Anonymous #1 15h

How will you feel as a mother if women naturally had a predisposed hatred and fear of him regardless of what he did?

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Anonymous OP 15h

i'd understand that they have definitely had experiences in the past that made them feel that way, i'd hope if they're around him that he could prove to them through his actions that he is truly understanding and caring but unfortunately that is life.

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Anonymous #1 15h

And if they still hate him? If they accuse him of rape and reinforcing oppression even if he’s like 10?

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Anonymous OP 15h

i can assure you no 10 year old who doesn't have hate instilled in them won't act in a rude way that gets them accused of things like that babes

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Anonymous #1 15h

most younger boys who get accused of that act like the adolescence kid

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Anonymous #1 15h

It doesn’t matter his actions. Men do those actions. He’s a man

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Anonymous OP 15h

you just sound dumb and like you're trying to win an argument atp have a nice day😭

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Anonymous #1 15h

I’m not making an argument. I want to know how you would handle this cuz this is a real scenario

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Anonymous #1 15h

This is a scenario your son will be exposed to the moment he steps foot into society. Is his wellbeing worth compromising for a side who won’t even take him as an ally?

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Anonymous OP 15h

well i am infertile and have endometriosis so i can assure you no son of mine will be exposed to this 🫩

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Anonymous #1 15h

it's unfortunate that men are so conniving they created this situation, and also there's very few women who from the first meeting of a man want him dead, it's usually given reason by : comments, actions, etc.

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Anonymous #1 15h

Like these?

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Anonymous OP 15h

the word "dubious" means not immediately trusting. nobody should ever be immediately trusting of anybody until they know them

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Anonymous OP 15h

like genuinely i don't get the point you're tryna make

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Anonymous #1 15h

Could you at least empathize with someone’s son born into this situation? It’s never been based on individual comments or actions of a single person. Someone’s newborn son will inevitably be feared because of the statistics of other men no matter what he will do with his life

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Anonymous #1 15h

A son will be distrusted and feared in society. Is that clear?

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Anonymous OP 15h

i can empathize with somebody who is truly being affected by this when they don't deserve it like, not being able to have a job, or hold a friend group, or anything. but it's LIFE unfortunately. people are hated despite doing nothing for ALL SORTS of things: being gay, being a poc.

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Anonymous #1 15h

So what would be the best outcome for someone in this scenario? Being born on the right side? If you’re born a man, you can’t transition to the other side even if you feel connected to women cuz now both sides won’t accept you. You can’t build a life around leading a legal system overhaul in charge of feminism because the community will chalk up years of efforts as mansplaining or another man stripping women of independence

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Anonymous #1 15h

If it’s just life, then the only solution is to be born a white man in the upper class

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Anonymous OP 15h

Okay sure

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Anonymous OP 15h

yes that's right, people are horrible and will dislike you for no reason no matter who you are!

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Anonymous #1 15h

I’m just bouncing off ideas rn from an alternative perspective cuz I am genuinely curious about this kind of thing. Do you think investing in mental healthcare and treatment as a society can play a significant role in breaking down these kinds of barriers?

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Anonymous OP 15h

Hey as a man, your feelings are not important. Womens safety is. if a woman is afraid of me she has every right to be given the constant fear they live in. It’s up to us to solve this. It’s not on women. We are the ones responsible for making the world safer for them and educating men and setting an example. Put your feelings aside and stand up to bad men. Call them out. Yeah I’m sure it sucks that women won’t immediately trust you. They shouldn’t.

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Anonymous OP 14h

I didn’t hate women or christians or white people more than other people because I saw the worst in both sides. Within the course of a couple years hate consumed me. Not for anyone specific. People as a whole. I felt stripped of all the control in my life that my identity, my achievements, my personality, my experiences were overshadowed by what society thought of me and all I wanted for years was to never exist. A lot of bad things happened during this period that I saw stemmed from society

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Anonymous OP 14h

I felt damned by the world. I was raped in the past by a family member and even when I wanted justice, I was mocked by both men and women. Got called “lucky” by the men and “what happened to men who defended themselves” or “this is the problem with men” from the women’s side. Even when I didn’t want to testify what happened out of fear of this backlash, I was accused of fake accusations

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Anonymous OP 14h

When I chose to stand with feminism, I was often excluded from organizations and events I participated in. Treated like an outsider or a threat when I just wanted to find peace and safety with people who went through the same thing. At a rally my arm was broken after an outbreak happened accusing me and some other guys as infiltrators pretending to be feminist just looking for sex

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Anonymous OP 14h

After I recovered I tried focusing on things like my heritage or lgbtq to find community in. But mexican americans are looked down upon in mexico and my people immigrated to america before I was born so I was unwelcome by both mexicans and americans. Even feuding mexican american heritages based on regional roots. The lgbtq community wasn’t welcoming either when I tried to transition because the way I wanted to wasn’t considered full commitment or for the wrong reasons

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Anonymous OP 14h

My point is to anyone reading this, being excluded from every community built up a mindset of resentment and hate not towards anyone specific but people as a whole. When I was at my worst, I attempted to take the lives of a group of people in my dorms. It didn’t matter who they were or if they were men or women, they were people to me and that was worse

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Anonymous OP 14h

I ended up getting the help I needed in therapy to work through these issues over the course of 3 years and based on my experience, I realized educating people wasn’t the problem. I was at a liberal college and what mattered to me at my most vulnerable wasn’t the statistics or the systematic injustices. It was the mindset that nothing you would do would matter in society. They already decided how to look at you. And people were the problem with everything that was wrong ever

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Anonymous OP 14h

I bring this up cuz I truly think that the biggest way to fix the majority of the problems with society is the prioritization of mental health advocacy. Dissect the flaws of deep rooted trauma before it can spark as violence. You can convict every murderer in the world but it won’t stop the rate of people who want to kill. I would’ve been convicted and people would have been dead if I didn’t get help

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Anonymous OP 14h

History shows the easiest thing to do was find a scapegoat if something was wrong with society and look how that turned out. Emotions stack up and blur rational thought and I think mental health treatment can help regulate these problems and look beyond biases and think neutrally when we all can put away fear long enough to solve issues together outside of communities. When we realize gender or race or sexuality doesn’t make one person more human than the other

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Anonymous OP 14h

Don’t fight for repression or condemnation or criminalization. Advocate for rehabilitation and recognition of warning signs so we don’t have to keep dividing people, we can cure the spread of hate when we dissect it and overcome it. People can change people before they can hurt people. My life is an example of that

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