
People are being murdered in cold blood all over the world for a thousand different reasons every day. Where is all this outrage for Myanmar, or Ethiopia, Sudan, or China? You don’t see it. You only see THIS because Iran invested heavily in developing pro-Palestinian propaganda for the American public. I’m not saying we shouldn’t talk about it. We certainly should. I’m saying “talking about it” the way OP did with this post, is useless.
Here we go with the straw man arguments instead of addressing the direct point at hand… did YOU bring up those countries? Is that what this post is about? Murder is wrong, PERIOD. Second, yall need to make up your mind… One minute yall are saying Iran is deathly poor, they’re infiltrating America, they NEED Israel…. Then the next minute you’re saying they’re spending billions on propaganda…. As if Israel doesn’t have ADVERTISEMENTS on EVERY social media… you’re ignoring the ACTUAL propaganda.
…You don’t seem to understand what straw man is. For that to be the case you’d need an actual relevant argument in the first place. My initial statement was addressing the political efficacy of OPs post, and your first response is an emotional jab about shelter and changing locks. Yes, obviously the death of innocent Palestinians is wrong. (🤯) Can you recognize the subject here is about HOW we discuss this conflict, and not about how sad it is that people die? We’re beyond the third grade.
“Murder is wrong, period” - Again, not exactly the brilliantly empathetic take you think it is. Can you recognize that death is an inadvertent consequence of conflict, and can be necessary for security? Idk how you think the internet works, but I don’t speak for every person that’s ever disagreed with you lol. Fact: Iran spends significantly on pro-Palestinian propaganda because it is directly in their interest. Yes, Israel does too. That’s how you end up with equally shallow zionists.
Yea no, I’ll continue to address the main point of OP’s post. Which is about Palestine. I personally and genuinely don’t care about your feelings. Nobody took a personal jab when bringing up “changing locks”… that’s literally what’s happening. But here you are, an American white man finding any way possible to make yourself the victim.
Genuinely what are you talking about? Your statement was an emotional appeal about violence, a pathos argument. Did you misread emotional as personal? Lol I’m not offended by your position, or making myself a victim in any way. Like what? The word of what? Lmao. That’s the whole point. You just like hearing “Israel bad”. That’s vague and meaningless. “End violence” is your take I’ll force you to make an actual argument: What do you think the U.S. should actually do to improve this situation?
…What job? What does military enrollment have to do with our convo? It seems you legitimately cannot comprehend the difference between shouting buzzwords and discussing an issue in an actionable and solution-oriented way. You’re simply not grasping it. What is your actual position? WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO?
I’ll reframe my point for you one last time. “Fuck Israel” is not a valid geopolitical position. It doesn’t suggest any solution through policy/diplomacy. It’s meaningless outside of getting approval from the like-minded. We have responsibilities as citizens of a democratic country to inspire our own policy. Im not preventing you from saying anything, Im trying to help you get what you want, which you’ve repeatedly refused to define. It’s because of people like you that these tragedies persist.
You’re expecting accurate geopolitical positions on an anonymous social media forum. If u want serious ‘appropriate’ conversations, take ur ass to a real debate, Oswald… Should I remind you that you’re looking at a casual conversation thread between young adults on social media, and trying to ‘philosophy’ them. U think you’re smart, when it’s really giving neurodivergent/autistic… Or ur a 40+yr old student amongst us…. ANYWAYS, the fact ur sitting here, TRYING to be pedantic, is pathetic.
“Guys! Don’t talk about Israel or Palestine unless you know the geopolitical mappings and conflicts, and what the commander in chief are tonight. Unless you’re donating money, or coming up with a plan at the front line, we shouldn’t be talking about it…” — that’s literally what you sound like 😹
Okay, so you acknowledge that it’s dumb and pointless but validate that because it’s yik yak. I mean fair enough. I still have a right to give my opinion, so, yeah. You keep complaining about me being too smart or using words that are too big, idek how to respond to that. Does it make me less right if I was autistic? Lmao what are you on? You are also sitting here arguing with me. It doesn’t seem you can contribute constructively to a conversation. Goodbye and good luck
That’s literally not what I said at all, you dumb fuck… WHAT IM SAYING IS: there are ALWAYS different types of conversations. You picked THIS conversation out of all of them to pick on. YES, the topic is serious, but this isn’t a FORMAL debate. This thread is literally people having conversations about it… Instead of interacting with THOSE formal convos, you took your sorry ass here… Why the FUCK do I have to explain this to you? Are you slow?