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hot take but sex work shouldn't be encouraged. it's not glamorous. it's not cute. it's not safe. just not reliable everyone deserves respect and basic human decency but let's stop pretending that it's just another job
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Anonymous 17h

if you majored in something without guaranteed job stability, and you decide to strip for money , ok. but let's not glamorize it because millions of women got into it at 14, are being pimped out, were in poverty and had no other options, etc A FEW SUCCESS STORIES DONT ERASE THE SHITTY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE MAJORITY OF SEX WORKERS ARE IN.

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Anonymous 17h

It is another job and would be a lot safer if we stopped criminalizing it and treating it as such. I agree on the glamorization but other than that nah

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Anonymous 17h

You’re making a valid point, and I feel like people are intentionally choosing not to engage with what you’re actually saying because they want to pick apart one part of your wording. Obviously sex work is a job. Nobody is saying people who do sex work aren’t workers or don’t deserve respect and basic human decency. But “it’s a job” doesn’t automatically mean it’s comparable to every other job.

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Anonymous 13h

Women’s bodies are used for their sex appeal in movies, ads, tv, everything, in all of these industries, all run by men for thousands of years Women doing their OWN work in their own ways online (like OF) making 100% their own profits is one of the first times in history women have created personal & financial autonomy at the current huge scale. Female driven, safe sex work removes men from being the owners and benefactors of women’s bodies and stops them from holding the social narrative

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Anonymous 17h

If sex work was regarded and decriminalized with would be reliable. Almost no work is glamorous , cute, or reliable. It’s just another job

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Anonymous 13h

it should just be another job, but instead of putting ANY amount of protections in for workers, we criminalize it. which…. inherently makes it more dangerous 😭

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Anonymous 13h

Hot take but go be a republican somewhere else

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Decriminalization could absolutely make it safer in certain ways, but it doesn’t magically eliminate the social attitudes that contribute to sexual entitlement, objectification, boundary violations, and exploitation within the industry. A person isn’t suddenly going to develop respect for a sex worker’s boundaries just because the transaction is legal.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Decriminalizing something can change the legal circumstances surrounding it, but it doesn’t automatically change the mentality surrounding it.

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 17h

LMFAO lets be ffr. what other jobs require that you let strangers into your pussy so that you can afford rent and feed your kids?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

There’s jobs that risk ur literal physical health if you aren’t safe (any job requiring PPE) so idk why we making dick and cooch so special

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 17h

It’s not just physical health or physical safety. Sex work and the porn industry also perpetuate harmful social attitudes that affect people who aren’t choosing to participate in it at all. It contributes to sexual entitlement, the objectification of sex workers, women, and entire demographics or professions, boundary violations, and exploitation. I literally cannot tell someone I’m a teacher on here without someone telling me about their fantasy of fucking a teacher.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Sex work is one of the oldest professions as long as there has been pussy there has been sex work. The social attitudes you are referring to are from pornography itself as well as misogyny and the disrespect directed towards women. To blame SW for that inherently when it’s not the one to blame inherently is just misplaced.

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 17h

Just because something has existed for thousands of years doesn’t inherently make it okay or beyond criticism. And pornography, misogyny, and the sex industry are not these completely separate things that we can neatly compartmentalize. They go hand in hand. They reinforce each other. And I’m not blaming sex workers as a monolith. I’m criticizing the industry, the people who perpetuate it, and the people who actively participate in and reinforce the harmful attitudes that come with it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Ok bro idc to argue this lol agree to disagree

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

There are people who engage with these things who absolutely contribute to the problems I’m talking about. If you actually detach yourself from the topic for a second and read what I said, you’d see that I’m talking about the bigger picture and the societal consequences. I’m not individually blaming every person involved, but people who participate in and perpetuate these things do contribute to those problems, and that’s just facts.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16h

Ok

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

When the conversation gets difficult, you’re just going to run away with “agree to disagree.” That’s such a cop-out. You don’t get to dismiss the entire conversation just because you don’t want to engage with the uncomfortable parts of what I’m saying.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16h

I’m not uncomfortable at all I just don’t care to continue. I don’t have the facts studies or intellect needed to refute ur points with 100% integrity. I believe what I believe and you do too so that’s fine

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

Then why did you engage in the first place? If you’re admitting that you don’t have the research, facts, or knowledge to actually respond to my points with integrity, why are you arguing against them to begin with? You can’t spend all of this time telling me I’m wrong and then, once you can’t substantiate your own position, suddenly say you just don’t care to continue. You clearly care enough to keep responding, so let’s not pretend you’re above the conversation now.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16h

You responded to my comment I didn’t respond to yours lol, I just don’t care to go paragraph for paragraph with you. I know you want to be right so bad so here, you’re right 😛

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

i’m talking about you replying to me at all… and you’re still replying. You clearly do care. You just know that you can’t argue against what I’m saying because I’m right.

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

I don’t need you to sit here and tell me that I’m clearly right on a topic that I’m so obviously correct on

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16h

Ok lol

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Anonymous replying to -> beestboy 16h

You’re really showing me how little you care by repeatedly coming back to respond.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

im a left leaning feminist but ok bud

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13h

Leftists and feminists generally support bodily autonomy, sex positivity, and leaving other peoples business tf alone. Ur moderate if anything, and your boomer ass posts belong on Facebook ✌️✌️✌️

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

is being against the glamorization of sex work.... bad? is encouraging women to have avenues of making money (degrees & stable careers) that arent dependent on (usually) men, bad?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13h

a woman w/o a degree working the counter at a struggling game store meets your criteria

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13h

I would not recommend that someone do sex work right now given the state of the industry & how common it is for it to be dangerous. that said, sex work is not inherently dangerous nor demeaning, and there are safe(r) ways to do it

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12h

Sexuality is one of the few true powers/influences women hold over men in a patriarchal society, so I think it’s dangerous to over-police / demonize it

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12h

“Women are making the content themselves” does not mean women suddenly control the industry or the systems surrounding it. OnlyFans itself takes 20% of creators’ earnings, and the company is not female-owned. While some women might have the autonomy to engage with platforms like this, that doesn’t mean men have somehow been removed from benefiting from the ownership, profit, or power structures surrounding sexual content. That’s just not true.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12h

I think you’re conflating sexual autonomy with being supportive of the sex industry. Being sex-positive and believing people should have autonomy over their own bodies does not mean you have to believe every industry built around sex is inherently good or beyond criticism. I can support someone’s right to make their own sexual choices while still criticizing an industry for exploitation, objectification, and the ways it reinforces harmful stereotypes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 12h

You’re inferring things I haven’t said & disagreeing with them, but my point has not changed. Thx for coming to my ted talk & have a lovely day

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 12h

I think you need to learn more about the modern sex industry before preaching to people about it..?. 👀 Like obviously, no one supports the entire industry and why would you think I’m saying the entire industry is beyond criticism ? You’re focusing on the example, not the point so I don’t see much point elaborating.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11h

I’m not sure what utopia you think the modern sex industry exists in, but that is not the reality of the industry I’m talking about. I’m fully aware that it’s not one monolithic thing and that there are people who participate in it willingly and have positive experiences. That does not erase the exploitation, objectification, and harmful stereotypes that also exist within it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11h

If you disagree with the specific criticisms I made, address those instead of telling me I need to ‘learn more’ about an industry I’m clearly discussing beyond the surface level.

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