Anonymous #2 22h

I mean Nazi Germany’s Heidegger had some really groundbreaking philosophy and cool aesthetics with their symbols and fashion; but the culture, values, and state itself was despicable. Cicero had great oration, but he was also a complete hypocrite against what he spoke while being a classist asshat that supported torturing slaves

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Anonymous OP 22h

100% completely agree. Main thing i’m getting at is that MOST ancient societies were completely deplorable, and i think it’s important that we’re able to understand each society in the context it’s in. like slavery, crucifixion, imperialism, the roman circus, religious persecution, etc are all bad AND arches and aqueducts and roman engineering in general is monumental.

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Anonymous #2 22h

I totally get appreciating the good little artistic tidbits, the Aeneid and stoicism are great, but a lot of ppl seem to have this weird glorification of Rome from a moral viewpoint as something to replicate, which is just entirely insane and psychopathic imo. It was a rotten society of mass murdering crazy people, and should not be held as any standard of governance or direction for those actually interested in living and perpetuating morally healthy lives

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Anonymous OP 22h

absolutely. There’s a lot of overlap between these people and guys who call themselves history buffs but only actually care about military history from a particularly turbulent decade of the 20th century lol

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Anonymous #2 22h

I honestly see people that “love the Roman Empire” in that obsessive way beyond just aesthetics and basic historical appreciation as either: 1. Ignorant 2. Psychopathic 3. Insane the same way people who love serial killers are insane

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Anonymous OP 22h

i think ignorant is the most common one

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Anonymous OP 22h

All of this being said, i love learning about it (same as any society) but dont love the society itself. So kind of like having a favorite character in game of thrones

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