark web works, it's not like they only sell government controlled products. and there are 3d printed guns with tighter groupings than most commercially available firearms. if you think gun control would stop criminals from obtaining them, look at narcotics. it's not like fentanyl just spawns in but that's pretty easy to get your hands on.

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Anonymous #31 5w

YOU CANT MAKE GUNS IN A KITCHEN WE’VE COVERED THIS holy fuck

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Anonymous #31 5w

So tell me why Europe has far less gun violence than America? The same “black market” would exist everywhere, and they also have access to 3D printers.

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Anonymous #28 5w

Actually, would you mind looking up the assassination of Shinzo Abe? Killed by a handmade gun.

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Anonymous #32 5w

Then why wouldn’t she comply with a lawful order? People who aren’t doing anything wrong don’t drive off from law enforcement after being told to step out of their vehicles.

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Anonymous #23 5w

She was legit trying to leave, and when she tried of drive off once an agent tried to force his way into her car, he shot her four times in the head. Does that seem like a reasonable response to someone breaking a “lawful order”?

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Anonymous #32 5w

You’re missing the point that she should have just stopped driving and complied gosh some of y’all love the victim card fr, should he have shot her and instead follow her to make an arrest yes. Should she had just complied in the first place YES

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Anonymous jesusiskinggg 5w

100% agree

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Anonymous #23 4w

Great. Hand made guns exist. Is your bum ass making one? Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t regulate guns. This is such a non sequitur.

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