There's some people where I'm like you prob arent a 25yo virgin because you're cool, well liked, decent looking etc but if you are, it wouldn't be in an incel way because ik people would fuck you but in your mind you'd think it's in an incel way
Idk if that makes sense but basically some people you can just read and you know their perception of themself is very misaligned with the perception other people have of them and it becomes a self sabotage thing