Anonymous #2 9w

He is 100% grace and 100% justice, hell wasn’t intended for us!! If u knew ur favorite celeb was eating children you would want them punished, I think we’ve normalized impurity so much now that we don’t recognize it. we are still deserve punishment tho!! he is Grace. He is love. He is justice. He is patient. He is loyal. He is who he is regardless! 1/2

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Anonymous #3 9w

i don’t want to hear about you defending a God that allows children to be raped, he made this world in your worldview, he allowed impurity, he created hell, he required animal sacrifices for centuries even though animals have no reason to suffer, he allowed people in the old testament to take young virgins as plunder, he flooded the world and killed everyone because he got pissed, idc if you believe he’s allowed to take everything away because he created everything, your God is immoral

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Anonymous #3 9w

don’t even get me started on the fact that i can forgive anyone without a reason but the Christian God required Jesus to die and we’re supposed to feel bad about that? like dude you made the system, Jesus didn’t need to die, it held no higher purpose

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Anonymous #2 9w

when Adam and Eve first sinned, he clothed them and performed the first sacrifice. He creatively become human, and carried the weight of our every sin. He is just and grace, and he CANNOT stop being who he is, as who he is, is governed by his nature. Throughout our history with Him, he has been choosing between punishing a corrupt world and grace. Please do not be mistaken. We all deserve hell.

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Anonymous #3 9w

a god that allows people to suffer cannot be all-loving. a god who knows exactly what it would take to have everyone on this planet believe but refuses to reveal himself until it is too late is not all loving. a god who allows and even chooses for us be born under conditions where some people will not hear of his name often enough to be swayed despite that being his main condition is not all-loving. he is a narcissist.

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Anonymous #4 9w

thank you!! exactly (coming from an ex-christian that actually read the Bible)

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Anonymous #2 9w

having grown up in the church, this part annoyed me so much (among many other things). it’s built on a system of guilt tripping.

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Anonymous #2 9w

I would love to keep this conversation going can we dm ? It’s easier for me to understand you that way. And that’s the beautiful part about his love is that I don’t have to say he simply has the authority. The world paints him as a disappointing, short tempered to God but please let me respond to you in a way you actually feel understood.

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Anonymous #5 9w

I agree, I think that’s humans that don’t know how to communicate and resort to things that don’t reflect God or his love.

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Anonymous #1 9w

All true Christian’s believe they are deserving of hell.

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Anonymous #4 9w

There are so many of u responding, I have one brain u guys are many. I know the church has misrepresented him (TRUST- I have two mothers and as u can imagine a few years back we weren’t welcomed in churches very much) if u care to not ignorantly judge a whole group of people by ur experiences or simply truly believe that I have it wrong (I am open to growth and change) PLEASE dm me!!! I will not defend a church but Father loves you and you don’t deserve to be hidden from that

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Anonymous #3 9w

you’re not responding to what we’re actually saying, you’re just repeating the same Christian rhetoric you’ve been told to believe

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Anonymous #2 9w

I’ve actually gone to Muslim and Jewish churches (ik they use a different name) trust me there is no rhetoric simiply my prayer’s respond that found agreement with the bible

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Anonymous #3 9w

you still haven’t responded to any point we’ve had

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Anonymous #2 9w

You have good points not in my view correct but it sounds like good critical thinking skills BUT I’m still one person me taking the time to respond to one person means I can’t respond to another, or worse I have multiple people giving me their ideas or misinterpretation at once. If you dm me, I can actually respond to you.

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Anonymous #2 9w

I won’t respond to one person bc what might be an answer to one is me ignoring another good point, I also want to make sure I understand you and reply to a bunch of comments is hard

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Anonymous #3 9w

You’re stuck in a bloody death cult and need therapy.

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Anonymous #7 9w

I have gone to therapy since I was seven and still do ( am 19)

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Anonymous #3 9w

You need to actually participate and learn from it, then.

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Anonymous #7 9w

I’ve never drink I’ve never smoked (NOT for religious reasons) i workout daily. I don’t eat ultra processed foods, I go to huge part school yet stay focused. considering I’m not throwing accusations back and you’re simply just assuming things about my character. I think that at the age of 19 I’m GOOD thank you

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Anonymous #3 9w

You’re clearly not.

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Anonymous #7 9w

Now we’re just arguing and doesn’t reflect him accurately if u want to DM me to learn about him or to make a good point point and hopefully change my mind feel free. This conversation is becoming pointless. I’m gonna end it.

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Anonymous #3 9w

You’re in a bloody death cult.

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Anonymous #7 9w

there was a very interesting video on youtube how Catholicism is just paganism for men, they drink the blood, eat the body, use bones in worship and remembrance, pray to saints, very interesting video

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Anonymous #2 9w

I am not catholic but I am in intrigued what video is it? Can you tell me and send me the link? I’m not arguing with you I promise. I don’t think that is ur point. I just wanna know what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous #3 9w

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcbvVlntKvT/

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Anonymous #2 9w

This is Brit from No Nonsense Spirituality, she helped me with my deconstruction and loss of faith, check her out

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Anonymous #2 9w

therimintrees has a ton of really thought provoking breakdowns as well, mostly of religion in general, some specifically christian

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Anonymous #8 9w

awe thank you for the recommendation, i’ll check them out!!

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i’m not the one in a cult lmao

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Anonymous #2 9w

Recovering From Religion has been a great repository of information I’ve combed through during deconstruction!

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Anonymous #11 9w

From the same “god” who sets you up for failure and eternal damnation. Woohoo. 🥳

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Anonymous #7 9w

The restorative narrative of all of scripture points to the fact that God repeatedly sets us up for success and we continue to rebel! We choose to live our lives apart from him, and choosing an eternity apart from love and goodness is hell, hell is just a separation from God, which we choose! But through Gods grace he gives us the opportunity to live with him in the fullness of our created purpose.

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Anonymous #7 9w

Holy strawman

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Anonymous #11 9w

It’s fine. Just make a human sacrifice if you need to. Your god loves the smell and is inclined to do more positive things because of it. Even though we’re all supposedly evil from childhood. 🙄

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Anonymous #2 9w

You obviously didn’t understand the bible then

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Anonymous #2 9w

Jesus did need to die so that we don’t have to be condemned to Hell anymore.

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Anonymous #12 9w

you don’t know anything about my life but thank you for the attention🫶🥳🎉

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Anonymous #12 9w

no one needs to die for forgiveness, God made the rules lmao

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Anonymous #6 9w

Not all Christians believe in Hell. And not all Christians believe in total depravity. I think both are horrible theologies. Why would loving God create us, call us good, give us a choice, only to say we’re deserving of hell simply for existing? It doesn’t add up. Thankfully there are other Christian perspectives.

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Anonymous #2 9w

I agree. (I’m a Christian.)

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Anonymous #11 9w

There’s no strawman about this comic. This is what many Christians believe.

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Anonymous #7 9w

Christians don’t do human sacrifice

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Anonymous #2 9w

Catholicism is not pagan what are you talking about

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Anonymous #12 9w

i didn’t say it was, i said it was similar, watch the video and start reading things with nuance🫶

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Anonymous support_dad 9w

Hell is just separation from God, which we are free to choose. True Christians believe they aren’t worthy of joining God in heaven due to the sins they’ve committed, and the worldly times they chose to go against God

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Anonymous #6 9w

“True Christians…” gotcha. In other words, “You don’t believe like me so you’re excluded.”

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Anonymous support_dad 9w

thats what im saying, people that are so absolute and strict on their interpretation allows no nuance, they never talk about divine hiddenness or nonresistant nonbelief, its always “people choose Hell, God doesn’t send you there”

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Anonymous #11 9w

IF there is some divine being I meet after I die, I would much rather be proud of the actual good I’ve done in the world for others, than flaunt some abstract sense of love for something I’ve never met. No perfectly loving being is going to go “you didn’t spend your life devoted to me even though we haven’t met?? ew gross, get out of here.” If there’s someone to meet after, I’ll meet them for the first time, not pretend I’ve known them forever.

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Anonymous #12 9w

Tell that to the christians who absolutely have. It’s in your book that your god enjoys the smell, too, of a burnt person.

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All religions are cults and all cults are religions.

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Anonymous #15 9w

Bro what

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Anonymous #3 9w

This is genuinely an idiotic argument

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Anonymous #11 9w

God knows you’ll fail to follow the rules he arbitrarily made up before you’re born

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Anonymous #12 9w

Don’t talk about Jesus or the canaanites though!

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