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Good morning all. Fuck ICE. That is all.
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Anonymous 2w

Honestly, the ice made me slip and fall this morning. Shit needs to go

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck the people giving this direction to ICE

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Anonymous 2w

Obama deported more people then Trump

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck Trump and all his micro 🍆 suckers

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Anonymous 2w

Specifically black ice, shit almost robbed me of my balance today, didn’t even provoke it, just cam out of nowhere.

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Anonymous 2w

For everybody that supports ICE or anything from this administration, know that 2500+ people here disagree with you.

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Anonymous 2w

crazy amount of ignorance in this comment section. murdering someone in broad daylight is inexcusable. “don’t interfere then?”, you’re stupid actually.

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck ice and trump and his government . Fuck senator Mike Flood and Pete Ricketts who stand for this crap hope they all rot in hell they need to be voted out.

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Anonymous 2w

Liberal sissys

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Anonymous 2w

It’s Greenland I swear?

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Anonymous 2w

Nah they lowkirk chill tho

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Anonymous 2w

Yeah fuck that shit. I slipped walking to my Prius.

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Anonymous 2w

Ya I love the Mexican food here, fuck the ice. Nice weather we’re having this week

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Anonymous 2w

ICE = pinche tortas

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Anonymous 2w

Yes

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Anonymous 2w

How ice is currently handling situations is extreme, but without immigration enforcement, this would be even more of a shit show country. Enforcement is necessary.

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Anonymous 2w

“Fuck Ice”

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck you

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Anonymous 2w

in case ur wondering deporting ILLEGALS is their job. if u get in the way of ICE and disrupting, obviously something bad can happen. they have the authority of it.

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck MN

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Anonymous 2w

“Jarvis, I’m low on karma”

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck all the illegal criminals in this country

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Anonymous 2w

Maybe don’t interfere with law enforcement

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Anonymous 2w

Me after hearing that

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Anonymous 2w

Bunch of dumbasses

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Anonymous 2w

Fuck the illegal criminal scum who come into our country

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Anonymous 2w

ICE is doing us all a service, its a nasty service, but its a good one lol

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Anonymous 2w

I’m a citizen so I belong here dipshit

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Anonymous 2w

They’re doing gods work.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

…what?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

In case you’re in a complete cave, this isn’t about just that. Turning a blind eye to MN are you?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

ICE is terrible…and there are people above them telling them to act this way and do these things. I’m saying Fuck those people, too.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Ah ok wasn’t sure what you were saying, my mistake

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Anonymous 2w

People bring up Obama a bunch as though ICE was the same under both admins. ICE was better trained and fully prioritized criminals rather than every illegal immigrant in blue states.

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Anonymous 2w

Your an incompetent bootlicker and I truly hope you wake up to the real world before it’s to late

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 2w

Tom(Thomas) Homan

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Anonymous 2w

This man had an entire clip loaded into him for stopping an ice agent from abusing fleeing women.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

When Obama was president was Ice in the streets murdering innocent ppl?? No they weren’t. Do research before commenting fucking idiot

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

That’s because when you look at the numbers, yall look at Obamas 8 years and trumps 1 year, which btw, trump has deported more people per year than Obama.

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 2w

So funny I’m literally on the floor dying u fucking king of comedy

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 2w

Is the same thing citizens have said to ICE…they still get taken😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

Wow your such a silly goose

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

Is exactly what I think of #20. A silly silly silly little goose

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

So true. We’ve really needed people to spread fear and shit on the constitution.

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 2w

Bro is not religious at all

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Anonymous 2w

it was both criminals and people who had just crossed the border. that isn’t in defense of him, but it is important to note how Trump’s ICE is targeting people and families who have been here for many years & has done so in primarily blue states.

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 2w

Jesus would call you a Pharisee.

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Anonymous 2w

Your hatred of Obama and Biden is just getting sad. Move on and let go you fucking boot licker. Trump doesn’t care about you! 😂

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Anonymous 2w

trump would sell u for half a big mac. He is inept and incompetent and a LIAR. He can’t do shit and he’s gonna croak in lik 2-4 months

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Something you’ll never get to touch

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Anonymous 2w

I heard they were all criminals. Thats what i seen on the tv

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 2w

Your really rude

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 2w

Jarvis im low on iq

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Not true buddy quit spready lies

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

How can I be good when it rips families apart? When it kills people? Kills citizens? We as white people are the immigrants. This was never our land to take

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 2w

Amen🙏

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 2w

Judgment day will come and you will be sorry.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

bro you said you believed shit you “heard on the TV” so you shouldn’t be acting like you know what’s true 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Oh yeah ask your mom

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

middle school ass comeback

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

God loves everyone including immigrants. God sees your hatred too

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

You can fine my come on the back of your mom

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

you’ve upgraded to high school freshman ass comeback

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 2w

Lmao sorry bout that

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Unconsentually, my mom doesn’t like being touched my immature little boys with swamp ass

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Anonymous 2w

Is that why your mom divorced your dad ?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

No they had different issues. My mom and dad handled it like mature adults unlike you and your middle school ass comebacks

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Oops sorry about that I apologize I was being immature

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Apologize to yourself, you’re embarrassing.

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Well I take it back how rude learn some manners sheesh

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Okay Mr “I fondled your mom without her consent”

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Your god dam right

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

:3

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

You’re* I can tell by the way you type that you’re just some kid and you like being aggro to people on the internet bc it makes you feel good. I hope whatever’s going on at home maybe like your parents or some crazy swamp ass idk I hope it gets better. I pity you in your hatred. It must be exhausting to be a little sexual assault enjoying cunt all the time. I know your momma wouldn’t be proud

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

I’m not reading all that twin

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Explain it in Minecraft terms

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Dude can’t read but he’s got a lot to say

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

It’s a joke not a dick don’t take it too hard twin 😭✌️

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

He deported people like gang members and people involved in sex trafficking rings not innocent people off the side of the road and kids from schools and icu nurses.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Yea cuz everyone thinks the guy who jokes about sexual assault is funny and relatable

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

Heard that from your family? Or watching only Fox News? Here’s some advice. Talk to more people than the ones that look and think like you. Grow up

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Mf just said he can’t read 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

You’re. Dumbass

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Which part am I wrong about?

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

No way you are getting upset over a your mom joke lil bro 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Ehh try again that was a lame response

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Trumps term isn’t over yet

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Not upset you’re just being weird and I’m calling you out on it

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 2w

He rage baited tf out of you

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Anonymous 2w

i really love how everyone is downvoting this specific guy. HEY DUDE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED BTW, literally no one agrees with you or the current administration. if you would like to debate this, i welcome you to either continue that conversation here or dm me privately!

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Anonymous replying to -> #44 2w

What about the legal criminals??

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Anonymous replying to -> #44 2w

i mean fuck all (unjustified) criminals. but not all illegal immigrants are criminals. sometimes they are your friends, family, or peers. don’t make exceptions for just yourself, but give others empathy as well.

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 2w

Fuck the criminal scum in the White House

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 2w

immigrant here. stay mad brotein shake ✌️🥸#gotureducation

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 2w

Wha type of immigrant? Undocumented/illegal immigrant who skipped the line? Or documented legal immigrant who waited patiently

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

wouldnt you like to know weather boy 🫵😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Psssst they’re not law enforcement

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Anonymous replying to -> #36 2w

Your drive to own the libs really clouds your judgment and makes you look really stupid and pathetic

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

If they were, they would be called police 🥸

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 2w

Lmao 14 out there fighting for his life it’s like he likes all the negative attention. Must really get his fascist micro 🍆 going

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

But Obama was a fucking Nazi when he did it too nothing like Trump and his goons

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Than* 😬

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Anonymous replying to -> #46 2w

Ur proud of being from a shithole lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #45 2w

No I just support legal immigration like people waiting in the line that there suppose too instead of skipping the queue in front of legal immigrants

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 2w

Police aren’t the only law enforcement 🤦‍♀️ pls tell me your joking

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 2w

They are federal law enforcement, same with bpd, fbi, and so on

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 2w

It is also illegal to interfere with federal law enforcement investigations, it’s called obstruction

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

The problem with your original point is that they (ICE) aren’t following the law, nor are their leaders acting in the best interest of the US. So to not interfere would be morally wrong.

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Let’s pretend there’s no other context and take this at face value. The tactics being used to achieve the goals of deporting people break our constitutional rights. Even if one supports immigration enforcement, there are right and wrong ways to do it. These are the wrong ways.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

There are some laws that are questionably being violated (the only one I can think of being entering homes without a judicial warrant) and protesting is fine. But protests cannot interfere with federal investigations or arrests (which DO have judicial warrants). If laws are being violated there are legal processes that will take care of that. Political vigilantism is a lie being sold to people buy politicians chasing an agenda.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

That’s not your job to dictate. The courts will sort this out. If you have a problem with the law itself then you win that in elections

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

And I’m really not sure which constitutional rights you’re referring to?

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

I hear that. But if we waited for elections to sort out civil rights black people would still have separate drinking fountains. Sometimes it takes civil disobedience and protests to affect change. I’m talking about first and fourth amendment rights. Even the second amendment now.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

There’s a difference between civil disobedience (which I’m fine with) and obstruction. Regardless on if you like the tactics, if law enforcement tells you to do something, there is no point in resisting. They’re not going to let you go and it’s going to make things worse. If you were really simply protesting, you get to argue that in front of a judge. But protesting does not mean interfering with law enforcement operations. You don’t know what they’re there to do, most of them…

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

(I know some personally) are picking up people who have committed crimes against children. Are these the people you’re defending?

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Sometimes they get it wrong, errors are part of human action, but they are trying to do the right thing to keep their family, and yours safe

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

I think it’s wrong to make such generalising statements

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

As for the 1st amendment right, that protects you in court- so you won’t be jailed. However you can be detained and arrested for obstruction. I’m not sure where you’re getting 2nd from. I agree with you on 4th though and I think SCOTUS will clarify that soon

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Anonymous replying to -> #39 2w

“Illegal” is kinda in the name man 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 2w

They’re literally denying people from receiving communion

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

God also believes in the rule of law and borders…

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Anonymous replying to -> #44 2w

Yeah fuck Donald Trump

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

“10-15 million” under Biden is patently absurd when the estimate of the TOTAL number of illegal immigrants living in the US is 11 million, and most came before 2010

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Just out of curiosity where are you getting those numbers?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Because the numbers I’m seeing from pew Research Center are saying as of 2023 (so more than that now) the estimated number is 14 million?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

And peak border crossing times can see around 12,000 crossing per DAY

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Oops you’re right, I misread Pew. It’s 14M. The source for number before 2010 is DHS. https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/illegal/population-estimates

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

12,000 can cross per day. That doesn’t mean they’re all released into the country. How many were turned around shortly after?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Under Biden, we had a catch and release policy. So agents would catch (those who could be caught), record their information, give them an asylum hearing date (often months or years away) and would release them into the US with no way to find them. And may of them would show to the hearing, but may would also not. So 12,000 per day for 365 days is over 4 million. For 4 years is well over 16.

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

For 3 years under Biden, we had Title 42. They were encountering people at the border and literally turning them around.

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Sorry, 2.5. The rest of my point still stands

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

You’re correct, but even with title 42 there were at least 6,000 crossings per day. In addition to that, it’s only used for those they could catch, there are so many that bpd can’t keep up and there are coyotes smuggling migrants in. Also, it was mainly used on the Mexican border but that’s not the only point of entry for mass crossings.

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Source for 6k? And what other point of entry is being used for mass crossings?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

I did math with the pew data (I used the high estimate numbers so it could be closer to just over 5,000). And a lot of islands in the Caribbean use Puerto Rico. Cuba in particular sees its citizens as “tainted” when they touch any US soil and won’t take them back. So they hire coyotes to reach some of the smaller islands of Puerto Rico (that don’t have much of bpd presence) so they become stateless persons and force the us to grant them refugee status

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

What math did you exactly do?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Estimated number of illegal migrants total divided by the average total number of days, then adjusted for the maximum estimated peak entry (15,000) and adjusting lower numbers from there

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Can you walk me through the exact numbers you used?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

from the bottom to the top fuck them all

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Anonymous replying to -> aetherii 2w

ai bot ass profile

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Congress.gov estimated nearly 6.7 million illegal immigrants were brought in under Biden, along with nearly 2 million “got- aways” (people who evaded bpd agents) that’s 8.7 million estimated. Divide by 4 years in office, 365 days each and that’s nearly 6,000 on average. Peak (recorded) numbers say border crossings were up to 15,000 per day. I’m not sure how many “peak days” there are but if you assume a couple weeks per year, keep mostly average days, but the same number, you can adjust the min.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

This isn’t about Obama though. This is about Ice killing innocent people under the Trump administration

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Anonymous replying to -> #36 2w

Say that shit again when ice puts a bullet hole in one of your family members.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Even JD Vance disagrees with that. Obama counted a deportation as turning ppl away at the border, artificially inflating the numbers but if you actually cared about anything other than owning the libs then you would know the difference and why it matters

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Anonymous replying to -> urgothmommy 2w

ICE AKA INCREDIBLE COCK EATERS

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

This is our country. Your suicidal empathy for browns is insane. They hate you, your race, your culture, your country. Get all of them the fuck out. We’re full and dont need them here.

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Anonymous 2w

I would insult you but you’re one of the few people here who’s actually honest about your racism

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Also nice “we as white people” lol, youre jewish.

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

I genuinely can't imagine going about my daily life thinking that I'm the victim of every situation. Yall will say this and then say that racism isn't around anymore

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

Biggest snowflake I've ever seen holy

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

Can you act like a man for once in your life 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> green_crayon 2w

no one thinks immigration processes should be ignored bruh 😭 but ICE isn’t enforcing it properly whatsoever

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Anonymous replying to -> sunset_ribbon63 2w

me when I’m brainwashed:

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Anonymous replying to -> sunset_ribbon63 2w

Is shooting a nurse that's just standing there also their job? Ever since the quota was implemented ICE has become a domestic terror organization

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Anonymous replying to -> #63 2w

Dude if i was president i would put you in a concentration camp lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

You lack the credentials dumb ahh and you ain’t popular

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

That’s a terrible thing to say.

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

I’m not Jewish? I grew up Christian and beelined my way out of that. And yea this land was never for us (white people) to take.

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Then give it back

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

Well I agree. It is not done morally or properly but it is necessary.

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Anonymous replying to -> green_crayon 2w

the current methods are not necessary whatsoever but an immigration process is necessary and should be enforced, but again not like this at all

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

I agree!! This!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

you realize that that was for trump’s first term right? this term, not so much.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

and trump is touting most deported people ever how are you gonna argue that in the first place😂absolute bootlickery

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Nice story dude. Go cry about it with ur brown friends, im sure they’ll care. Not me tho lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #63 2w

so let’s talk about the nurse who was raped and murder by an illegal? he was shot because of carrying a firearm

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Anonymous replying to -> sunset_ribbon63 2w

you mean the one he legally owned, the one never aimed or even held, the one that was disarmed immediately and long before he was shot multiple times while defenseless?

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Anonymous replying to -> sunset_ribbon63 2w

you’re disgusting if you watched the video and genuinely believe he deserved it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

he did it himself… ice is doing their job.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

ur also disgusting if u think illegals raping and murdering should stay in this country

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Anonymous replying to -> sunset_ribbon63 2w

I don’t think anyone said that, but they’re not only targeting criminals

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Anonymous replying to -> #21 2w

they literally are… protestors are getting in their way trying to be violent…

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

That would be great but we have a fuck ass government

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

You don’t make sense

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

ICE/CBP is not law enforcement. They are immigration/customs officers they handed guns and badges to but like Bovino loves to say, they enforce their “Title 8 mission” which does not apply to american citizens.

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Anonymous replying to -> #68 2w

Your wrong. They don’t just deport they also arrest US Citizens when they break federal law. They are law enforcement

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Anonymous replying to -> #68 2w

They are law enforcement and have the ability to make arrests

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Can you link the “congress.gov” source or at least say whether it’s the Congressional Research Service or some committee/member of Congress’ office?

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

8.7M is a far cry from the 10-15M you mentioned earlier, so you just disproved your own point. And that’s assuming that the 2M gotaways are not included in the 6.7M number you gave.

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

My guy congress.gov is the source. A simple google search will solve that I’m not going on a scavenger hunt to find this for you

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

8.7 is the static number, Biden also did deportations so this is referring to the cycling of illegal immigrants in and out of the us borders

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Scavenger hunt? You had the source yesterday, it should be in your history, no? I’m just asking about the specifics of the source document, like who wrote it

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Bru congress.gov 😭 I have like 500 tabs open

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Good thing most browsers let you search your tabs then. Do you remember the context of the source at all, like the author(s)? Or did you just use ChatGPT?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Just to clarify: I found your source. After seeing it, I’m curious as to whether you actually read the source and know who wrote it, or if you let a large language model conflate definitions and then give you the wrong numbers

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Ohh sweet resorting to insults now, love it. Yes I read it dude but I gotta say I don’t in fact remember who wrote it because I’m not a computer

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

I will also say that I have grown up around ice and bpd my whole life, so consider that I may have some first hand knowledge from hearing people talk about it that’s hard to find online

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Sorry if that came across as insulting, I didn’t mean it that way. I had suspected you used ChatGPT and wanted to give you a chance to say so. Because the alternative would be to attempt to avoid actually citing the Heritage Foundation, which you simply cited as “congress.gov”. That’s borderline laundering. The only reason it’s on congress.gov is because it was given as testimony to congress. That doesn’t mean it’s true, or even the opinion of any member of congress

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Congress.gov also has Michael Cohen’s testimony but you wouldn’t cite something he said as simply “congress.gov”

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

And the third page of what I assume is your source actually says that the 1.7M “gotaways” are *included* in the 6.7M number. You said “along with” and added the number. The number is simply 6.7M and still does not seem to include deportations, removals, or people who voluntarily returned

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

I don’t think that was the source, it was a bit older than that one. The numbers I got were mostly from pew research, fact checks I found on google and the mysterious “congress.gov” source that I can’t seem to find again- I apologise. I am also getting numbers from personal testimonies of what my relatives (who are ice agents) have told me, however these aren’t published sources

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

And from my understanding, they don’t have an accurate number for got-aways or people who have made it though without detection- the estimates I’ve heard, again from people, and seen online in fact checks is closer to 2 million and it was not included. I could be wrong, but from what I’ve been told that is the case

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

The numbers you’ve mentioned in this thread repeatedly contradict themselves. First you said 10-15M under Biden. Then you did the math yourself and said 8.7M. You said 12k was the peak, but now you’re saying 15k was the peak. You (or your family members or another source) seem to have also added “gotaways” as separate, inflating the number from 6.7M to 8.7M. Even conservative think tanks are saying the number is less than half of what you originally said

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Or- hear me out, I was clarifying with people and doing math and checking numbers. And my first numbers were from a post which I was trying to prove a general point 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

You’ll need to redo the math again too, because it seems like you’re using incorrect definitions. It seems like you looked at *encounters* instead of undocumented immigrants that resided in the US illegally (seeking asylum is not illegal!). Encounters *include* title 42 expulsions, of which there were 570k in FY23 alone, despite only being in effect for 7 months of that FY (source: Nationwide Enforcement Encounters: Title 8 Enforcement Actions and Title 42 Expulsions from CBP)

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

I did not- again, my sources for the big numbers is pew research which says that as of 2022 (or 2023 I can’t remember) there are an estimated 14 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the us. As for the encounters, they also count people coming in through legal points of entry applying the right way who were turned away (source bpd agent). I am looking exclusively at people who did not come from legal points of entry

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

If you want to use the encounters stats to estimate illegal residents, every year of his presidency besides 2H23 and 2024 needs to subtract title 8 and 42 expulsions. You also need to subtract asylum seekers and humanitarian visa applicants. You also need to subtract 1 (or more) for each repeat encounter because that’s double-counting (or more) someone who was already turned around and is now trying to re-enter. In Aug 2022, 22% of encounters were people who had a previous encounter within…

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

…the past year

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Bru if you reread some of my previous comments you will see that I was not using encounters as my numbers. And, even without using encounters, factoring Biden’s deportations into my math

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Where did you factor in the deportations when you walked me through the math?

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

I have no clue what you mean by “static number”. What is the unit? Number of illegal immigrants residing in the US at a certain point in time? Number of unique immigrants who crossed illegally under the admin, subtracting deportations, expulsions, asylum seekers, humanitarian parole, and other programs?

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

Dude I’ll be so honest I’ve said my piece 😭 this is what I know from my own research and from talking to people in the field. My math is on an excel spreadsheet sheet- if I plugged something in wrong then that’s my bad, but I truly believe this information is accurate. I don’t feel like going back and explain what I already have and this conversation is exhausting. You are welcome to go back and reread stuff to figure it out yourself but I feel like this is getting nowhere

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

You’re very smart though and you’re doing a great job!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Yes, I am aware that’s what they are doing. Depriving US Citizens of their constitutional rights but they are certainly not law enforcement when it comes to United States Citizens. They are customs and immigration enforcement, period. They are acting outside of their lawful scope of authority, they don’t have the training to be doing what they are doing and quite honestly should have their weapons and immunity taken away. Deputizing and arming people that check IDs at borders, big mistake.

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Anonymous replying to -> #68 2w

No as law enforcement they are able to respond to crime committed in their presence- it’s in their scope- look it up

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

Arrests under Title 8 as Bovino loves to chant every opportunity he gets. They are there to enforce customs and immigration laws, period. They are not there to be arresting and executing people with cameras or deprive US citizens of their constitutional rights and due process by killing them on the spot. 1 month of training and they get a badge and gun - compared to real law enforcement like police, 6-12 months of training. These guys are thugs with guns and balaclava.

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Anonymous replying to -> #68 2w

Dude… i dont know how to tell you this but they have more than 1 month of training. They are law enforcement and are able to respond to crimes committed in their presence. I know people in these fields and they go through extensive training. Law enforcement does not refer exclusively to police…

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

They can respond only to federal crimes committed in their presence unless there’s an agreement with local law enforcement

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Anonymous replying to -> #53 2w

correct but that’s not what they are doing. Standing in the street filming them is a constitutionally protected activity. Legal permit holder, second amendment protected carry. We have seen it time and time again. They are not riot police.

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Anonymous replying to -> #47 2w

federal crimes. Filming in public is not a crime as there is no expectation to privacy in public and simply existing is not a crime. I know people in these fields too, both left and right and they’ve all said the same thing - they are crossing legal boundaries for their unlawful actions. Last week, near riot in Las Vegas with hundreds of people. Nobody died. Nobody killed. Some arrested but trained law enforcement deescalated and disbanded the crowds. Imagine that, no deaths

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