The guy literally said that occasional gun violence is a good thing in response to 3 CHRISTIAN children being murdered in a shooting. This was no god loving man but a god fearing one, he was trying to twist your religion to his politics and conservatives were eating it up. Respect to his family and the witnesses for that experience but he was a monster in human skin and becoming a father doesnât magically make you a good person, it takes other unrelated traits for that lol
The women who have to carry a reminder of being raped for 9 months disagree. Do you know what its like to have a reminder of your rape with you 24/7, drastically changing your life and body for 9 months straight? Not to mention potentially having to going custody battles with your rapist- cause that has happened. Avoiding all of that suffering makes a lot of womenâs lives a lot better.
It is accurate. Very few see it as a gratifying experience. The ones that do are usually pressured by religious beliefs and never seek proper treatment for their trauma. For example, the rape victims of the FLDS. They felt it was gratifying because they were groomed into believing it was godâs will.
It means a theoretical 10 year old. She is not ten and she isnt pregnant so its all theoretical - and your right, she will know that her father was a hateful man who said she didnât deserve to vote and shouldnât be allowed to go to school to make people up set and he died because his hate caused more hatred.
the thing he cared for the most in the world was his wife and kids. family meant everything to him. above everything else political he was a father and husband. he was a man of God and he raised his kids in that way. they had an amazing father and it is a tragedy he was ripped away from them so soon in their life.
No they didnât. He spent 90% of his time of the road advocating against their well being, even belittling his own wifeâs education in front of millions all for money. People who care about their families donât do that. Politics and how you treat and view your family is not separate, especially when he is trying to use politics to take away his family memeberâs rights.
??? đ bro what ?? comprehension is a skill thatâs SEVERELY lacking in america and hypocrisy rises higher each day. it wouldnât impact me personally but that doesnt make it right. & youre yelling bout how he shouldnât had to die but youre also saying his daughter should khs to avoid the actions he wouldve made her take.
in that moment, he said it loud and proud that he would have done that , so we SHOULD act with what we do know. and saying IF is sooooo crazy bro. like what ?? that doesnât change what couldâve happened, and âmaybe heâd have a change of heartâ , it didnt change while he was here since he said it and we wont be able to see it change.
ima say this and hopefully it clears all confusion on this lil thread we have cause the reply thing is so wack. you said âhe said he would, doesnt me you have toâ assuming this means that i myself doesnt have to carry the baby but why am i being inserted into this ? we were talkin about him and his daughter. 1
so saying i dont have toâ is basically saying âjs cause heâd force his daughter doesnt mean she has to listenâ so i mentioned her being a minor, she doesnt have any choice BUT to listen. and her only option to not have the baby would be to khs (which most home abortions led to when a womanâs choice is taken away) 2.
roe v wade, yes he had something to do with it. he has a big figure on social media and a large following of young adults(like he literally has a youth business), he spoke out against abortions, influencing people to speak out. with his help (and others), roe v wade was overturned. 3
âguess what the mom is a parent too buddyâ⌠okayyy ?? she very obviously supports her husband and have the same views as him. what was you getting with this ??. and saying âIF she never gets đ, they wont have to worryâ like ?? worry about their elementary daughter carrying a child that could literally k!|| her in labor or even while carrying. and addin a laughing emoji ?? absolutely sick 4
âhow would it impact youââŚ.. ohhh brother. just cause it wouldnât impact me personally, doesnt mean iâll shut up about it. who in their right mind wants to see a child pregnant ?? and forced to carry it ?? or even keep it ??? or force to do something damaging to feel better ? thefuck. 5 im done
Family can mean everything for a lot of people, that doesnât mean their attachment style is healthy. Many people âloveâ their families because they cannot perceive individuality and thus see themselves and their families as one entity; this mindset ignores both the individual and their family members and is very harmful to all those involved.
Minor correction, they can force us now. Several states have banned any and all abortions, some even advertise bounties for information on people who leave the state to get an abortion. Women are being punished just for having miscarriages. He did deserve to die, but his âopinionsâ are a large part of why thats happening,
Thatâs literally what he was wanting for his daughters and everyone elseâs children though. Support and sympathy to his family that will be fatherless, however, he himself literally wished this violence on others while laughing about it. Itâs karma and justice that it came around and showed him what gun violence is actually like. Maybe now conservatives can understand what the left meant when the hoffmans and hortmans LAWMAKERS were shot and nobody cared
He pressured agendas and laws into place, he very much had a hand in a lot of conservative agendas ranging from gun rights to abortions nationwide. Just because he wasnât an elected political figure doesnât mean him going around to speeches and colleges pushing his opinions and involving himself in legal processes isnât politics too lmao. He literally said gun violence is necessary in response to 3 Christian children being murdered in school, thatâs dirty fucking politics
You donât think people who wish murder and suffering on others they think are âbellowâ them should have karma slap them in the face? I canât say I wanted him to be shot in the neck in public and be murdered but I canât say I feel bad for the guy that literally wished this exact situation on everyone else other than himself and his âpeopleâ
Ok awesome then, we agree he was politically active and influential, now whereâs our disconnect here? The guy literally did a lot for conservatives, either acknowledge it and find another way to support his horrors or ignore his lifeâs work and effectively slander the guy youâre trying to defend FOR his lifeâs work
Dude 𤣠Iâm not saying he SHOILD have died, Iâm just saying I donât feel bad for him, thereâs a distinct difference. When someone say trans and leftist people should commit suicide and be shot up, I wonât feel bad when they are shot while discussing trans hate. Itâs called having solid and defined morals that come back to The Golden Rule, a rule he obviously forgot about
If he wanted me to side with him and feel bad for him he should t have made it clear he wouldnât give a damn about me is all it comes down to, Iâm all for being the better man but heâs dead and trumps still pushing us further into what Kirk supported so frankly I canât give a damn until I know their oppression isnât an active threat to my future
So if someone was politically active and advocating for your âgroupâ of people to commit suicide and die in gun violence, while also pushing policies that took your rights away and were directly meant to hurt you at the core of your identity, and then they were murdered by gun violence while saying some vile shit about you, you wouldnât feel like that was deserved? Once again I canât say I wanted him to be murdered but itâs out of my hands and I can only react to it, and that was karma 100%
Heâs literally spreading religiously sourced discrimination at every single one of his rallies. Thatâs all MAGA is, itâs a religiously sourced political view meant to force people to a strict Christian outlook of our country, and him pushing that on other non Christianâs combined with his off taste remarks towards minorities is literally vile and evil
Sources? Because the statistics Iâve seen are astronomical suicide rates in prisons across the country. 1 in 10 prisoners die by their own hand in the first week of being there. If you want to discuss the conditions of living and what lead them to take their own life we can but saying there are gun deaths in prisons is totally unfounded and not a matter of discussion because itâs not based on anything.
The literal minor? The ten year old? No not at that age. If itâs an adult or 16 year old thatâs a different conversation but a 10 year old does not have the capacity to make that decision. Rape is horrific and should never happen but I stand by parental authority over children. That goes both ways too though
So the child is too young to decide things for herself but old enough to go through pregnancy, an irreversible change in biology and hormones? Might as well allow arranged marriages with 10 year olds at that point lmao. And what about if the child protests against her parents? Are you then going to defend the parents for forcing their kid to remain pregnant? Youâre walking a very slippery slope I hope you realize
The child can take the steps to emancipate themselves. Youâre entitled to your opinion but I respect parents right to do what they think best for their child. I understand why forcing a child through pregnancy seems horrific but if like me you believe the child inside the womb is alive thereâs another person to think about. But I donât think this should be the primary standard for abortion as most children/fetuses arenât conceived in rape.
So theyâre too old to think for themselves but old enough to either be forced to carry a rapists child or forced to emancipate themselves AS A 10 YEAR OLD? Do you even hear yourself rn? And if you support allowing the child to emancipate and abort then whatâs your problem with abortions?
Look Iâm not trying to have a heated argument. You obviously care a lot about this subject and have strong opinions. Iâm a man so I can never fully comprehend the exact thing. I pray I never have to make any kind of decision. Iâm pro life but I also believe in human autonomy. I believe that becomes complex when children are involved. No child should ever have to grow up in order to make such a decision. Thatâs all I can say.