Anonymous #2 1d

It literally is though 😭 not always on an individual level, in some cases it's a systemic fault of the patriarchy or the collective men The general loneliness epidemic affecting everyone isn't at all self-created. It's been created by HELLA overlapping forces. The specific male loneliness thing tho? Yeah that's born from red-pill culture, incel culture, bros giving bros REALLY bad advice, guys not being intimate with their friends, guys not garnering any EQ, etc etc etc

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Anonymous #3 1d

That poll that dropped showing the differences in values/wants/desires between males and females of Gen Z kinda says it all. Like okay, y'all can have radically different views/wants/etc from women, just don't complain when the women don't fuck with y'all Gen Z men are more weird about gender roles and shit than boomer men. Women don't like that

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Anonymous #4 1d

Also people in general tend to make friends with people who are of similar attractiveness to them. Men however do this more and are more likely to develop friend groups based on how similar they look to their peers. This means attractive men are less likely to be friends with unattractive men. Further pushing away ugly men from having a social life. That being said anyone can make friends. It is just way harder for some than others.

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Anonymous #4 1d

This isn't true literally at all 😭 ugly women are 'less lonely' bc their female friendships offer a fulfilling level of intimacy. Ugly men don't recieve proper care from their fellow men in the ways that ugly women recieve proper care from their fellow women Y'all need to take care of eachother better

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Anonymous #3 1d

Also go outside and walk around. You'll quickly see MANY gorgeous women with ugly men. You may have to keep walking for a few years before you see a good looking man with an ugly woman.

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Anonymous #3 1d

That is literally a longer way of saying exactly what I said.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Again, you just confirmed the issue is that men neglect their fellow men. Please love eachother 😭

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Anonymous #4 1d

You said it's bc women are seen to have inherent value and men aren't. Like no, it's bc y'all men are killing yourselves 😭 don't leave your ugly brothers out

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Anonymous #3 1d

I never denied that lmao. I said men are more likely to ignore ugly men when making friends more than women. I agree with what you are saying and go out of my way when I see guys that are struggling because I have been there. I used to be beyond chopped for a few years bc of a med I was taking and how I was treated by everyone was a night and day difference. It is actually astonishing how much attractiveness affects social life and I think we ignore this or at least minimize it as a society.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Interesting emoji to use when talking about suicide. Also yes women are seen as having inherent value. This has been the case since literally the dawn of time and it does not take a genius to understand why.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I didn't mean literally killing yourselves, I meant it figuratively 😭 Thank you, actually, ig, for thinking us women are so important and valuable dang It doesn't feel that way at all. Society/the patriarchy does a phenomenal job of making women feel extremely inferior and smaller than small. Atp the ability to get pregnant feels like a horribly unfortunate curse/punishment rather than something good. So thank you.

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Anonymous #3 1d

I just think if men took better care of eachother, then we'd all be able to flourish together We're waiting for you guys 🥲❤️

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Anonymous #3 1d

This is gonna sound super incelly but i promise I am not one but women have inherent value of the time it takes to have a child. Speaking of the patriarchy this is actually sort of why it exists, I dont think that’s good for the record. Go back to caveman time. Theoretically a man can conceive a child literally every day of his adult life. A woman cannot. Think of it this way. If you have 50 men and one women have how many babies can you make in a year. Now do 1 man and 50 women.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Even tho we as a society are far beyond that way of thinking. Caveman brain is strong and in the back of our minds we still have traces of this thought process. And yes men and women are ment to be a team and I hope it happens. But for op to say the male loneliness epidemic is self caused is ridiculous. Not every lonely guy is a incel with crumbs in their beard. Most of them are just socially awkward and feel like they have no way to meet people.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Also this isn’t just a male thing. A lot of women are lonely too. But I think the cause and type of loneliness is slightly different.

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Anonymous #1 1d

This ain’t a conservative thing smh

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Anonymous #6 1d

Lmao you bet your ass it is. The “Manosphere” is one of the symptoms of it. Incels are largely right wing men.

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Anonymous #1 1d

There are different types of conservatives lmao. Not every conservative is a part of the “Manosphere”. “Incels” don’t actually exist if we’re referring to sex. Men across the board are getting lonelier if we’re referring to relationships.

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Anonymous #6 1d

All conservatives are bootlicking billionaire ball gargling dipshits. Incels do actually exist. What rock are you living under? There is so much systemic hatred of women to the point it’s become its own sub culture. Seriously you have NO IDEA what you are talking about

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Anonymous #1 1d

Not true. There are so many sexworkers out there that will sleep with just about anyone. Incels do not exist by the true definition. Someone hating women doesn’t make them an incel.

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Anonymous #6 1d

"Incel" is a portmanteau of "involuntary celibate". It refers to members of an online subculture of mostly heterosexual men who cannot find romantic or sexual partners despite desiring them. The culture is often characterized by extreme frustration, self-pity, and hostility or misogyny directed toward women. What other definition is there? Shut the fuck up

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Anonymous #1 1d

And like I said, there are so many sex workers out there that will sleep with just about anyone. So if we are going by men who cannot find sexual partners, that just doesn’t exist. That’s a lazy or cheap person, not an incel. If we are going by men who cannot final romantic partners, that number is increasing across the board, not just among right wingers.

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Anonymous #6 1d

You guys are both dumb as fuck

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Anonymous #4 1d

Nah

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Anonymous #4 1d

Are you a conservative male?

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Anonymous #1 1d

No lmao

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Anonymous #4 1d

You make broad generalizations about shit you know nothing about. You are just as much of an issue as far right conservatives are in this country. Extremely black and white worldview while holding little to no compassion for people who hold different beliefs than you. You actually sound similar to the incels you preach against. You villainize a specific group to the point where they are not even people anymore in your eyes all while victimizing yourself it’s actually laughable.

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Anonymous #4 23h

Fuck all conservatives they sold their souls and values to pedophile billionaires who do not give a fuck about them. Shut the fuck up with your holier than thou high pedestal bullshit. You little bitch

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Anonymous #4 23h

You're referring to the general loneliness epidemic! That isn't the male loneliness epidemic, that's just the current loneliness epidemic everyone is struggling with (just your average socially awkward, lost individual). The male loneliness epidemic is specifically the one afflicting incels and redpilled psychos! I do agree that a lot of people do still have strong primitive thinking when it comes to their brain wiring (caveman brain), which is the cause of a lot of our issues.

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Anonymous #3 23h

You have a large chunk of the population with evolved, transcended ways of thinking/brain-wiring. Then you have a large chunk of the population caged into primitive thought patterns and caveman brain. Both groups look at the other like they're crazy.

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Anonymous #3 23h

I was an intellectual all my life. Highly educated but I just have 0 fucking patience for these red pilled morons or the people who think they are holier than those who are pissed off and done with kind words and kind attitudes. Those ones are far too new to the fight they haven’t learned yet that going high has done fuck all. So it’s gut punches and vitriol from here on out.

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Anonymous #4 23h

You dumbass they aren’t people. Why the fuck are you standing up for the most violent, stupid, arrogant, hypocritical vermin in this country? They back politicians who keep laws in place like child marriage, abortion bans including for incest and rape, they cheer when they win the right to MARRY THEIR COUSINS, they back billionaires and corporations and see them as the “hardest workers in the country” they support pedophile protecting politicians who protects their rich criminal friends.

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Anonymous #1 23h

Lmaooooo real smart one you are. “Noooo 😡 we should only love people who think like me, everyone else can get fucked! I’m a tolerant loving liberal until someone disagrees with me! By the way everyone who doesn’t think like me (half the country) is evil 😡 😡.” You are an overgrown child. You are incapable of empathy and have an extremely tribalistic mentality incapable of even considering why someone may not share your beliefs. You are not as smart as you think you are.

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Anonymous #4 23h

Your way of thinking is a disease

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Anonymous #4 23h

Half the county is evil you absolute shit for brains they knew the risks they knew the consequences they didn’t fucking care. You’re the one who is not even remotely as intelligent as you think you are. I have 0 empathy ZERO for conservatives and right wingers who support pedophile politicians who protect billionaires and corporations from law. Law that seems to only apply to the poorest of society and not the richest. You’re a fucking moron. You live in fantasy land.

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Anonymous #4 23h

You’re also too fucking stupid to reply to my comment rather than your own you dumbass

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Anonymous #4 23h

I support HUMAN RIGHTS which means I oppose all conservatives and all right wing policies that attack HUMAN RIGHTS. They care more about the fucking AI robots and corporations than they do about other humans. And I’m not a fucking liberal I’m a leftist. Go educate yourself on the difference.

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Anonymous #1 23h

Not one conservative I know agrees with those points. Of course those things are wrong. Also many liberal states allow child marriage and which is wrong including California. This legislation is very hard to change and most Americans don’t know these laws exist. There are plenty of liberal billionaires and frankly billionaires are necessary to maintain the value system that helps YOU as well. Saying billionaires are bad as a blanket statement shows me how little you understand about economics.

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Anonymous #1 23h

Right I live in fantasy land. You live in the greatest nation in the history of the world and fail to recognize it. This country has the most abundance ever and the most opportunity for class mobility. You have no idea how half the country lives or even thinks. You have your own one dimensional world view of victim hood. Also lets here it what is your ideal society and how would you get there?

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Anonymous #1 23h

Yeah #4 was right about you you’re fucking dumb.

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Anonymous #1 23h

You are most certainly not an intellectual and it is hilarious you would call yourself one. What do you think qualifies yourself as an intellectual?

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Anonymous #4 23h

Are you insane? The greatest nation in the world? Lmao you’re such a closeted right winger it’s so obvious. NAME A SINGLE THING THE US DOES BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE THAT BENEFITS ALL OF SOCIETY. You got fucking nothing

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Anonymous #6 23h

Go find a sex worker you fucking incel

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Anonymous #3 23h

everyone is governed subliminally by caveman brain in many ways and if you think you are exempt from that you are wrong. Tbh this isn’t even a debated phenomenon

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Anonymous #1 23h

Literally almost everything. The United States has been at the forefront of technology for a century. We have the best medical care anywhere in the world. We have the best scientists, we have the best higher ed system, we are responsible for every major modern technological breakthrough, we give more foreign aid than anyone, we have the best economy anywhere,

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Anonymous #1 23h

I’ll pass lmao

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Anonymous #4 23h

I don’t have enough space to explain it Get rid of the two party system Set term limits for all members of government Move to a single payer healthcare system Create a college education system that allows for free college education through taxation like Germany, Norway and Sweden. Look at any pole they do shit better people are happier and poverty and crime are lower.

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Anonymous #1 23h

It is mind boggling that you would even say this. By the way, the only countries that have better standards of living across the board are very small extremely homogeneous nations by comparison that are export economies that run on capitalism. Your grasp on the world is feeble. Calling me a closeted conservative shows me how little you understand. You have been brainwashed to think that anyone who doesn’t think America is a pile of shit does not share your political identity. You are dumb.

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Anonymous #4 22h

Technology that is now killing creativity in favor of AI is not a fucking achievement, we aren’t even in the top 30 for medical care you fucking dumbass. Our own government is defining scientists and medical research. DOGE defunded multiple medical research funds like pediatric cancer research for one. Our higher education is a joke compared to the rest of the world again in the top 30, this administration ended most foreign aid you complete idiot.

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Anonymous #1 22h

Defunding**

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Anonymous #6 22h

You sure sounded obsessed with it you fucking weirdo

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Anonymous #4 22h

So you’re fine with mediocrity instead of trying to actually make this “the greatest nation in the world” you’re a moron .

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Anonymous #1 22h

Term limits, fantastic, most people agree with you. You point to the exact small homogeneous countries I pointed out. It is much easier to implement these systems. The us subsidies the world’s health care system by absorbing rnd costs allowing them to charge less for it. This needs to change. ALMOST ALL medical innovation comes out of America. WE HAVE THE BEST HOSPITALS IN THE WORLD. The United States absolutely has the best higher ed system in the world.

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Anonymous #4 22h

If you actually believe this is the greatest nation in the world at this point and time you’re fucking delusional the rest of the civilized world has classified us as a fascist country. They’re doing deals with China the price of the US dollar drops each month. Do you know what happens when we are no longer the world reserve currency and nobody trusts us to keep our word and follow through on things we agreed to? A second Great Depression. You have no idea NONE of how bad things are going to get

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Anonymous #1 22h

You suggest I am fine with mediocrity. Of course we should push for things to be better. But for you to say the United States is behind is insane and we absolutely are the greatest nation in the world.

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Anonymous #4 22h

There is no pole that agrees with you except for ones done by right wing outlets. International poles and statistics do not reflect your view or theirs.

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Anonymous #1 22h

Also yeah I’m not a fan of doge. Two things can be true at once. I don’t have to like the current administration to still think America is a great place to live. You still think I am a conservative because i do not think like you

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Anonymous #4 22h

We allowed a pedophile, war criminal, rapist, scam artist, and pathological liar, to violate the law and our own constitution so he can commit to the following of his agenda and the people who funded his campaigns agenda as well as the billionaire tech bros agenda for what THEY see as the future for the US.

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Anonymous #4 22h

It’s not a great place to live though! It’s an okay place at best. We could make it a fantastic place to live but conservatives and corporate democrats hold us all back.

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Anonymous #1 22h

I never sounded obsessed with anything you’re just completely emotional

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Anonymous #4 22h

We can’t even just let people be who they want to be and we STILL have politicians on the right making laws and regulations that target minority groups.

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Anonymous #1 22h

You bring up the global reserve currency. The euro will never be the a reserve currency, they would need centralize their bond markets and that will never happen. Also Europe literally cannot lend enough for that to happen. What else the renminbi? China is not going to open up their capital markets.

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Anonymous #6 22h

And people like you are nothing but pretentious know it all’s talking about how Incels don’t exist because sex workers exist lmao what a fucking joke.

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Anonymous #4 22h

They literally already have been.

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Anonymous #1 22h

I can’t let it go that you called yourself an intellectual 😂. That actually requires diversity of thought.

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Anonymous #4 22h

You said you are highly educated. In what?

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Anonymous #4 22h

I do not need to accept conservative ideology or opinions to be an intellectual you idiot. There is nothing of value from the pedo party

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Anonymous #1 22h

Lmaoo what qualifies you as an intellectual

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Anonymous #4 22h

I use critical thinking and research, I analyze information. I have degrees in journalism and communications.

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Anonymous #4 22h

You got it wrong that China won’t open their capital markets. They already have been they’ve been benefiting from this administrations colossal failures and threatening of our allies.

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Anonymous #4 22h

You don’t even know what an intellectual is. Define it.

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Anonymous #1 22h

Critical thinking has led you to believe half the country is evil. Wow your thinking must be of the highest quality. College degrees do not make you an intellectual nor do they make you smart. Also those are two of the most politically captured degrees you can have.

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Anonymous #4 22h

Evil. Willfully Ignorant. or Stupid. You and #6 are hilarious how badly you piggy back each other.

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Anonymous #4 22h

A daily reminder that half the country voted for a man who’s been accused of sexual assault over 2 dozen times. Yeah you gotta be pretty fucking stupid or evil to support that. You’d have to be immensely stupid to think the businessman nepo baby who dodged the draft and cheats at fucking golf. Was ever going to be on your side.

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Anonymous #1 22h

Again you show me how little you understand the economic system. China had to turn to capitalism otherwise they would be back in the Stone Age. They will never open it to what is required to make the renminbi the reserve currency. They would need to let money flow freely out of their country. Their central bank must completely deregulate their currency to the markets mercy. This would cause massive capital flight. They would need to lend MASSIVE amounts of money the west which is not happening.

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Anonymous #1 22h

You act like I voted for him bro and to be honest if you cannot see how people would vote for him after the fucking disaster the democrats pulled in that election. I mean that was one of the worst political campaigns in the history of the world. The democrats are absolutely to blame for loosing that election after propping up Biden for 4 years. It might be the worst political blunder of all time tbh. If you cannot see that I can’t help you. Not beating Trump is an all time blunder.

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Anonymous #4 22h

To be clear I do not support Trump but what I just said is objectively true.

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Anonymous #4 21h

Oh I fully agree with you it was a colossal failure but I also do not pardon blame for those who voted for that man. They never did any research at all into who he actually is or they simply never fucking cared.

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Anonymous #4 21h

I hate establishment democrats, I do not like the democratic leaders. I do not like the current state of the Democratic Party hell just saying it feels like a nasty word. Yes it’s pathetic they lost to Trump and the current leaders need to be primaried out of existence especially since they are STILL trying to support Israel, I am a progressive I support progressive policies, I’m just sick of the years of being kind and cordial with Repubs that sheer hatred is all I have left for the right.

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Anonymous #1 21h

Well I’m glad we agree on something. Not pardoning blame is interesting tho. Once again, no empathy.

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Anonymous #4 21h

Not anymore. I’m fresh out. Not for them.

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Anonymous #4 21h

Also at the beginning of this whole conversation you said all conservative males deserve to be lonely. If conservatives are as bad as you say why not conservative women too?

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Anonymous #4 21h

And why should I have any empathy for these people? Especially when the shit they voted for fucks over their lives? Lol “oh no the leopards eating faces party ate my face” type of energy.

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Anonymous #4 21h

You make a good point. All conservatives should be lonely. Conservative women are like LGBTQ conservatives. The self hatred is illogical and stupid.

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Anonymous #1 21h

Well good chat. I’m going to go outside now and play basketball with my ideologically diverse friend group who understands that even if you have opposing views you can still be friends while refusing to let divisive politicians get between us.

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Anonymous #4 21h

I can’t stay friends with people who support the pain and subjugation of other friends of mine.

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Anonymous #1 21h

Ps. Im going to listen to Donald Trump by Mac miller on the way over because I am capable of separating art from a person.

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Anonymous #4 21h

Yeah in some ways 'caveman brain' can be helpful, and everyone has certain elements of it (innate fears and disgust, survival instincts, etc) But a lot of people also have extremely disadvantageous 'caveman brain' (primitive tribalism, lack of impulse control, violent tendencies, etc) and that type of 'caveman brain' is NOT still experienced by everyone. Plenty of people are evolved past that, or have managed to break free of those primitive neural pathways throughout their lives.

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Anonymous #3 21h

I don’t think caveman brain good btw. I’m saying every human is still influenced by it whether they like it or not. Yes some more than others. But to say some people are able to completely move past it is wrong. My position is that caveman brain affects our lives way more than we think it does.

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Anonymous #1 21h

Al

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Anonymous #3 21h

What the fuck does this mean

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Anonymous #4 16h

Do you know the story of that song? Do you know Mac Miller himself regretted making it???

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Anonymous #4 16h

Do you know that Mac Miller had Trump demanding royalties for the song and later on Mac Miller became an outspoken critic of the failed businessman and the worst president in the history of the US?

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Anonymous #4 16h

You’re not “separating the art from the person” you’re being blatantly ignorant and saying some stupid shit that makes you look even MORE ignorant

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Anonymous #4 16h

"An egomaniacal, attention-thirsty, psychopathic, power-hungry, delusional waste of skin and bones" Mac Millers exact quote about Trump.

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Anonymous #1 16h

Lmaooo the song still bangs tho.

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Anonymous #4 16h

It’s a fucking song grow up

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