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Saban in year 2 with the greatest college football program of all time vs Cignetti in year 2 with the worst college football program of all time. This is the difference between being an elite recruiter and being an elite coach.
9 upvotes, 12 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in College Football. "Saban in year 2 with the greatest college football program of all time vs Cignetti in year 2 with the worst college football program of all time. This is the difference between being an elite recruiter and being an elite coach."
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Anonymous 2w

also too, saban has also semi-successfully coached in the nfl (4 years as browns DC leading them to an nfl-best defense in his final year before returning to college), and 9-7 in a single year at miami. not eye popping, but objectively more impressive than anything a current fbs coach can say they’ve achieved due to it being professional football.

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Anonymous 2w

Saban in year 1 vs Cignetti in year 1.

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Anonymous 2w

decent argument. cig has been head coaching college for 15 years and has 5 conference titles (1 d2, 3 fcs, 1 fbs) to his belt. by year 15 in college, saban had 4 (1 mac, 3 sec), and a bcs national title. also, cignetti was an alabama WR coach in 07 and 08, the years you’re poking fun of.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Too bad he wasn’t the head coach back then. Saban could get good results - as long as he had the most talented team on the field. Not so much without talent.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

.469 win percentage as a head coach and an average defensive rank of 10th as an assistant coach is nothing to sneeze at for sure.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

i don’t know how else to say this, but a college coach is supposed to field a talented team, because it’s up to them to develop those players. i’m not gonna listen to the argument that developing players makes your results invalid. saban didn’t spend off seasons recruiting 15+ developed players from other fbs programs to produce for the next season, as you can in the modern day.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

where are you getting .469 from? saban was an nfl head coach for a year and 9/16 = 56%

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

belichick was the browns head coach, Saban was defensive coordinator

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

wait i might be tripping, i’m not sure if he coached one or two years in miami. either way, objectively more difficult to coach an nfl team and that’s experience that has to count

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Bill Belichick is currently an fbs coach. He’s done a lot more than a 9-7 season, and was the head coach of that Browns team.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

besides him 😂 it’s too obvious for me to say

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Fr. Especially considering that Indiana has maybe 1 returning starter who didn’t transfer in? It’s different eras you can just move so much faster turning a program around now than you could in 2008

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