
Everyone commenting here is so mad abt this post like what?? Trump is allowing officers to kidnap and assault people. They are making unlawful arrests, stealing peoples property, all of it. But nobody wants to acknowledge that because he’s “getting rid of criminals” all while hiring people with domestic violence charges. Idiots.
They have no argument. They will do anything to uphold white supremacy (which actively harms them too, and will more very soon if it’s allowed to continue en masse) not even just white people. People seeking proximity protection (not viable) defend it all too and bring up deceased people and make sick anti-Christian jokes. God takes vengeance, we must only have faith and seek the kingdom amen
If you think being forced (yes, functionally forced when you were being excluded from society over it) to take an experimental shot with health risks is even the same manner of issue as...not illegally entering and residing in a foreign country...that's your own lack of brainpower at work. You just want to defend criminal behavior to really stick it the guy in the White House.
You do all realize that you’re only hating on this now is because trump is doing it and that’s the only reason why people are resisting so much I mean Obama deported wayyyyyy more people during his two terms than trump ever has. And the reason why it’s so crazy scary right now is cause the dems and crazy blue haired liberal moms are going out of their way when they should be at work to put themselves in harms way by putting themselves/others in front of cars or burning down their own city💀
i don’t think they really think that way at least from what i’ve seen. a lot of it is how divisive the media is and how it purposely angers people for profit. knowing a few people who are maga or republican i can say with confidence- at least the people i know- don’t think like this and definitely don’t support people in power (like ice) taking advantage of their position
Well the vaccine card was bad I mean bad, US citizens should not have to work around with their papers etc, they Photo ID is enough, internationals where’re told to walk with our documents that prove our legal status, I-20, I-94, if you’re traveling between states, your passport as well. It’s just good practice tbh. Also proof of insurance
Of course they’re all hypocrites seeing as that’s a prerequisite of being a Christian right wing regressive backwards brainwashed hive minded morally minimalistic moron mirroring maga megalomaniac’s mindless mumbling. So what I’m saying is If it weren’t for double standards they’d have no standards at all
We should’ve let them die. They were culling themselves. A significant amount of our problems come from us trying to save these self-destructive, worthless crybullies from themselves. Let them suffer and die of their own accord, pumping themselves full of horse wormer and drinking raw milk while ravaged by plague - and things will get better. I hate that kind of language but it’s where we’re at. They see us an enemy tribe: they believe in the friend/enemy distinction. No sense 😭ing over them
Strawman argument. No one is saying this. Dems increased ICE’s budget for over a decade. The post is calling maga hypocrites for being the “don’t tread on me” party, but as soon as their guy starts going full global fascist, they’re cool with it and anyone who is not is a terrorist. Hypocrisy
Trade my 4 x 4 for a G63, ain't no more free Lil Steve I gave 'em chance and chance and chance again I even done told them please I find it crazy the police'll shoot you and know that you dead But still tell you to freeze Fucked up, I seen what I seen I guess that mean hold him down if he say he can't breathe
i don’t care about “illegal” immigrants being here—if they aren’t citizens they can’t take benefits from the state. and clearly, they see our country as better than where they’re fleeing from, we should be honored people would leave the place their from for a foreign land with promises of a better future
I mean “getting rid of criminals” is one thing but they are deporting people awaiting hearings for asylum. AKA they are deporting people who came here and followed the actual, legal process. Not to mention deporting American citizens nor ignoring due process. There’s nothing else to defend anymore - we can see exactly what their intentions really are.
Alright I’ll do it for you, and I’m open minded so I’m willing to have a conversation about this. Vaccines were never a federal mandate for public health, only employment. Not allowing people to access public spaces due to not having a vaccine is against the law under accommodation discrimination. You can be banned for many other reasons, such as disorderly conduct or terroristic threats, but not for “public safety” when it’s not a government requirement to get a vaccine. 1/2
However, it’s entirely against our federal immigration laws to illegally enter the country without proper authorization or documentation. To seek asylum is also a process, so you cannot just enter and say you’re seeking asylum. Therefore, it is entirely against the law to be in our co it net without any legal right to be in our country. It’s two entirely different issues. One is impending on citizens, one is protecting citizens
If you mean the parties, I agree. Partisan has killed any chance of middle ground in our country. Both have decent policies, but it’s now like you’re voting for mid to extreme left or right. Middle ground candidates don’t get votes because they don’t get any constituents to agree with each other.
I am a “MAGAt”. I believe in trumps vision. In an indirect way, Trump is attempting to make wages competitive again by removing illegal immigrants. They make up a disproportionate amount of the physical labor market, not because they’re THAT good (though they’re doing a great job), but because they’re willing to get paid next to nothing. It’s going to force companies to pay a workers worth again. There’s more that I believe in from him, 1/2
okay well in the context of what i was talking ab, i was speaking on maga republicans bc ive seen those who d ride trump do most of the name calling and be so disrespectful bc they’re so far up trump’s a** that they do everything they can to undermine anyone who thinks the opposite of them. people who are republicans and not maga don’t seem to have the same reactions (not everyone but most) and this is all just based on my personal experience of what i’ve seen!
and as a 21 year old going into the tech market, we’ve been damn near thrown out of the labor pool because of the insane amount of outsourcing that is occurring. It’s a huge issue in major markets. Automation and outsourcing to cheaper avenues has become the norm and it’s not right for our citizens at all.
It’s not against the law to deny someone service at a private establishment because they are not vaxed. It’s a safety thing. It’s not like discriminating because of race or gender. On the immigration front: Ice is arresting people who are going to fucking court hearings for their asylum claims. They’re attacking the people who did it the legal way!!! 1/2
okay well i’m not gonna keep repeating myself bc you’re obviously not listening to me LOL, just read my original comment over again and that will tell you everything i wanted to say here today. simply about the fact that some people are childish and rude and it’s just weird that they can’t have a convo or read something that’s not what they believe and need to name call, that literally all i was saying!
2/2 if you’re for limiting H1B visas, or punishing us companies for outsourcing, I’m with you. But we NEED immigrant labor for construction and farming and many other sections of the economy. There are almost no Americans who would do those jobs, even with a pay increase. And if these companies magically started paying 30/h to pick lettuce, no one would be able to afford to eat. We need a reformed immigration system that allows enough legal pathways for workers the USA needs
Im trying to tell you that none of that shit matters and nothing will change as long as you continue to support a bipartisan political system. Youre basically like “guys maga should all just be nicer when we argue 🥺” and Im saying both sides are ruining the country and it all needs to be revamped
I don’t know anything about Palantir, so my opinion is 90% ignorant, 10% based on other tech polices that aren’t in place but I wish they were. I think in concept it’s a good idea, but in practice it’s gonna be a security nightmare. We should have a database with our citizens basic info (name, age, dob) to not “track” our citizens, but ensure they’re legal along with criminal record keeping. Idk what their plan is, so I’ll come back to it when ik what’s being done.
In a sense, illegal immigrant labor is damn near slavery in some places. They’re being paid minimum wage for insane amounts of labor. I understand what you mean by cheap labor is almost necessary, but these people are insanely overworked and underpaid. However, farmers are starting to automate these jobs as well, so it’s bound to be a moot point in approx 4 years. I agree the system needs a huge rework. Immigration should be easier, however you can’t break the law just because it benefits you.
My entire point went over your head. I have a lot of empathy for people in bad situations, especially economically. Idc what you do in the bedroom. I don’t see how that’s an issue. Im considered left leaning in Catholicism. I don’t really care and you can do as you please. You can’t make someone care though, that’s fascist
I think it’s a little oversimplified to say they’re only coming here to help themselves. Of course they’re coming here for either asylum or a better economic life, but they wouldn’t be doing so if our economy didn’t need it. I’m not saying it’s right to break the law, but breaking that law literally feeds America and builds our homes, and our politicians on the left and right won’t fix the system.
I would agree and disagree about them coming because our economy needs. Yes they are given jobs at low wages quite fast, showing demand, but in recent years Gen Z has finally showed their willingness to do blue collar work in some states. Highly pretentious states do not have people wanting to do this because of entitlement, but middle class kids are seeing that there’s a lot of money to be made now in blue collar work. So I’d agree and disagree. I stand in the middle ab our economy needing it
Sure, but US citizens who aren’t required to carry… probably don’t have all the required documents on them when they get put in handcuffs and thrown in the back of a van. This just makes it harder to prove your citizenship because you’re not allowed to fetch it. I just do not understand why they had to hire more ICE agents to detain everyone present at the raid, instead of hiring a couple paper pushers to keep track of the US citizens that are present at the location of a raid.
Besides… if that’s all they’re detaining people for, why the fuck do they need guns? Because every illegal immigrant working a job is a cartel boss? It doesn’t make any fucking sense and the authoritarian nature of the department, with very very little restriction on who can work for them… is a recipe for more dead US citizens
Jonathon Aguilar Garcia, was 17 working at Target, when him, and another coworker (Christian Miranda Romano) were arrested. There were 9 ice agents for 2 people. Then they were “released” in a Walmart parking lot, where he was crying and bleeding. If you don’t know, Target makes you bring a bunch of stuff in order to work there, and if you don’t bring it, they don’t allow you to work. I’ve worked there, and I’ve seen people leave orientation because they didn’t bring their stuff.
Well yeah that’s the entire issue right now, if citizens don’t have to carry papers, how do you prove they’re a citizen, because ICE legally cannot detain citizens AT ALL. And I agree, there is no reason an ICE agent needs a weapon. They’re fulfilling judicial warrants on civil offenses. There is ZERO need for service weapons to be issued or carried
But the whole argument was that they were doing this to find criminals and bust the cartel no? Why target people who actually work and contribute to society? Or AMERICAN CITIZENS. You’re just as hateful as the bastards kidnappers out there you probably just failed the training part you dumbfuck
Idiots in 2026: I believe anything I see on Fox News or any other unreliable sources as long as it aligns with my views (do not defend fox news, they classified themselves as an entertainment network and verbatim said “only an idiot would believe the stuff we say on air!” To defend themselves for misinformation in court. Don’t believe me? Look it up)
Facts don’t care about your feelings btw. It’s all in that study I posted. Your side died en masse because it’s addicted to shitting its pants and blaming it on the wind. Stop tilting at windmills and clubbing refugees over the head. You are being robbed blind but are too stupid, ego-driven, petulant, and fragile to ever admit you’ve fallen for a con, even when a p3dophil3 sits in the Oval Office and 🍇s the country you claim to love.
You’re right this isn’t new! ICE has been infringing upon citizen’s constitutional rights since 2003! Glad we’re on the same page. And friendly reminder: they cannot arrest United States citizens. At all. They cannot use reasonable suspicion of immigration violation on American citizens. Detaining an American citizen in anyway is illegal for ice agents to do. Yet they do all the time with no repercussions. And people like you cheerfully let it. Because you’re fucking stupid
It’s not rare. At all. And they don’t release them as soon as it is confirmed. They have been known to hold known citizens illegally until the statute of limitations is up so they can’t even get justice for false imprisonment. This is true. Not a what if. this has happened. MULTIPLE TIMES ALSO- if illegal immigrants don’t have constitutional rights, none of us have constitutional rights. Take your pick. All or nothing. Literally
Are you blind or just ignorant? Look around. They have been sexually assaulting women, Threatening people at protests, ripping people out of their cars. But because they’re immigrants you, for some dumb reason, think they deserve to be treated in such a way. It’s absolutely disgusting.
I’m sure everything under the sun has happened but that’s because nothing system in human history has been perfect. If these things are happening they are happening in extremely small numbers, like less than 1% of the time. That doesn’t mean that we should stop arresting and deporting illegals
That’s just blatantly false. The statute of limitations for false imprisonment is years and Trump has only been in office for less than 1 year. Also the statute of limitations starts after u are released not when u were arrested so its literally not possible to hold someone until the statute of limitations has expired lmfao
I’m not a liberal. I don’t hate this country. Hell I’m probably more conservative than you, I’m a deep libertarian. And I love my country. I love my country so much I’m willing to call out injustices that make it horrible to be a part of. I love it so much I want to see consequences for when it does wrong so it can be better. I love my country so much that I will do whatever it takes to make everyone prideful to call themselves an American.
I really don’t think that’s true- the media makes money by dividing people and stirring up hate and anger. having talked with people in maga and having respectful debates they really aren’t how they sound in the media. If you’re on the right you hear liberals are like nazis too- it’s a way for the media to fill their pockets. -from a democrat
Let’s not forget either that up to 73% of people in ICE detention right now have no criminal convictions at all. Almost half of those people don’t even have any pending charges. Finally, between 40-45% of arrests are made SOLELY because of unlawful presence or overstayed visas, not because they are criminals and rapists like Trump, the DHS, and ICE want people to believe
While I didn’t like Kirk, and he said many many hateful things, I think we should stop making fun of him so much. I mean a little is ok. And if people are praising him, we should point out he wasn’t a good guy. But celebrating death is the wrong thing to do. I know the other side does it to left wing figures who have died, but doesn’t make it right for us to do it. Just my 2 cents
Can’t wait until the day this madness flips and the next Administration starts chasing down people who look like ICE Criminals, CBP Terrorists, Imprisoning and deporting individuals that look like their family were part of Homeland Security that murdered and maimed U.S. citizenry to CECOT, Sudan, and Kenya!
and the “Americans” are not still illegally occupying the country? They only did it through murder, suppression /oppression of others, and bringing diseases that harmed natives. They were here first but just because the “new Americans” came and started making rules doesn’t mean it was ok.
The natives were at war with themselves long before we ever came. And yea diseases are bad, but at one point or another a country was going to wander to North America and bring diseases that weren’t native. It lowkey happened to be Englishman and Spaniards and other conquistadors.
Bruh it doesn’t matter, your logic is still applicable to you. I mean you have no more right and credibility to label and claim someone is a nazi when a you’re just another college kid and b you would rather illegals who broke into the country and break laws—the first one being coming here— stay here
Might be just another college kid but I definitely have a higher education than you. Tell me history buff- who was the first ones here? Spaniards/europeans? Like from Spain/Europe? So they weren’t from Europe they were from the americas? I feel like there is a group of people that were native to the americas when Europeans came in. Hmmmm
You’re calling people who want illegals who didn’t rightfully come here like they should have—even the people “seeking asylum” didn’t do it the right way—in seeking asylum there is still paperwork and processes involved. Like you’re calling people who are simply following the law—because since the 40’s immigrants who are not citizens must have their id and visas on them like this isn’t new and yall are acting like it is
You asked for part b, and for part a yea there were natives here beforehand but a lot of points about murder and destruction aren’t really applicable besides the assimilation tactics in later history and the bringing over of diseases because reality is that natives were committing self destruction with major wars between clans and general populations etc, I mean they were so against other clans and whatnot that some clans would use the Englishman’s help just to get rid of other in early history
No he didn’t. There are like a million videos and none of them show him getting hit. He leaned over the car to get the first shot through the front windshield, and did the next two shots through the side window 😂. DHS told us he had internal bleeding but didn’t release any info to prove that. Internal bleeding that’s serious requires 24 hour minimum hospital stay and he allegedly went for 3 hours.
This post really shows how many of the people we know around us are secretly ok with Nazis and that’s crazy. I can’t believe as a “woke” person I feel more American and patriotic than the people who claim to be so in love with the U.S. liking Nazis= very not American Questioning a corrupt government that has Nazis= Very American
Isn’t neo-Nazi-ism the same as Nazi-ism, just in “modern” terminology? The denial of the holocaust, worshipping of adolf hitler, promotion of fascism, antisemitism, and belief in white supremacy? How is that at all possible when MAAG is supported by multiple races, cultures, and identities? I’d encourage you to understand the definitions of the terms you use before you go about calling people these things. You sound uneducated
Neo-nazism is essentially a similar ideology but not the actual NSDAP. Having some tokens from multiple other identities doesn’t exempt maga from being fascist. That’s like saying “I can’t be racist bc I have a black friend.” I’ve studied this topic for a couple decades. I hate to “no u” but honestly you’re the one coming across as uneducated on the topic.
So what do you have to say about him and his party using Nazi slogans? Also what about the Epstein files that are legally required to be put out, I’m sure since you have strong feelings about people being here legally you also want those put out? Also, if you had any ounce of emotional intelligence you’d understand that this issue isn’t really just about immigrants. But I’m sure you’ll just give some bs response that doesn’t actually prove your point.
So then how the fuck is it fair when American buy houses in foreign countries to vacation in for long periods of time or at all really? By you saying that would you be okay with only staying in the United States until you go through years and thousands of dollars to be able to step in their soil?
Then why does the right to due process exist no matter your status? Once you’re on American soil you gain that right. So you yourself are not in agreement with the constitution. Were your ancestors originally born here? If you’re not native neither you or your ancestors ever had the right to be here
First off the deportations are based on final orders from immigration judges, they all get due process. Secondly where your ancestors were from is completely meaningless if they came here legally. Thirdly the point u made about native Americans is stupid. Native Americans were not US citizens, they were actually adversaries of the US
Judges gave the okay to harass and suspect people for being BROWN or having an ACCENT. That is White supremacist legislation. We do not agree. Judges have failed. Due process is being skirted. Warrants are no longe required to enter homes. Due process actually used to mean something a bit more proper than the Trump administration has purposely watered it down to mean. Ignoring that change is willful ignorance
What do illegal immigrants do to you that makes you everyday life harder? To the point where you have to worry about what they’re doing? Because I’ve been alive 21 years and never have I ever thought about them and immediately saw them as a threat. You’re just a hateful, miserable boot licker
First off I am Hispanic myself so I don’t think I can be racist against myself. Secondly I don’t hold distain for any group of ppl, certainly not Hispanic ppl, but we can be honest that someone who doesn’t speak English well and hangs out in places with a large amount of illegal immigrants than he is exponentially more likely to be illegal than someone who doesn’t fit that description
So what about all the Native people who have been taken? And the houses being broken into to take people without them asking for identification and only releasing these people after they treat them like shit when they are in fact legal citizens??? Make it make sense, OH WAIT, you can’t.
Things like that have happened maybe a handful of times over the course of the tens of thousands of arrests that have taken place and they have all been rectified. Yes it isn’t perfect, mistakes happen, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t do it. Innocent ppl are arrested for other crimes too, that doesn’t mean we should stop arresting ppl all together
white supremacy caused internalized in marginalized people, and now we have latinos kicking out other latinos. that doesn’t change the fact that the majority of ICE is made up of white people and doesn’t excuse the racial profiling ICE and Trump’s administration are doing. what’s your point exactly?