Anonymous #1 14h

Everyone just wants to use stats to push their bias one way or the other

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Anonymous #2 14h

And when they are educated, how will that change the way the world treats him? Men rape men too and like me, will he also be labeled a monster even when he suffers from other men? Labeled as submissive for being forced upon and not a “real man for sticking up for himself?”

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Anonymous #2 14h

You really think women are oppressed when a majority of colleges are majority women? And there are tons of initiatives for women and there is a ton of awareness around cases where women are abused?

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Anonymous #1 14h

You realize that by constricting “masculinity” you create guys who have no healthy outlets right? Just as how the Chinese in the past constricting feminity caused mass female baby murders there are likely people who have gotten abortions when their fetus is male

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Anonymous OP 13h

Okay idk if you’ve noticed but the people who call male rape victims “submissive” is nearly always men. They’re also the same people who say “pass the control” or “jealous” men don’t take rape victims of any gender seriously.

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Anonymous #1 13h

Yes I do think women are oppressed. Less men are going to college for a multitude of reason, including trade school. So saying that college alone is evidence is laughable. Women still experience higher rates of assault. Are completely under represented in leadership positions (please tell me the last time we had a female head of state) we are seeing the worlds largest push by red pill content to put women back in the house (they just escaped), womens healthcare is lacking. Yeah, they are

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Anonymous #2 13h

You are delusional bro

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Anonymous #1 13h

Riveting response 🙄

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Anonymous #1 13h

Talk to the patriarchy about restricting “masculinity” all they say is men can’t show emotions unless it’s anger and deter men from therapy and emotional intelligence

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Anonymous #2 13h

Yea I agree thats not masculinity. Both “masculine” and “feminine” are just used now to get people to submit and do what the other side wants

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Anonymous #1 13h

Youre doing the same thing the “patriarchy” does but you think its righteous because its your cause

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Anonymous #1 13h

Please enlighten me oh wise one!! tell me how I’m doing the same thing as patriarchy!

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Anonymous #2 13h

This is it right here, you have all the answers

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Anonymous #1 13h

Idk why everyone has to tell everyone else how to live

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Anonymous #1 13h

Ohhhhh okay I see! Teaching my hypothetical son to respect women and call out bad people is what makes me like the patriarchy! Ohhh how silly of me! How could I not see the difference??

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Anonymous #2 13h

If you say in your sons life and raise him normally and engage his interests chances are he will develop into a well adjusted person without have some neurotic tendency about how girls perceive him

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Anonymous #1 13h

Stay*

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Anonymous #1 13h

Yeah where in my comment did I suggest otherwise?

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Anonymous #2 13h

When I was raped, men didn’t call me submissive. It was usually women that did. The men would chalk it up to me being lucky but neither side had any ounce of empathy more than the other

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Anonymous OP 13h

Yep that’s why it’s important to advocate for holding rapists accountable. I fail to see how this proves me wrong. There are women who also protect men and there are men who protect women. The exception is not the rule and you deserve justice all the same as the woman from Cornell

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Anonymous #2 13h

I had my arm broken at a feminist rally because an outbreak accused the men attending of infiltrating the rally looking for sex. They didn’t take the time to look at the 3 years of work I had put in at organizations for the movement they immediately assumed I was a creep

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Anonymous #2 13h

I’m never going to see justice because I’m seen as part of the problem. I was raped by a family member and she’s still walking around to this day completely fine. I couldn’t even testify because I was scared of the backlash of both sides and then got more backlash for fake accusations just cuz I’m a man

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Anonymous OP 13h

Im sorry that happened to you but I see zero correlation with holding rapists accountable. You shouldn’t do things so women like you. You should do them because it’s the right thing to do. Since when did kindness become transactional

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Anonymous #2 13h

It wasn’t because women liked me. It’s that men don’t matter as allies. Men hating and fear mongering turned women against allies like me and my life was at stake for the causes I wanted to fight for because even if I was raped, even if I wanted justice for the women who were like me, I was still an enemy

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Anonymous #2 13h

I was shunned from the group I worked for when my clip circulated because they believed the women accusing us of being creeps. When I went to work for an organization in the state my cousins lived in, that clip followed me there. My gender mattered more than my actions and I don’t know how else to help or even seek justice for rape victims including myself because of a clip online

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Anonymous #2 13h

What do you do next? Can’t advocate with other men cuz male rape victims aren’t taken as seriously. Can’t advocate with the women cuz im seen as a creep. Can’t advocate for myself cuz both sides treated like it was my fault

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Anonymous #2 13h

I didn’t realize finding justice for people like me and finding community with these people I wanted to fight for was such a transaction and selfish behavior

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