
Just to clarify. Men CAN have just as much self control as women. But when society says they donāt have to and that itās womenās faults that they feel the way they do, they internalise that they donāt have to. If we didnāt have rape culture and a more socially egalitarian society, both men and women could control themselves to posting about their hormones on YikYak instead of hurting people.
Is it that men do not have self control or is it related to media that men consume which says it is normal if not correct for men to act this way. Even in Childrenās media, boys are encouraged to accept romantic advances even if they are uninterested or uncomfortable with them. Kissing a boy without interest is deemed funny because they internally want it, kissing a girl without interest is deemed inappropriate because girls are supposed to be uninterested in that sort of thing.
i would like to give my input as a trans man. i have experienced both ovulation and male levels of testosterone⦠from my PERSONAL experience itās my understanding that menās AVERAGE level of horniness is higher, like weāre pretty much always a little bit in the mood. but the PEAK levels of horniness iāve experienced in life WERE during ovulation while experiencing female hormonal patterns. so⦠kinda both
Alright, people need to educate themselves on biology before speaking about hormones⦠yes, men and women have differing levels of sex hormones (estrogen/progesterone/testosterone), but they have the SAME AFFECT on libido. Testosterone is not the only hormone that affects labido! Estrogen affects labido in women just as testosterone affects labido in men! Testosterone is not āTHEā sex hormone. Test. AND estrogen are.
Just to clarify: neuroscience tells us that men statistically think about sex every 4 minutes. Women have sex drives that fluctuate which bring peaks and valleys, but a completely different set of hormones every day for the 28-30 day ovulation cycle. Women have more self control in general with the stigma behind females and their sensuality, but men also have much higher testosterone levels that are consistent and just naturally think about sexā¦self awareness AND control are beautiful things.
Actually most women want men to show emotion because itāsā¦. Healthy. Donāt blame women for men not showing emotion when it was men who created that standardā¦. Also if men did show emotion and learned emotional intelligence/ communication, you would not have to put up with āwomenās shitā (that most of the time is also a manās fault).
Actually, most of the time itās the womenās fault. The women usually brings things up that arenāt that big of a deal and itās in their head. Oh, you guys want men to show emotion? Then why is it that when I do they are disgusted? Not sure where youāre getting āmostā from. And men do have emotional intelligence and communication. We simply donāt let emotions run our entire life like women do. In addition, I want to avoid the drama because a lot of emotional women like to get involved with drama.
Also, if I woman brings up something she doesnāt like sheās creating a boundary. And if you keep breaking that boundary then you do not have emotion intelligence or the capability of communicating properly. However is there disrespectful and extremely dramatic women yes. But donāt think men donāt have a part in it.
The thing is I do respect them. I have had many comments from female friends that say Iām good at it. That Iām nice, that Iām loyal, that Iām everything they would want in a bf. But Iām still fucking single. Because these women want someone whoās making 6 figures and white and 6 feet tall and white. Iām 5ā4ā and Asian and finishing up college so of course Iām gonna single. Dating is fucked because BOTH the majority of men and women suck.
I donāt like how they made it seem like itās simply a mental issue, basically downplaying testosterone like it doesnāt affect the body significantly especially in the high amounts itās produced in men. Sure itās not just that but when you mix that in with the mental lust. Itās not easy to get rid of
No one has ever argued that itās easy to get rid of lust. We said have decency and self control. No amount of hormones will ever drive you to do the things some men do, they just lack control. Ovulation is literally equivalent to animals in heat yet women donāt go around humping people like weāre dogs
I get that, I havenāt found really good men either like most Iāve seen is cheaters and pedophiles. But nowadays it is also our society that is teaching certain things. There as good men and women out there but we canāt generalize and make all women look evil when we are taught from birth and have to unlearn societal pressures that men now have to as well.
when you have prageru videos on men being visual creatures or whatever the fuck, that they just canāt help/control this instinct about themselves and shouldnāt be demonized for it as a defense against an argument no one is making, and then you have prageru starting to become school curriculum in some placesā¦
yes of course thereās plenty of preaching about how men can and should have self control but at the moment it isnāt all that much louder than the constant reminders that men donāt need to have it and can continue living materially normal, even amazing lives if they just donāt give a fuck about others. not to say theyāre not suffering in their own way, but
And Iām not generalizing women either like youāre accusing me of doing. Iām only talking to the people in this thread. And false? So youāre calling my experiences false? Verbal and emotional abuse by females in my past is false? Youāre making inflammatory statements because of your unwillingness to understand the experience of another. I do believe there are good women out there but I donāt know the equation to find them
They can be linked together but they are not the same thing. Hunger is not inherently the same as a food addiction, although one plays a role in the other. You do not know what you are talking about. Especially since the objectification of women does not require lust and vice versa.
Itās not ācan beā they are linked together in fact lust is the main key factor to addiction.You need lust to have lustful thinking, you need lust to be addicted sexually. Objectifying women sexually is literally is literally a form of lust if the only thing you can think about is her body. Whatāre we talking about rnš.
When did I ever say that itās false that women can abuse people? I was focusing on your statement that women on average let their emotions run them more, which simply isnāt true. Given that you double down on these statements and refer to us as āfemalesā, it seems that you have let your past abusive relationships justify your current sexism and dehumanisation of us, and itās really unfortunate. See a therapist would be my recommendation.
No, itās an evolutionary trait. Men compete for women and jump at the opportunity while generally women select the men and are more picky. Thatās how good genes are usually passed on. Itās just basic there. How do we ālack self control?ā Itās not like I cheat or something.
My favorite moments with my boyfriend are the ones where he is vulnerable with me. Also, saying that women just bring up insignificant things and that makes it their fault that you canāt express your emotions makes absolutely no sense. Talking about issues makes a safe space for others to open up about their own. You just sound like you hate women.
I donāt think they mean they donāt have to have self control but most people say to the woman āwhat were you wearingā and ādid you provoke him?ā Like it was the womanās fault when we most likely just said no. So when men realize that they are placing blame on the victim they think itās okay.
Yes. but the thing is masterbation especially if itās to porn builds addiction to it and it leads to unrealistic expectations ti the real world. Not to mention most women wouldnāt like their partner to watch it. So if you get into a relationship and arenāt getting any action it may lead to reliance on it which may cause boundary breaking. Not all men get addicted to it but itās possible for sure, I also believe porn makes men objectify women more as well
āSo if a girl was SA before, is it okay for me to say, āoh yeah it appears that you let your past experiences justify your perspective on men. Go see a therapist.ā Does that seem right to you?ā BRO YES. That is exactly what she should do, not only to stop internal sexist bias but also to heal herself. Stop making excuses bro.
So why is it when someone get robbed and they are flaunting their money no is surprised, but if girl talks like h**, dresses like one then go home with guy she never met while flirting with that guy and telling him she want to crazy things and people view her as a h** then why are you surprise ?? Asking for a friend
Men are women are different and their bodies of both are designed differently so you canāt compare the to on why they act differently and show lack of empathy itās like rich person telling a homeless person just go get job making 200k itās super easy why you just canāt get one I donāt get it
Men are held accountable all the time, if a dude looks at a women the wrong way he get shamed or tossed in jail just on the word of girl. Men are held accountable all the time by society proof, do you see any dudes on campus walking with just underwear or a tee-shirt no but you see a shit tone of women come on Mannn!
So you start this off by saying T is not the only HORmone involved in HORniness, and then you end it all with āthe issue is social conditioningā¦NOT your hormonesā. I am not going to argue with you - not sure if you have education or research behind this, but you are wrong and thatās all. You and the 10 others who upvoted unfortunately are just not aware and thatās on you.
if youāre saying tht society doesnt judge women nearly as much as men in terms of anything sexual youāre so fucking wrong bruh women r judged to the highest extent for expressing any type of sexual desire bc according to society us women are supposed to be modest & reserved & not "crude sluts/whores"
Trump, pragerU, Tate; it sounds like you have more of a problem with cult leaders and manipulative narcissists than you do with āmen, generalizedā because falsely conflating āsocietyā with the most corrupt disgusting people on earth isnāt fair to the rest of us who hate those people.
Lol I misunderstood š but still all Iām hearing is that you were literally a kid who spent years struggling with your gender identity and is now where you want to be. Testosterone is a libido driver in both genders, thereās no biological study that has ever shown that women and men donāt have equal sex drives