it’s deranged that you think you can determine whether or not someone online is for-real autistic based solely on how they publicly express their relationship to the label / condition. also deranged that you feel this vitriolic about it while not being autistic yourself

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like at least if you were autistic then you would be approaching this conversation from an in-community perspective… you would at least arguably be someone who was directly affected by the way people talk about their experience of autism. but you aren’t, you’re just ranting about how much you hate a certain type of autistic person. nauseating

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oh my god lmao, it’s even more unhinged if you think anyone gains real-world “clout” from publicly self-describing as autistic 😭 as if we don’t get fucking ostracized for talking about it in social contexts. you know, like you’re doing right now. ranting about how much you HATE when people publicize their autism!

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if you were only whining about people you saw online then I guess I could sorrrrrt of understand the idea that some people gain positive attention from centering their autism. maybe that happens on tiktok or whatever. not at your college or work though, holy shit

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this frankly makes the “not a culture or a badge of honor” talk wildly demeaning. you just want us to shut up about it and feel ashamed

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you don’t even know the fucking difference between a DISORDER and a DISEASE

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comparing autism to cancer is disgusting

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you quite obviously do not actually “care” lol. at least I can speak on behalf of *an* autistic person, which is more than you can say

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I love how they were rightfully ashamed enough to go back and delete all their despicable replies, but were still too much of a petty coward to apologize, admit to being wrong, or even just delete the post

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I’m embarrassed on their behalf… like I thought *I* wasted too much time on useless pursuits online, but this is a whole other level. bro desperately needs a hobby or two

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No, i deleted my comments because yours had vanished. I didn’t know blocking someone on the app did that. But sure, believe what you want

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Recording it, posting it, and then commenting on says otherwise

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That’s not even me dipshit, you ublocked someone else

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Congratulations

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WAIT, you were on here messing with the pro-cheating types today???? I’ve actually been up to something similar between yesterday and today, that’s such a wild coincidence lmao. same type of wavelength I guess 🤝

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Anonymous OP 51w

nope, you deleted your replies to me as well and I haven’t ever actually blocked you yet. if anything your willingness to lie about basic stuff like this just reinforces that you are in fact a willfully-deceptive creep on top of being a raging ableist

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beautiful, at the end of the day it turns out participating in this thread just made me feel all the better about being autistic 😌 lfg ethical standards, common neurodivergent W

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Amazing how instead of addressing the merit of the post itself, both of you resort to harassment and name calling. I’m not offended, I’m disappointed that both of you are defending medical stolen valor. Go ahead, continue saying that i’m wrong simply because you don’t like me. Continue with your disgusting behavior. At the end of the day, I’m going to keep calling out fuckers who falsely claim to have a disorder for personal gain. You two obviously don’t care about that but I do.

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Yeah, real charming.

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Yup, you’re clearly the representative of autism. This is how you want to represent

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I hope to god nobody ever feels compelled to stand up for you against actual bullying in the real world. They would met with this kind of behavior and be deterred from do so in the future.

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whoa there, it was earnestly nice interacting with you earlier but I need you to know that making jokes about AIDS is crossing a serious line. that remark isn’t gonna make this shitty OP think twice about their behavior but it Is hurtful to queer people such as myself

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Anonymous OP 51w

I didn’t harass you to begin with actually, and there *is* no merit to the post itself because you aren’t someone whose life experience would enable you to clock when someone is or isn’t “faking”. like #1 said, that misplaced confidence of yours just leads to real autistic people absorbing those kinds of accusations for no good reason. this is not a call you are capable of making. sit down and stop talking over autistic folks

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comical amount of unwarranted smugness going on here on your end, for someone whose previous replies along these lines were so misinformed & ignorant that even you yourself felt appropriately embarrassed and wound up deleting them

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Anonymous #2 51w

Yeah ok. It’s clear to me that you both are actively arguing against the very concept of outsider advocacy. You think that neurotypical people are incapable of discerning a lie when they hear one. That is beyond reductive and counterproductive. People without autism have every right to stand up to bad behavior regardless of what you think.

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Nah, you don’t get to speak for #2 or anyone else. They are more than capable of defending their own arguments without your vile comments

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ah, well tbc if you’re queer yourself then I’m definitely not trying to get aggro over it. just wanna request that you not throw that one around as a taunt due to our cultural history 🙏 (I mean personally I feel iffy about STI jokes in general tbh, but that’s more of an individual position, not my place to raise a fuss over)

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Saying shit like "as a queer person myself" is the exact fucking reason i hate people who use their identity as a feee pass for bad behavior. You do not get to make shitty comments just because those comments target your own community. Saying shit like that is beyond destructive

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Anonymous OP 51w

you’re the one trying to speak on my behalf 💀 #1’s reply to me was perfectly chill polite & responsible, them being queer too is in fact relevant info. notice how potential conflict can be resolved pretty much immediately by mutually-respectful & earnest communication…

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Anonymous #2 51w

And yet you still don’t get the fucking point. You’re both STILL arguing that neurotypicals have no right to advocate for autism simply because you feel they haven’t earned it. You are actively promoting isolation by bullying not just me, but everyone who steps up to bullies and clout chasers. I don’t need either of your permission to shut down liars and bullies.

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and nah, I just can see that you in particular are direly overstepping the bounds of what you’re equipped to speak about so confidently because you demonstrably have no firsthand understanding of the complex societal issues autistic people have to navigate every day of our lives. some part of you understands this too, hence the deleted replies

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Anonymous #2 51w

What you just said is precisely the problem! I don’t need to have first hand experience or a deep insight on the struggles of autism to know simply that some people struggle with it. I don’t need a fucking phd in psychology specialized in autism to tell clout chasers to fuck all the way off. You’re still making the same point “you don’t have autism therefore you don’t get to advocate”

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Yeah, that’s a real great way to respond

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Well, then that’s your clue to stop talking to me. I clearly don’t understand what you’re saying or why.

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“haven’t earned it”… well initially I was just saying that 1) you simply aren’t privy enough to the spectrum of autistic experience to be able to effectively make that call—which isn’t an insult, just acknowledgment of your positionality—and 2) your outright hostility towards people you Presume to be fakers is alarming in this context. but by now I say you should stay out of the convo entirely due to how you keep needlessly escalating your aggressiveness in response to criticism

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Anonymous #2 51w

I respond aggressively to name calling and disgusting comments. Go ahead and keep telling people that outsider advocacy is bad, that’s a real great way to support your community.

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Anonymous OP 51w

bruh. “some people’s experience of autism is a struggle for them” is so obviously not what you said. be real. what you were doing was asserting that if people don’t perform the exact type of struggle that you expect to see from an autistic person, then they must be exploitative liars, and you’re so convinced of your own perception’s perfect accuracy that you even feel justified in going off on disproportionate hate screeds against them

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it’s almost as if #1 and I have taken the time to keep replying to you, in spite of your attitude & refusal to understand, because we’ve been hopeful we might actually get through to you about an issue which directly affects both of us. one which, again, does Not pose any real consequences for you

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You are intentionally misconstruing what i said. I very clearly stated that I go after people who lie about having autism.

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yeah, and it’s juvenile & counterproductive to respond with continually-escalating aggression towards people who only got irritable with you in the first place because you were being ableist. when you are hateful towards marginalized people over said marginalization then it makes sense you would be met with anger. the anger was your own provocation… the ball is in your court and you just keep doubling down. which helps no one.

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like #1 said, neurotypicals Advocating for autistic folks is a fine thing. nothing you’ve said here was Advocacy, just misguided shit-slinging followed by stubbornly defensive reactivity

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Anonymous OP 51w

no more talking in circles. for the last time: you have an excess of misplaced confidence in your ability to identify who’s actually lying about having autism or not. until you accept that you’re not actually reliably proficient at making this call, what you’re doing is nothing more than being ableist

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I hear that, like I know this is kind of a cliche but sometimes I really do feel like I’m not even living on the same planet as people who can’t comprehend what it’s like to go through life being misjudged, misunderstood in bad faith and denied basic accommodation just for the way our brains work

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Anonymous #2 51w

Fine. Message received. You clearly have a problem with neurotypicals standing up to liars. So fine, if the autistic community doesn’t want clout chasers called out, i’ll spread the word. No more calling bs on people who claim autism as an excuse for bad behavior

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which, I feel similarly about being physically disabled, personally—sometimes it can even be alienating as hell trying to relate to people who do Have a physical disability but are able to move through the world such that their experience isn’t shaped by it the way mine is. I had to start prioritizing other people for whom that’s a conscious everyday political battle

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Anonymous OP 51w

yawn. just stay out of autistic people’s business please. focus on your own shit. it’s that simple

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Anonymous #2 51w

Got it. Autistic people can defend themselves. You don’t need or even want advocacy. I’ll be sure to turn a blind eye in the future when i see bullying or abuse.

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Anonymous OP 51w

orrrrr you could make a point of actively listening and learning til you begin to figure out what advocating for us actually looks like and how to approach that, but like. based on this whole exchange, I won’t be holding my breath. bye!

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