
You’re* I can tell by the way you type that you’re just some kid and you like being aggro to people on the internet bc it makes you feel good. I hope whatever’s going on at home maybe like your parents or some crazy swamp ass idk I hope it gets better. I pity you in your hatred. It must be exhausting to be a little sexual assault enjoying cunt all the time. I know your momma wouldn’t be proud
There are some laws that are questionably being violated (the only one I can think of being entering homes without a judicial warrant) and protesting is fine. But protests cannot interfere with federal investigations or arrests (which DO have judicial warrants). If laws are being violated there are legal processes that will take care of that. Political vigilantism is a lie being sold to people buy politicians chasing an agenda.
I hear that. But if we waited for elections to sort out civil rights black people would still have separate drinking fountains. Sometimes it takes civil disobedience and protests to affect change. I’m talking about first and fourth amendment rights. Even the second amendment now.
There’s a difference between civil disobedience (which I’m fine with) and obstruction. Regardless on if you like the tactics, if law enforcement tells you to do something, there is no point in resisting. They’re not going to let you go and it’s going to make things worse. If you were really simply protesting, you get to argue that in front of a judge. But protesting does not mean interfering with law enforcement operations. You don’t know what they’re there to do, most of them…
Under Biden, we had a catch and release policy. So agents would catch (those who could be caught), record their information, give them an asylum hearing date (often months or years away) and would release them into the US with no way to find them. And may of them would show to the hearing, but may would also not. So 12,000 per day for 365 days is over 4 million. For 4 years is well over 16.
You’re correct, but even with title 42 there were at least 6,000 crossings per day. In addition to that, it’s only used for those they could catch, there are so many that bpd can’t keep up and there are coyotes smuggling migrants in. Also, it was mainly used on the Mexican border but that’s not the only point of entry for mass crossings.
I did math with the pew data (I used the high estimate numbers so it could be closer to just over 5,000). And a lot of islands in the Caribbean use Puerto Rico. Cuba in particular sees its citizens as “tainted” when they touch any US soil and won’t take them back. So they hire coyotes to reach some of the smaller islands of Puerto Rico (that don’t have much of bpd presence) so they become stateless persons and force the us to grant them refugee status
Congress.gov estimated nearly 6.7 million illegal immigrants were brought in under Biden, along with nearly 2 million “got- aways” (people who evaded bpd agents) that’s 8.7 million estimated. Divide by 4 years in office, 365 days each and that’s nearly 6,000 on average. Peak (recorded) numbers say border crossings were up to 15,000 per day. I’m not sure how many “peak days” there are but if you assume a couple weeks per year, keep mostly average days, but the same number, you can adjust the min.
Sorry if that came across as insulting, I didn’t mean it that way. I had suspected you used ChatGPT and wanted to give you a chance to say so. Because the alternative would be to attempt to avoid actually citing the Heritage Foundation, which you simply cited as “congress.gov”. That’s borderline laundering. The only reason it’s on congress.gov is because it was given as testimony to congress. That doesn’t mean it’s true, or even the opinion of any member of congress
And the third page of what I assume is your source actually says that the 1.7M “gotaways” are *included* in the 6.7M number. You said “along with” and added the number. The number is simply 6.7M and still does not seem to include deportations, removals, or people who voluntarily returned
I don’t think that was the source, it was a bit older than that one. The numbers I got were mostly from pew research, fact checks I found on google and the mysterious “congress.gov” source that I can’t seem to find again- I apologise. I am also getting numbers from personal testimonies of what my relatives (who are ice agents) have told me, however these aren’t published sources
And from my understanding, they don’t have an accurate number for got-aways or people who have made it though without detection- the estimates I’ve heard, again from people, and seen online in fact checks is closer to 2 million and it was not included. I could be wrong, but from what I’ve been told that is the case
The numbers you’ve mentioned in this thread repeatedly contradict themselves. First you said 10-15M under Biden. Then you did the math yourself and said 8.7M. You said 12k was the peak, but now you’re saying 15k was the peak. You (or your family members or another source) seem to have also added “gotaways” as separate, inflating the number from 6.7M to 8.7M. Even conservative think tanks are saying the number is less than half of what you originally said
You’ll need to redo the math again too, because it seems like you’re using incorrect definitions. It seems like you looked at *encounters* instead of undocumented immigrants that resided in the US illegally (seeking asylum is not illegal!). Encounters *include* title 42 expulsions, of which there were 570k in FY23 alone, despite only being in effect for 7 months of that FY (source: Nationwide Enforcement Encounters: Title 8 Enforcement Actions and Title 42 Expulsions from CBP)
I did not- again, my sources for the big numbers is pew research which says that as of 2022 (or 2023 I can’t remember) there are an estimated 14 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the us. As for the encounters, they also count people coming in through legal points of entry applying the right way who were turned away (source bpd agent). I am looking exclusively at people who did not come from legal points of entry
If you want to use the encounters stats to estimate illegal residents, every year of his presidency besides 2H23 and 2024 needs to subtract title 8 and 42 expulsions. You also need to subtract asylum seekers and humanitarian visa applicants. You also need to subtract 1 (or more) for each repeat encounter because that’s double-counting (or more) someone who was already turned around and is now trying to re-enter. In Aug 2022, 22% of encounters were people who had a previous encounter within…
I have no clue what you mean by “static number”. What is the unit? Number of illegal immigrants residing in the US at a certain point in time? Number of unique immigrants who crossed illegally under the admin, subtracting deportations, expulsions, asylum seekers, humanitarian parole, and other programs?
Dude I’ll be so honest I’ve said my piece 😭 this is what I know from my own research and from talking to people in the field. My math is on an excel spreadsheet sheet- if I plugged something in wrong then that’s my bad, but I truly believe this information is accurate. I don’t feel like going back and explain what I already have and this conversation is exhausting. You are welcome to go back and reread stuff to figure it out yourself but I feel like this is getting nowhere
Yes, I am aware that’s what they are doing. Depriving US Citizens of their constitutional rights but they are certainly not law enforcement when it comes to United States Citizens. They are customs and immigration enforcement, period. They are acting outside of their lawful scope of authority, they don’t have the training to be doing what they are doing and quite honestly should have their weapons and immunity taken away. Deputizing and arming people that check IDs at borders, big mistake.
Arrests under Title 8 as Bovino loves to chant every opportunity he gets. They are there to enforce customs and immigration laws, period. They are not there to be arresting and executing people with cameras or deprive US citizens of their constitutional rights and due process by killing them on the spot. 1 month of training and they get a badge and gun - compared to real law enforcement like police, 6-12 months of training. These guys are thugs with guns and balaclava.
Dude… i dont know how to tell you this but they have more than 1 month of training. They are law enforcement and are able to respond to crimes committed in their presence. I know people in these fields and they go through extensive training. Law enforcement does not refer exclusively to police…
federal crimes. Filming in public is not a crime as there is no expectation to privacy in public and simply existing is not a crime. I know people in these fields too, both left and right and they’ve all said the same thing - they are crossing legal boundaries for their unlawful actions. Last week, near riot in Las Vegas with hundreds of people. Nobody died. Nobody killed. Some arrested but trained law enforcement deescalated and disbanded the crowds. Imagine that, no deaths