Anonymous #2 5w

Damn I really lost some 😔

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Anonymous #4 5w

Like why are conservatives so against thinking deeply about things and questioning what they’re told and why those beliefs exist…the main difference I’ve noticed is that conservatives just don’t like thinking about stuff

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Anonymous #4 5w

lol that’s why they’re called conservatives they want to conserve traditional beliefs not put them into question

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Anonymous #3 5w

I mean why r they unwilling to analyze their own beliefs like wouldn’t they want to feel like their positions are well supported

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Anonymous #5 5w

You want to defend illegal immigrants, but the fact of the matter is, they came in illegally. So yes, we do think critically and logically about our beliefs. We don’t just say, “oh I feel this way so it’s true” or use dehumanizing language of a baby for a justification to kill a human. Your position lacks logical context in any way at all, and is purely focused on emotion.

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Anonymous #5 5w

The comment I always use is this: when people like you say, “I feel like x so I can do x” without any repercussions, I respond with, “if I feel like killing your whole family, does it make it okay?” In your eyes, that’s a no, which shows the nasty hypocrisy. Your feelings and actions are only okay if they benefit you. But if someone else does something that will harm you, all of a sudden it’s wrong? Selfishness and emotion vs. a logical response. Trust me, we think the same about you lol

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Anonymous #4 5w

They are! Give me a question you want me to answer or something you think is a dilemma and I will with evidence

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Anonymous #4 5w

Give me an example of a time you had like this. Specifically, what did you say that was true, because I love thinking about these things and I’m more than happy to! Actually yeah, I do like hearing other people’s beliefs, so I would greatly appreciate it!

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Anonymous #5 5w

All your takes were 100% valid (and I agree on the gun control one) except the first one. I’m confused, is this one about human development in the womb, or evolution? Cells are biological material, and anything from a single cell to trillions of cells can qualify as life. As for whether cells can be spontaneously created from inorganic material like what existed on an early earth, the Miller-Urey experiment showed that organic compounds (not life, just yet) can be spontaneously created from…

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Anonymous #3 5w

It’s about abortion. Sorry, I should’ve clarified that one. My apologies! Evolution I think is different conversation, and can get pretty difficult, but if you want to, I’m willing to engage in that conversation also. What I’m talking about is the liberal perspective on what makes a human a human. I hope that clarifies? Sorry haha!

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Anonymous #3 5w

…inorganic compounds, which is promising evidence. Prions and viruses also self-replicate without qualifying as life, and viruses even “evolve” as medicine changes—this you can observe every year when you get a new flu shot. As a Christian, I have no problem believing in something we haven’t observed directly in a lab (the last time proof of God came to earth they crucified Him) and I also don’t think God contradicts evolution or even the Big Bang Theory.

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Anonymous #3 5w

In today’s society, you have to READ. Not just the Bible. Although that’s great too

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Anonymous #3 5w

As for evolution, what are the chances that all the right conditions just happened to be all fine-tuned to the exact thing for our survival? And you’re right, organic compounds does not equal life, so how did life come from those, given that you’re right? I think the biggest issue with the evolution theory and creation of life is the consciousness and free will. Evolution doesn’t explain that. I would like to hear your thoughts on that!

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Anonymous #3 5w

Correct, I totally agree! I think the Big Bang is representative of Genesis, when he says “let there be light”. And yes, I agree with the virus example, but even to get something that complex out of chance is absurd. I definitely believe that God had his hand on the evolution process if that’s what you mean, but I don’t think it was by chance.

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Anonymous #3 5w

I’ve done a ton of reading. We both seem well educated and well read, which I really appreciate!

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Anonymous #5 5w

I subscribe to determinism, so while I believe in free will (if I didn’t I wouldn’t be a Christian) I also believe that God knew everything that would happen since the beginning of time, including the choices we make. (Ask me how that doesn’t contradict if you’re curious). The odds of anything existing in our universe the way they are, let alone life and free will are astonishing—if “random,” or perhaps divinely forsought events could create the Earth with just the right conditions for life, …

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Anonymous #3 5w

So yes, I do agree, but none of this happened by random chance. The cosmological constants can’t have happened by random chance. Life as we know it can’t have happened by random chance. I do hope you believe in the creation accounts, in terms of God creating humans. The soul and consciousness is such a tricky topic, but can definitely prove to be powerful in a lot of conversations

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Anonymous #3 5w

…organic compound—> self replicating organic compound —> group of self replicating organic compounds —> a single unit (cell) with multiple parts that work together to replicate the whole cell isn’t that much of a jump. Especially if you’re God.

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Anonymous #3 5w

Correct. I do appreciate that clarification! I thought at first you were saying it’s random lol and I’m like huh? But yes, God can do anything. And I know it doesn’t contradict. Just because God knows what choices we make, he has given us free will in order to make our own choices, instead of forcing us to love and follow Him. Otherwise what kind of love would that be? Love is never out of force.

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Anonymous #3 5w

To get deeper into the free will aspect, if God can foresee anything, who’s to say he didn’t set off the Big Bang, scattering an unfathomable number of particles in any direction to make earth, and then life, and then for one specific branch of life to evolve free will?

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Anonymous #5 5w

Sorry for some reason I’m not seeing your responses until after I leave and refresh I didn’t mean to metaphorically talk over you

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Anonymous #3 5w

I think we agree on a lot here, but the abortion topic is where I could provide and argument towards the progressive side. If you want to talk about that

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Anonymous #3 5w

It’s okay, same thing is happening to me too lol

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Anonymous #3 5w

Correct! That’s what I’m saying. “Let there be light” can be seen as the Big Bang. But free will cannot be something that develops because of evolution. Science is focused on the material world, and always has. Free will immaterial, a long with the consciousness. There are things that are possible, but also things that are probable. Probability of something can be determine by examining the facts and consistency of things around us.

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Anonymous #5 5w

On the off-chance that you’re a woman will you marry me

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Anonymous #3 5w

My bad my bad my bad

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Anonymous #3 5w

Haha! lol I appreciate that! I’m a guy lol

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Anonymous #5 5w

😔. You sound super chill bro 😎

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Anonymous #5 5w

When it comes to policy the biggest example I can think of is global warming? Like science has clearly shown that ice caps are melting and this is leading to a slew of other environmental dangers like ocean acidification and the dying of coral reefs; and Trump is actively going back on climate accords and pushing for more fossil fuels which will only cause harm to the ecosystem, like why wouldn’t you want to help make it so the planet doesn’t die

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Anonymous #4 5w

Another example is gender roles; it happens a lot to me where I’ll bring up that it’s arbitrary and unfair that men and women are expected to dress and act a certain way based on how they are born, and this leads to tangible harm in real life when people either face discrimination and bully for presenting/dressing in a way that doesn’t align with their gender, or when women have trouble advancing in the workforce because the men in their field treat them in a more patronizing way

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Anonymous #4 5w

But whenever I say that it’s unfair that women are, say, expected to do most of the work caring for kids, the more conservative or moderate people I know are just like “uhh but that’s just the way the world is” like just because the world is that way doesn’t mean it’s good…?

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Anonymous #4 5w

Another example is when people are homophobic. I have a Christian conservative friend who became really homophobic after leaning more into her religion because “it’s a sin,” but i don’t think it makes sense to label gay relationships as bad when

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Anonymous #4 5w

A) it doesn’t cause anyone harm for a couple to be gay. In fact, it’s a net positive, because the gay couple can be happy together and in love, and why isn’t that a good thing for two people to be happy? B) pushing a homophobic viewpoint actively harms lgbtq youth because their parents may disown or abuse them if they feel they are gay, or try and make them repress their sexuality and feel immense guilt

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Anonymous #4 5w

So why would you choose to hold a harmful belief just because a 2000 year old book written by fellow humans might hold it too?

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Anonymous #4 5w

Christianity should never be used to justify homophobia. Jesus taught love, not hate. Yes, it’s widely interpreted that homosexuality is sinful, but so is any form of lust or sex outside of marriage. Romans 2:1 says that passing judgement on another because of their sin is a sin itself. WE ARE ALL SINNERS. This is why Jesus was sent to die our death on the cross so that we might live forever. Your friend has a right to disagree with homosexuality, but not to use the name of Jesus to spread hate.

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