
I mean, I think you can still be a feminist while acknowledging biological differences and the fact that men biologically tend to have a physical advantage. It is men’s responsibility to be gentler than women because their strength can be very intimidating and scary to women. I think that acknowledging that and expecting a level of respect and gentleness from men is more feminist than just ignoring the fact that men have a huge capacity for destruction or protection from their physical prowess
When you have a greater capacity to cause harm, it’s your duty to be gentler and kinder to those who have a lesser one, especially if they’re especially vulnerable to the harm you can commit. That’s why men should be more considerate and gentle to women. We’re striving for a world where men and women are equal in all ways, but we aren’t there yet, which means yes men should continue to be considerate towards women.
Y’all women sound soft ass hell what if that man married why tf would he treat u nice your not his wife or anything to him i think this world to darn soft and most u bad built lazy women who expect a man to just worship y’all should be treated like common folks y’all ain’t nothing special 😂 Curious on if yall black or white because ik ain’t no black momma raising a woman to expect a man to be nice because They are a woman
Feminism is about the freedom to choose your lifestyle and how you respond to challenges. This post states a desire to reinstate a gender restricted social norm, that’s why it’s anti-feminist. Encouraging that people be nicer and gentler to everyone would be a much more effective alternative.
Yeah this is anti feminist. You aren’t deserving or special specific treatment for being a woman and shouldn’t be viewed as more fragile because you’re a woman. People should all just be nicer and gentle to everyone and not because of what organs they have or hormones or chromosomes or gender identity, but because we are all human deserving of common decency.
Big on the fellow women thing but really it just be women lying to eachother, any kind of support is just random words thrown at eachother that almost don’t matter. Imagine having 100 different women tell you you’re pretty then a random kid says you look ugly and your day is ruined 😂. I think the need for male validation is stronger than most women would say so yeah, OP does have a point in that regard.
I agree as someone who is like a liberal feminist😭 especially when it comes to adult men and young girls like I have watched way too many men let a door slam in my face like full grown men who should know better and personally idc who a person is or their gender I would hold the door for them no problem. And I don’t think it’s antifeminist It’s just how society works and always has. Men just aren’t taught simple manners towards women anymore and it’s really sad. In general tho everyone needs
i understand what you are getting at but i feel like respect might be the wrong word since respect should be given regardless of gender. but maybe id say men should be treated with dignity as women should be treated with gentleness. bc i think they are both something that shouldn’t be taken away regardless of the humans behavior. if a woman is a bitch, that doesn’t mean you can be rough with her. and if a guy is a jerk, that doesn’t mean he deserves to treated without humanity.
Sounds like you don’t want anyone to have it better because you’re bitter you had it bad. The attitude “I didn’t get this so why should you” is selfish and does nothing but hold everyone back from a better future. Maybe go to therapy and work out why you think others should be miserable just because you were 💖
“Done everything myself” You lived on a farm w no electricity, never bought food, never used filtered water or tap water? Everything you have in life is bc of other human beings, you’ve never done anything truly alone and if you had to you would likely die. The whole point of us living in societies is to support each other.
and ofc this is not to say that women should treated without dignity and men without gentleness. but if you’re looking for something to parallel my original statement, i would say maybe dignity would be a good word. bc personally i see men as being the side of society that are strong and leaders. i think those things require a dignified person
And how did you escape that situation? By building a house and growing your food? No? Again, you had the support of a society of people. You weren’t alone in the Amazon trying to make it. Anyone who struggles like you claimed to should want nothing more than for no one else to ever have to experience anything similar, anyway. Maybe grow from your experiences instead of becoming bitter.
after reading these replies it seems like you have some built up trauma and anger and now it’s directed at women asking for gentle behavior. this is especially clear with how hostile you’re being and immediately trying to guilt trip people into feeling bad for you because of your past as soon as they disagree with you, to the point where ur responses aren’t even talking abt the main point anymore 😭ur trying to seek sympathy for ur past but can’t give sympathy to women who want to feel safe😭
I think you can use context to figure out what “Youre not special” means 🤣. Cmon we not in elementary anymore, post like these are why some women gotta be humbled cause you let your egos get to big because a couple people said you looked pretty and now you want everyone to say it. ew
i agree that people should be treated with kindness and respect regardless of demographic. unfortunately, may men are rough with everyone. i think it is especially important that they are not rough with women in particular, as they are not typically able to physically protect themselves as well. that is what this post is manly about
I’m a poc too (Black). Maybe my experience is different because I’m a woman, but they’re usually nice to me. I don’t scream at the racist ones I encounter, but I do respond so they think twice before doing it again. And if some kids called you a slur, would you stop being gentle with all of them too? Just wondering.
Just saying “Women need to be nicer to me because I am a girl” sounds like “I want princess treatment just because I exist” and legitimately speaking, who wouldn’t want that? The problem isnt in wanting it, the problem is sounding entitled af, that’s where guys don’t want to do basic things like being nice because people make it out to sound like their entitled to what you say and do. So a post like “Men should be nice to me because I’m a girl” is never seen how it should be.
Needs to be nicer to each other for real I think men just don’t care how they act towards women if they’re not interested them in a romantic way which is the main difference between men and women. Men are only interested in one thing unfortunately. Don’t get my wrong I know women who’s brains work that way as well tho so once again everyone needs to just be nicer to each other the world would be a much happier place
Op specifically made a post talking about how she should be treated “specifically”highly above others because she is a woman. Then #26 said “you aren’t special” and you said that she isn’t asking for special treatment, when the whole point of the post is literally asking for special treatment for JUST women. And if they aren’t asking you to call them pretty then what are they asking for huh? Tell us what this treatment entails.
I don’t think some of them understand the fact that everyone lives their own lives, and for some to not be the center of someone elses attention or a gesture of courtesy annoys them. When I hold a door open I just hold it open, I don’t expect anything in return and I just do it because I felt like it. The problem is when people demand it and get upset when someone doesn’t say thank you or the expect it like gtfo here.
I once went with my brother to a Circle K at like 2am and when i approached the door a woman walking up to it from inside literally stopped right infront and waited for me to open it for her. I literally just walked straight through her and my brother opened it up for her to walk through, had she not literally stopped infront the door I would have had no problem letting her walk through but that entitlement of expectations from literal strangers is not something i put up with.
Believe it or not some women want their men to go out of their way to be nice to other women or perform acts of service to other women. Something i recently found out with a yt girl that I would never hear from a chocolate baddie. They see it as good that if he treats other women also good then other women in return will see that he is likely good to her, so maybe it’s a performative thing? The problem with this is that if you actually did it, your gf would get pissed off or jealous so idk.
Nobody gvies a shi whether its female or male bruh, whoever made up the word probably said it and it was just a banger then a woman came by and had to demoralize it, it doesn’t make it any better than what’s following the sentence either because its garunteed to be worse than just that singular word
I mean, I’m moreso speaking of pure physical capacity. I have no real expectation of gender roles or anything like that for either sex/gender, just that if you’re a bigger, stronger person you need to be gentler and more patient because you have a large capacity for destruction. I’m of the opinion that women and men have no inherent responsibilities based on their gender, but moreso based on their sex and physical capacity
I’m sceptical for no reason. Read their first comment. Does the fact that they referred to themself as the n-word not strike you as strange? Also, I am someone who has been called whitewashed for my personality. I am no stranger to that kind of treatment, but in this case, I simply don’t believe them.
Just because someone has a few guy friends or even a boyfriend does not mean they cannot be scared of men tf you talking about? I have a bf and am scared to be around most men because of trauma and sometimes I don’t even like my bf touching me because of it but i still want him in my life but i avoid interactions with other men whenever i can because i have panic attacks. You obviously know nothing about trauma and it’s easy to tell youre a man.
You’re a loser if you bro g politics into everything. Not everybody cares who you voted for and not everyone even votes so what’s the point of dismissing a significant percentage of the population for something liberals specifically support: individual autonomy. You only stunt your own personal and mental growth when you can’t reasonably hear out another side of an issue with throwing a tantrum and it looks bad on you while making the other person or side seem smarter.
no you have to fall in line w everything i said, if u find that shit hilarious AND you voted for trump, you’re not my kinda person. i find that extremely offensive and don’t think i owe u kindness. poking fun at minorities AND voting for a president who spreads hate speech opened the door for so many unkind and ignorant acts . i know trump voters who don’t care for that shit and/or regret voting for him because of the violence he’s caused.
omfg what is ur problem. if you think it's funny to make fun minorities, why shouldn't i give u the same treatment? i'm not gonna be nice to you if you're not nice to everyone. and ESPECIALLY if you do those things and voted for trump. i am friends w trump supporters and hear them out all the time and meet them w kindness unless/until i find out they are not a nice person to everyone. do you get it now or do i need to rephrase it for the third time? my own brother is a trump supporter that’s-
palatine could defend itself against israel and israel alone. HOWEVER israel isn’t defending itself, WE are. that’s what the argument is here, if we sent the amount of aid and money we send to israel to palestine youd say the same thing abt israel. that’s the point. the two countries could defend themselves alone im sure
While it feels nice to be treated with extra kindness, feeling nice doesn’t mean it’s not coming from problematic gender roles or sexism. Just because under this specific circumstance it happens to benefit you to be seen as weak and vulnerable, doesn’t mean it’s actually any better to be reinforcing things rooted in sexism.
Well that would make sense if the person viewed men as being in a leading position. You can want to be treated with more gentleness but that doesn’t mean you have to see the other person as in a leading position. I will never see a man as a leading position cuz most of them can’t even pick up after themselves so how tf do they expect to be seen as a leader if they can’t even do basic tasks
It’s not what he’s calling himself, it’s how he’s using it. IMO, he’s either a young black/hispanic man that had no father figure in his life or a middle age racist white man. As a black woman, he doesn’t speak for real men. My father and brother wouldn’t dare put their hands on a woman or raise their voice in anger. He needs help dealing with all of that anger he’s harboring.
No, not really. First of all, I’m black and I grew up in a poor urban community. So, I’m speaking from experience and knowledge. Most of the angry black boys I grew up around had no father figure. No uncle, older brother or anything. They had no guidance, they would say and do things like the commenter here. So yeah, I’ll do me ig.
What you’re describing is 100% sexism. Everyone should be treated with dignity and gentleness regardless of who they are. The way you treat others is how you should be treated, so someone being violent will be met with violence and someone being kind should be met with kindness. Not based on someone being a man or a woman.
I wouldn’t be mad actually. Especially if that man is speaking from a place of knowledge like I am. I come from a big family. I’m around a good amount of males, young and old. I went to public school, surrounded by black people. Had male friends, relationships etc. So yeah, I’m being fr rn.
You just stereotyped by saying “Thats not what my family does or says” and used your poor urban experience as a full on confirmation that he is not black which sounds dumb. The arrogance that a black person wouldn’t speak the same as you is utterly dumb. Everybody speaks different based on what kind of culture they grew up in. But getting weird on the internet over “You don’t sound black is dumb”. And i only hear black women say this so idk whats up w yall.
The person I originally responded to said that the commenter wasn’t black because he used “nigga” to describe himself. I said that what made it odd wasn’t that he used it, it was how he used it. I basically said that he acts that way because of his environment not his race. By choosing to “debate” with me, you agree that what he said wasn’t a reflection of his poor environment but a reflection of all black men. Which is what I oppose.