
Because the effects of slavery have been removed from modern society. Every African has had enough time to be their own person and pursue their American dream. The election of Obama was the final nail in the false “generational trauma” idea. We won’t forget slavery, but don’t use that as justification for any modern action. It is now in the past, just like the Maine, Zimmerman Telegram, Pearl Harbor, and Boston Massacre. Those actions are too far back to matter now. But 9/11 is not too far back.
Well one is over 150 years ago and one is 25 years. The people that suffered because 911 are still alive. Same thing with Pearl Harbor. The people that suffered under that tragic event have passed away. As it was over 80 years ago. Also if you want to talk more about modern slavery look into Africa, Middle East, and Asian countries. The whole military of Eritrea are considered slaves. There are more slaves today compared to back then.
Slavery is acknowledge. Like how do you want them to acknowledge it? There’s a holiday for the ending of slavery, there were repercussions after the civil war. Do you not know your history? As it feels like you don’t. Just a post to bash on 911 when people that are still alive from that event.
Babe, you’re trying to downplay slavery by saying it happened a long time ago and things like 9/11 and Peal Harbor matter MORE because people from that time period are still alive Like I said, I’m just following the logic YOU provided. In that case, 150 years from now when everyone who was alive during 9/11 passes away, will people still call enough to “Never Forget?” I care enough to “never forget” about slavery even though it happened 150 years ago in the United States, but…
actually, if you want to talk about modern slavery, you don’t even have to look outside the US forced labor, performed by captives living under inhumane conditions, compensated at literal slave wages, is not at all uncommon within our prison system. and that can’t even be cleanly separated from the US’ history of racialized slavery when we *know* that the so-called “criminal justice” system in this country disproportionately targets POC, especially black people
And I was never arguing whether or not slavery is acknowledged or not. Anyone can open a history book and see that slavery is definitely a chapter. Now is the TRUE history of slavery, or just the squeaky-clean, censored version of slavery… that’s debatable. But there ARE people in the US who do NOT WANT to acknowledge slavery “because it happened a long time ago” You cannot argue that.
of course! it was purely coincidence that out of the many equally “off-topic” posts from within that same hour, this was the only one you felt the need to reply to with “not a confession” (I did scroll back and check) probably you just printed out screencaps of all the posts you deemed “out of place”, taped em to a wall, and then threw a dart while blindfolded to determine which one you should respond to
The logic they provided was in the first god damn comment they left “well one is over 150 years ago and one is 25 years ago and people are still alive” His logic is that the impact and deaths that occurred during 9/11 hold higher value than the deaths that occurred during American Chattel Slavery because they happened more recently. That’s a weird perspective imo. Just because no one’s alive today from that time period doesn’t make their deaths, or slavery in general, less important.
First and foremost, it’s pretty clear you’re not even reading his comments or what he’s actually saying, because if you were, you wouldn’t have such a wildly different interpretation of what’s being said. Secondly, you’re already assuming what MY logic is simply because I’m not blindly agreeing with the words coming out of your mouth. Hello? That’s weird.
And regarding my “walking into the conversation” comment, I meant exactly what I said. You walked into an existing exchange with 5, saw that they disagreed with you, and immediately presumed you knew exactly what their logic was instead of actually asking them to clarify. I never said you didn’t start the post or create the conversation.
It’s MY post. They walked into MY convo. I’m not arguing with y’all cuz clearly there’s no debate to be had. Making up fake arguments in your head to validate your weird dismissal of slavery. What is there to disagree/agree with? This person arguing that people who died during 9/11 should be valued more than people who died during slavery. Just because people who experienced 9/11 are still alive doesn’t make the deaths caused by 9/11 any more tragic than the deaths caused by American slavery.
Like I said before, what I meant by “you walked into a conversation” was that you chose to engage in a conversation with them. I think it’s pretty obvious I was not saying that you interrupted some pre-existing conversation. I genuinely don’t understand how that is so difficult for you to comprehend. Something that basic and fundamental is really that difficult for you to understand? Genuinely.
What 5 is saying is that they think recent tragedies matter MORE than previous tragedies because there are more people alive who have personal accounts of that specific event. I disagree and think that's ridiculous to say think 9/11 matters more than slavery. "Never forget" should apply to both. MY ISSUE is that there are MANY American who want to stop talking about slavery BECAUSE IT HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO. SO I was POINTING OUT how that could eventually happen to 9/11 BASED ON 5’S LOGIC.
You keep talking about my “dismissal of slavery” when I genuinely have not said a single thing about slavery in this conversation. I was commenting on the way you were interpreting and responding to 5’s argument. That’s it. You’ve somehow invented an entire position for me and are now arguing against something I never said. At this point, you’re not responding to what I’m actually saying at all. I feel bad for your professors.
Yeah, I never said anything against the fact they chose to engage with your post and you chose to reply. That’s actually my entire fucking point. Again I haven’t even said anything about slavery. Please keep proving the point that you’re creating assumptions in your head and enforcing it upon people
I’m not putting words into ANYONE’S mouth. If #5 wants to clarify there more than fucking welcome to. But THAT is how I and all the people upvoting in the comments interpreted their responses. And I UNDERSTAND what your point is, and you’ve ALREADY FUCKING MADE IT so what is the point in you replying?
Why would anyone want to clarify to someone who is being outright bitch for no fucking reason? You are putting words in people’s mouth every time you make an assumption you’re putting words into people’s mouth. Anytime that you implied that this is your logic that is putting words in people’s mouth because no one has clarified exactly what they feel and think to you. Myself included. Also, typing in all caps doesnt really do anything. It just makes you look like you’re crashing out.
You’re literally crashing out because I said you’re being a mind-reader. My entire point, and I cannot make this any clearer, is that you keep trying to assign your own assumptions to people’s thoughts and opinions instead of simply asking for clarification and having a normal adult conversation with them. That has been my only point this entire time.
And you’re still proving my point by sitting here telling me that I agree with 5 and that I’m somehow a slavery apologist when I have literally never addressed that topic. I never said whether I agree or disagree with 5. I never said anything about slavery at all. You’re assigning me thoughts and opinions simply because I’m not agreeing with you, while simultaneously proving the exact point I’ve been making about you mind-reading people instead of actually having a conversation with them.
Do not listen to this person they are demonstrating false equivalency. The laws of slavery may have ended at some point but those laws evolved into exclusionary laws like redlining, segregation, share cropping, prison pipeline, over policing of black persons. And no we don’t have laws that make us drink from different water fountains anymore but those laws became negativr social stigmas that can be directly taken from the time of slavery when black persons were not seen as humans or equal
I and many others completely support putting prisoners to free labor. Going to prison is a choice. Any person is free to not make that choice. When people say “slavery” they mean the slavery which made people be born as slaves. Now every single person is born free. That slavery is gone. We can move on from that.
also not true… you should really research things before speaking on them. there are still countries w ppl that are born into slavery. they just started calling it something else. also pls go tell that to all the falsely convicted ppl in our prisons. i’m sure they’d love to hear that they shouldnt be treated like humans.