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counterpoint: if a person desperately wants sexual attention but knows they don’t really have the energy to show someone else a good time in return, opting to pay an adult industry worker for their time & attention is a responsible choice
Sorry if this isn’t very woke of me but I will judge you for going to the strip club like that’s gross of you 😭
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Anonymous 1w

as opposed to like, just being a boring and selfish date or hookup. because this way the person they’re receiving that attention from is still actually benefiting in some way! this is a pretty well-established tenet of the feminist argument in defense of sex work

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Anonymous 1w

i agree, just because someone doesn’t support their line of work doesn’t make them any less human

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Anonymous 1w

definition of objectifying women btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

I’m a little confused, are you saying that you do or don’t support the line of work

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

i support sex workers/adult industries, as long as they’re safe wherever they choose to do it i see no reason to want them to stop

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

objectification by definition involves an element of dehumanization, and anyone who’s worked a client-facing position in the adult industry (myself included) can tell you that dehumanization does not automatically come with the territory of being hired for sexual attention. if you believe otherwise, you’re operating off of a misconception about how these exchanges actually go down in real life

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

literally buying a person is objectifying and ur actually slow ash of u think otherwise 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I also think it’s interesting that you jumped to “objectifying women” when my post was explicitly gender-neutral. men and nonbinary people do SW as well

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

let's not act like it's a proportionate amount 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

what’s really dehumanizing here is your suggestion that someone hiring me for my time, company and attention is “buying a person”. I have never been for sale as a person, that’s not how that works—super unrealistically condescending way for you to refer to an adult worker’s job. that’s one of the misconceptions I’m talking about

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

as someone who has also done sex work... that's absolutely what it is and how the clients view it. maybe you're just naive

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

do you think my clients all own me in some way now, just because I profited off of their desire for attention? do you think that just because transactional sexual attention was involved, that somehow means I don’t call the shots in terms of what I am or am not willing to do with another person? “buying someone” is enslavement. no one bought me

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

if ur not even gonna bother to think about what i said then im not gonna respond to this LMAO

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

why would you want to cede any ground to clients whose entitlement extended beyond your job description? cause you really don’t have to treat the dehumanizing attitudes of *some* shitty clients as like, reality-defining. that’s just their delusion and lack of boundaries. I’m sorry if your experience in the industry was so negative that you felt that way, but objectively, doing sex work is not the same as your personhood being up for sale

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I wasn’t ignoring that you have experience in the industry, you replied while I was still writing my second reply, so I just hadn’t seen it yet. you sure aren’t doing much thoughtful engaging with my perspective by simply hurling insults at me, thought

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

i never once insulted you. i said that if you really believe that these clients see their purchase as anything but buying YOU then you're naive. i have no issue with you doing this work. but it's irresponsible to treat it as a normal job. and no, it's not 'some' clients.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

my experience wasn't negative, actually! but i am able to recognize it for what it is from an outsider's perspective

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

“you’re actually slow ash”, “maybe you’re just naive”? be serious. that’s insulting. the claim that All clients believe they’re buying you as a person is demonstrably false, I know that firsthand. you’re projecting your own negative experience across an entire industry and refusing to listen to alternative perspectives from people who ALSO worked in that same industry. and again, just because some of them delusionally believe that shit doesn’t mean you have to treat their delusions as fact

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

also, who tf said anything about “normal”? this is clearly a touchy subject for you but please respond to things I am actually saying rather than just grasping for ideas that make you mad and then deciding I must have voiced them somewhere

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

notice how i said 'if' along with both of those 🤥 and as i already said, i didn't have a negative experience. the commodification of humans is objectifying. end of story. and again, if you think the people who are literally purchasing your time and interactions see you as more than just that. then you ARE naive

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

touchy subject for me but ur the one getting mad 😭 IM telling you that you cannot treat sex work as a normal job. tf r u even trying to prove with this lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

“you’re slow ash if you believe [thing you just very clearly expressed that you believe]” 🤔 that’s not a very conditional or ambiguous “if”, now is it if you’re gonna say hostile shit like that then you should at least have the integrity to acknowledge that you were in fact being unnecessarily rude

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

girl for the second time, who said anything about “normal”? I’m not saying it’s “a normal job”, idk what that’s even supposed to be. my post is pretty clearly just arguing that people who go to strip clubs or hire other adult industry workers aren’t all necessarily doing something worthy of judgment

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

u could change ur mind who knows 🤷‍♀️ i dont think it was unnecessary when ur saying the same thing with bigger words

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

babe IM the one who said something about normal. i said ur TREATING sw as a normal job by talking about clients crossing the boundaries of ur 'job description' 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

commodifying a person would, again, mean that the person themself is for sale. and you just acknowledged that what’s actually for sale is time and interaction. so the person themself is not being commodified… unless you believe that Most forms of labor amount to commodification of human beings? in which case I would be willing to more or less agree

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

again treating comparing to and treating it as a normal job... hm..... anyway! u can keep living in delusional ab how ur clients view u babe i rlly do hope this makes u happy 🫶

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

uhhh not really? what language would you have preferred I used, homie? “the description of your job”, “the limitations of what services you’re selling”? this is some wild nitpicking

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

and nah, at no point have I suggested that you’re intellectually inferior, just that you’re stubbornly overgeneralizing, making claims that don’t reflect reality, and refusing to leave room for the nuances of other people’s experiences. none of those are generalizations about you as a person, you’re the only one whipping out insults

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

yas keep going girl ur rlly beating the patriarchy here

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

merely acknowledging the fact that it *is* A Job, as in Paid Labor, isn’t “treating it as a normal job”. you’re being irrationally dismissive

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

denial is a sad thing 💔 maybe in an ideal world tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

not even remotely attempting to engage with the points I raise lmao, no openness towards perspectives beyond your own, just emotionally-motivated reactions and smug condescending sarcasm. incredible. goodbye!

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