Anonymous #4 18h

and that doesn’t make you a bad person! it just means you have subpar intelligence :)

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Anonymous #4 18h

Not being woke is not the same as being anti woke. Political views are an extension of lived experience. I grew up in Africa, I don’t see the need for affirmative action, it doesn’t make sense to me. I can and have come up with a variety of well reasoned arguments as to why affirmative action isn’t a good idea. But those who disagree disagree a lot more loudly and disrespectfully than I had. Have ur opinion, but be a decent person about it.

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Anonymous OP 18h

actually, pretty much any argument against affirmative action in the united states can pretty quickly be refuted and dismissed with data and material reality. just because something “doesn’t make sense” to you doesn’t mean it’s incorrect. which was exactly my original point. don’t assume that everyone knows as little as you do.

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Anonymous OP 18h

“political views are an extension of lived experience”. yeah, if you’re too stupid to recognize that your “lived experience “means next to nothing when it comes to actual policy or social reality. thinking people rely on data and factual information, not their lived experience.

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Anonymous #4 17h

Wokeness does not account for the lived experiences of others either buddy.

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Anonymous #4 17h

That is incorrect. Tell me. Why admit based on race instead of income or location? You want to give blacks and Latinos a leg up, right? But what about the blacks and Latinos who are rich? They will always be more attractive than those who aren’t, meaning they will rack up a majority of the college acceptances. This doesn’t even help. If you think about it, black people with fewer resources clump together in location. And fewer resources is tied to lower income.

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Anonymous #4 17h

And see how you just jumped to insulting me before even considering what I have to say.

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Anonymous OP 17h

ahhh the classic “wealthy minority” argument against affirmative action. basically, the statistical prevalence of wealthy minorities applying to selective colleges is so low as to be basically irrelevant to the argument. also, the entire intent of affirmative action is to counter implicit racial bias in the admissions process, which absolutely still exists. your solution is literally throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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Anonymous #4 17h

and just to be clear: this is not my original opinion that I came up with. literally hundreds of scholars and researchers have responded DIRECTLY to what you said. I’d recommend actually reading about affirmative action, and how it actually played out in the admissions landscape.

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Anonymous #4 17h

honestly I was wondering whether you were going to go with “reverse racism” or “wealthy minorities” as your argument against affirmative action, because those are the two most common arguments.

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Anonymous #4 17h

What kind of an expression is that? Also, it’s not irrelevant. Go to any well regarded school and the vast majority of minority students there are quite wealthy. I’m not saying that affirmative action didn’t help minorities in general, but I’m saying that chosing to admit by race is not logical because comparing the entire spectrum of black people is ridiculous The people in their immediate vicinity and the people that make as much money as them are those who you compare to.

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Anonymous #4 17h

Implicit racial bias can be almost entirely alleviated by simply anonymising applications. But what research have you read I would like to read the papers.

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