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this is actually an uneducated take. i recommend you pick up a few linguistics courses!
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Anonymous 23h

Yoo

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Anonymous 1d

It’s a realistic take….

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

It’s like moving somewhere and not even bothering to learn the language correctly. How do you think people in say France would feel if you speak French to them and intentionally didn’t pronounce some words correctly and decided to call it a dialect of their language

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

But it is correct

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

It’s not though…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

There's a difference between native speakers speaking their language in a non-standard but patterned way tied to real historical/geographical things, and between foreigners simply mispronouncing it

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

AAVE was literally started by “foreigners” mispronouncing the English language

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

That's just not correct...it was started by black American slaves within an English speaking society

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Slaves were not native English speakers when they came here. AAVE developed from lack of education and not properly learning English. I’m not saying it was their fault but we shouldn’t pretend it’s proper English when it’s not

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

But their descendants were

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Correct, their descendants were taught to mispronounce certain words and phrases

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

So do you believe that no dialects are real because they’re “mispronouncing” words?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

It's only "mispronounced" relative to standard modern-day American English, which there's a good chance you don't speak either if you live in certain parts of the country

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

No I just think AAVE itself just sounds like poor education. Dialects are taught and used in schools but AAVE is not part of the education curriculum nor used by teachers in any school systems in the US

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Okay so you specifically just don’t believe AAVE should exist because you don’t like it lol. Cajun/Creole aren’t taught in schools but they’re still languages present in the US. Missouri French exists and isn’t taught in schools and is nowhere near proper. Barcelona has “Catalan” because their Spanish is so weird compared to the main language. You’re just picking AAVE because you have weird biases

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Girl, Cajun is used in schools in rural Louisiana where they are spoken

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

And Creole is a real language spoken in Haiti

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

There’s maybe 5 or less schools tops in LA that teach Cajun unless they’re affiliated with the nonprofit initiative to revive it. There were literal bans on it being spoken before recently. Please learn about the history of language and dialect 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Yeah not in the US though. It’s not the same language as the one being spoken on the mainland, like how you see differences in Portuguese from Portugal and Brazil

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