
“The N-word was historically used by white people during slavery, segregation, lynchings, and racism to degrade Black people. Because of that history, many Black people see it as a slur tied to oppression when non-Black people say it, Some Black communities later reclaimed the word — changing how it’s used among themselves. Reclaiming a slur is something many marginalized groups have done”
The difference is the second is calling someone a slur and the other is not? If your friend tells you “this stranger told me ‘fuck you’” are you going to be offended at your friend for repeating it. Obviously not, you’re offended by the person who directed the word at your friend
I agree that if someone like a CHILD said the first one, yes itd be different. But otherwise, you know the history of the word and even if some people arent offended (though i dont think white people count), some people are offended so why use it? Why spread unnecessary harm ya know?
The best example I can think of to describe the impact of the word is this. Imagine you have a daughter and she is kidnapped and tortured for years along with 12 other girls. Their attackers would call the girls “pig-lard.” After 17 years of searching you find her and the other girls and set them free. You quickly learn she doesn’t like that word. You tell others. Despite that the 13 girls still use the word among each other bcs of comfort/community relations.
Eventually someone who is not part of the 13 picks on your daughter. They say the word. Your daughter gets upset and retaliates. Is she wrong to get upset? You can be the judge of that. It’s very similar for black people, except the stuff happened to all of their great grandparents. Additionally, their parents and themselves often grew up with their bullies using the word. Additionally, they are still disadvantaged because of the bullies.
Yeah it is a word, but everyone knows what took place for that word to hold the weight that it does. Just because the people who use the word most often have allowed the meaning to evolve (for themselves), doesn’t mean that overrides the original reason they call themselves that to begin with. The lack in people’s ability to comprehend nuances frustrates me. But again, I’m not worried anymore. I’ve witnessed karma work in real time on these people, so it’s truly whatever atp.
Any race can say something but freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequences, doesn’t mean freedom to not be reprimanded. Also other races can reclaim their slur if they want to, the only other cultural designation that has are gypsies mind you. Gypsy is a slur if you aren’t Romani, you shouldn’t be saying it. Also if you have to say n-word to infer to said word that word will always be worse. Like wtf is wrong with some of you.
Yes, because my father is Romani German and my mother is black and it’s all to show you there is such a poor history with the n-word that you can’t even use it, you have to allude to it. I could use both if I wanted to, and I used one to show a point the whole world still uses the word Gypsy or Gyp and you don’t care when told not to but care when told not to say the n-word. This is not the crying games.
i was just asking bc i was going to say it’s contradictory if youre not romani. but idk why the fuck u responded like that 😭 and idk wtf u mean by “i only care when being told not to use the nword” i dont use ANY slurs. also since u were being so fucking weird in ur answer i bet ur the most white passing mixed person so u rlly shouldnt be using either. actual bum
Used only by the people who the word applies to and have reclaimed it. I have another comment floating somewhere around here how the term Gypsy is to this day is used still by many people. Mind you it’s a slur (I’m half) and Romani people do use to each other but people don’t get mad when we say not use it but get mad when black people say not to say the n-word. What’s the difference, why can people understand and respect not to say gypsy but don’t respect being told not say the n-word?
Unfortunately, in my experience, it’s the other way around. Generally I see people far more hesitant to say the n word than the g slur. Probably just our social circles I suppose, though it’s really only ever older relatives I have to worry about in that regard since I don’t make a habit of making friends with people who say slurs targeting groups outside their own (I’m a trans person & often hear f*g & tr***y thrown around in a lighthearted way among fellow trans friends, but that’s about it).-
-Regardless, I think the point of what I’m saying is that it depends on how the person was raised and what words ended up being stressed as more and less harmful, whether intentionally on accidentally over time. There are more factors that go into it I’m realizing, but I’m not the person to dissect that, at least not atm
Right so you see how it’s one thing when someone within that cultural and identity in your case the trans community says the word meant to be harmful versus another when someone on the outside. And they should be hesitant to say the n-word regardless how people feel there are tiers to hatred, the n-word carries a lot harsher historical denotation and connotation than something like Irish twins which is also a slur.
The r slur is one that feels rotten to the core imo, never seen it actually reclaimed as opposed to just being reweaponized. When used genuinely as reclamation and only by the people it’s targeted against though, I see no issue. Personally I prefer not to use slurs generally, though as I said I respect any marginalized people who choose to do so as reclamation
True, but the comparison made is to other phrases or words used by people only in the derogatory sense. Why compare a word that has that negative history and now has been reclaimed by that community to other phrases that have not been reclaimed and exist only as a disrespectful statement? Horrible comparison.
I think you need to review the term, “cherry picking,” just because something exists that challenges definitions or your understanding of what you previously held true doesn’t mean I cherry picked lol. Contingencies exist. Moving on, I’ve never heard of that term, but if it is derogatory then it’s bad. I’m not excusing slurs? Using cracker in a derogatory context is also bad. But since the word still exists to define other things we don’t go “c-word.” Additionally, it’s not regarded as profane.
Ofc there are, but they are socially shunned for doing so. Whether it be cursing out God or their mothers or yelling Heil Hitler to Jewish people. People who permit the use of or saying of slurs (especially in person) also face sometimes severe social consequences. Especially if the other group has expressed discomfort in the past. One group’s unwillingness to compromise doesn’t eradicate that basic fact
Yeah, I think you are right. The use by people within the community is the way it should be and them use it as they see fit. Weather is reclaiming or getting rid of. It was a bit naive to say other groups don’t use slurs meant to harm them with each other in different ways. Thanks for the insight
You guys can say the n-word all you want. However, when you meet the love of your life and she happens to be black, or you discover that your boss’s boss is black, or you have black people who support you, or you interact with people who are black in anyway (inevitably) who dislike the slur then you will face consequences for saying it in the past or currently.
If your parents thought about the bigger picture or cared about your ability to navigate society, they would teach you these basic principles. PR training wouldn’t even be necessary if parents established social navigation skills early on. The ability to be respectful, have integrity, and move with empathy not only makes you likable and respected, but also helps you in the long run with career and relationships. But again, people will learn these lessons in due time.
The most important thing I always go back to is the consideration of what will happen when we’re all dead and gone. Would you rather have people cursing your grave, or be fondly remembered as a good person. In the end, youthful entitlement towards doing whatever you want without consequences will be worthless. All that will really matter is how we impacted people while we were here. Personally, I’d like to be remembered with love, but whether others do or not is up to them.
I don’t know if you are dense or contextually incompetent, there is a slur for a particular people that we aren’t allowed to speak about, criticize; that call themselves the said chosen people that starts with a k and ends with e. Go to urban dictionary if you want to know the slur so damn bad, the fuck I’m not gonna say it.
Yeah sure, I believe that yet most instances of racial accosting that is videoed and published online is that of black people why is that. People have no problem racially devaluing black people on camera but you don’t hear people say it about Jewish people on camera as much. Because the backlash of accosting a Jewish person is always tenfold than that of a black person. They can hate Jews personally but no better than to get caught doing it on camera.
Oof so wasn’t saying shit about Israel mind you ashkenazi aren’t Semites at all either with European heritage and genealogy. Hmm disliking Israel doesn’t mean you dislike Jewish people weird you think so. Not all Jewish people are zionists or believe in Zionism they aren’t one and the same, okay okay glad we could understand that.
yeah no. i hear the same about both groups of people on disgusting levels. lmao yall remember on love island this past season when the biggest deal was made over a cast member using the nword but nowhere as close backlash to her fellow costar using the c slur… if anything, there is always the biggest uproar over using the nword over any other slur ppl literally get kicked out of school fym
No because I don’t care for reality tv unless it’s survivor, because really they are scripted behind the scenes. It’s not on Black people to make Asian people keep people accountable for the c slur they literally brushed it off because they want proximity to whiteness why who are the biggest criers of it’s just a word don’t be offended - White people. So in them aligning saying it’s just a word they can keep the appearance of being unbothered even it does hurt.
i was just giving an example, and no they didnt brush it off at all. they demanded for the women to be removed from the show and questioned the producers on why the girl wasnt kicked off for using that slur. plenty of slurs are not taken anywhere close to as serious as the nword. and we shouldnt be saying any of them not insinuating that its okay to use some slurs and not others
u literally just said u had no clue what i was talking about bc u only watch survivor…. the entire internet freaked out and made a big deal it was mostly asian ppl and no one else defending them. and here u are saying that theyte actually okay with it. yikes with that logic im sure black ppl are also okay w being called the nword since its “not a big deal”
I don’t watch love island I had no idea of where and when the girl said it came from or from what show, until I only saw three clips of creators asking for her removal and explain the denigration of the word but saw way more saying it was not a big deal. I have nowhere in any comment said I want to say slurs so I don’t understand how you jumped to the conclusion, did you hurt yourself with that big ass stretch.
And I didn’t, I saw more Asian creators or individuals say it wasn’t than those who did on my feed, your social media feed your business not mine. And nowhere did I say it’s not a big deal; in fact I said it’s not on Black People to make Asian People or any kind of people keep folks feet to the fire when they say a slur they should not be using. That flew over your head didn’t it.
you are parroting alt right talking points about jewish people. your own experience of bigotry does not prevent you from internalizing reactionary views and engaging in bigotry. this is an opportunity to reflect, and refine your political stance and rhetoric instead of shying from criticism
Except I have never once claimed to dislike or have a hatred to Jewish people. You called me anti-Semitic with no facts besides my comment about how you can’t criticize them. Which btw Palestinians can’t, or that the IDF has done abysmal things. I have also stated that Jewish people doesn’t mean Israel or Zionist cause they aren’t one and the same, like did you miss that sentence of mine or purposely ignoring cause you would rather place a moniker of ignorance on me than reflect yourself.
app glitched. yikyak being poorly designed doesn’t change the point. you started with the most outlandish version of your claim and then later modified it to pretend like you didn’t say what you said because it’s easier to defend the point you’re currently trying to make then to defend what you originally said and the core beliefs underlying what you said.