Obviously I'm not talking about certain situations like disabilities. I don't think I should put an asterisk on every topic with disclaimers when it should be obvious those are exceptions. Also, volunteer to do the housework? we are adults. Mature adults can clean our place and buy the food by ourselves. Most people don’t have mansions. You think most single adults have their house filled to the brim of filth? No. I'm sorry but that's not a good excuse to not seem like a bum.

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Anonymous OP 1w

it’s not obvious, ableism is rampant and if you don’t acknowledge the existence of certain exceptions then no one has any way of knowing whether you’re considering them I see that you’ve deliberately omitted “the majority of” from when I said “volunteering to take responsibility for the majority of the housework”. your response isn’t relevant to what I actually said

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Anonymous OP 1w

i.e. single people who live alone aren’t doing more than one person’s worth of housework lmao, use your brain please

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Anonymous #2 1w

Again, what do you think single people do? Do you think they’re not capable of doing most housework? Do you think most single people’s houses are in disarray because they haven’t done housework? It’s not omitting, it’s just you’re making a poor excuse not to mention you don’t explain what housework is.

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’re really going wayyyy out of your way to pretend to not understand that “one person taking on the majority of housework for a two-person household” is significantly more labor than “one person doing their own housework as a one-person household”, huh

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Anonymous OP 1w

bro really said “[jordan peterson voice] well what do you mean when you say ‘housework’”

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Anonymous #2 1w

Yeah when there’s two people in a household you split the chores. It’s not hard. Again, another bad excuse. The laundry, the food, the dust, and other household chores double but it’s not hard to split both chores. If you can’t find a way to split the chores, that’s a you problem.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Not to mention these chores don’t take enough time to justify being a stay at home wife unlike being a stay at home mother.

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’re continuing to yap in circles around what I actually said. again, the bottom line is that the majority of stay-at-home girlfriends / wives voluntarily take on more than their fair share of domestic labor, and plenty of working men are content with this arrangement. nobody’s forcing you into that relationship configuration, so calm down

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m only talking about the dating scene. If that’s what they agreed to, then that’s what they agreed to. In the dating scene, if that’s what some women want then I can only view them the same way men who live leech of their gfs do, bums. I’m only talking about my perspective

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Anonymous OP 1w

and tbh if you don’t think keeping a multi-person household clean, stocked, organized & functional takes a lot of time day-to-day then that would indicate that you’re doing a sloppy low-effort job at the domestic tasks you’re thinking of. which is unsurprising, boys generally are raised with much lower expectations around that kind of thing, as evidenced by the fact that women statistically end up having to do more than 50% of household labor in M/F couples even when they Are employed

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Anonymous OP 1w

okay? your participation in the dating scene doesn’t force you into that relationship dynamic either. I tried to explain to you the info that was apparently missing from your perspective, but it seems like you prefer making angry posts about women you don’t know rather than learning from other people and/or minding your own business

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Anonymous OP 1w

if a man takes on the majority of domestic labor while his girlfriend occupies the breadwinner role, and they’re both content with that, then that man isn’t “leeching” either

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Anonymous #2 1w

lol I have my own place so I know very well how long it takes. I like having my entire place clean and tidy so whenever I’m working from home I can concentrate. I clean around twice a week with most chores on Saturday morning and ending around Saturday afternoon, including groceries and other various things if needed. That’s all on top of working out. That’s why my perspective has changed. I’ve always been an organized and clean individual even when I was living with my parents.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Whose mad? ‘cause I’m not. Im only explaining my perspective. And why would I mind my business? It’s an anonymous opinion, you could use that argument for whatever opinions you have have on whatever topics.

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Anonymous OP 1w

cool, but nothing you said really contradicts the likelihood that you aren’t doing a very thorough job. more importantly than that, you’re once again talking about how long it takes to clean up after, shop for and plan around the needs of *one person*. most stay-at-home partners are doing literally twice the work in many of those areas, not just looking after their own individual needs

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Anonymous OP 1w

like I said, you’re putting a lot of effort into clinging to judgment rather than simply trying to consider perspectives outside of your own. I’ll be disengaging now, because at this point all you’re doing is prompting me to keep repeating myself

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